Is my short career over?

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  1. Is my short career over?

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      No, get back in the saddle and ride!
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      No, but you need more education!
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      No, volunteer for Free Health Clinic!
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      No, get your experience in Somalia!
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      Yes, just retire already!

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ladies and gentlemen, i am having great difficulty deciding if my nascent career is, or should be, over. please be kind enough to tell me what you think. i am an rn with an as who recently graduated nursing school with distinction and a gpa of 3.9. i passed my nclex on the first try, in 1.5 hours, with 75 questions. i am acls certified. but, in school, they told me "nurses eat their young", and i have come to believe it's true. i'm not young; i was 58 years old at graduation, but young in the profession.

within a month of passing my boards, i found employment with a dialysis clinic, as a dialysis nurse and team leader. after a training period, they promised i would soon be charge for my shift, assess patients, pass meds, and supervise four techs.

unfortunately, they had my subordinates train me. i was thrown into the lion's den. my subordinates were techs with only 6 weeks of informal training from the company, but had many years of valuable experience. they seemed anxious to let me know that while i would be their team leader, they had no respect for me because of my lack of experience, and that they really ran the show. it was more like hazing than training. i would see them give a patient 250 ml of ns, go for a lunch break, and fail to chart it. when i suggested they needed to chart it before they left, they'd say, "you aren't the nurse yet, and you probably won't last long enough to ever be the nurse." i refrained from reminding them that while i might not have been "the" nurse, i was indeed a nurse, and tried to get along with them, thinking i could address this when i became charge.

they kept me busy with scut work, emptying the infectious waste trash and cleaning up blood off the floor, while they treated the patients. after a month of this, i complained to the clinic manager that i wasn't going to become proficient in treating dialysis patients by emptying everybody's trash cans. i needed to actually perform dialysis on patients. then the clinic manager put a stop to the cinderella treatment, and insisted they give me some hands on experience.

each day i had a different tech preceptor. everyone had their own way of doing things. each day my preceptor would complain that the way yesterday's preceptor told me to do things was wrong, and insist i must do it their way instead. i learned the principals of dialysis, the appropriate responses to dialysis related emergencies, how to access a "button hole", how to access a fistula, and became proficient at catheter care.

it was a crazy way to set it up, but they also had these tech preceptors evaluating my performance. even though i tried to be pleasant, they really didn't like me and i think they just resented having a newbie come in as their supervisor. their evaluations were less than flattering, insofar as they complained i was "slow in the performance of tasks". as my 3 month anniversary came near, the clinic manager told me that i was "too slow."

i explained that i had still not had much experience and that i would get faster with time. i also asked, "do you want me to be fast, or do you want me to be careful?" she said what she wanted both, immediately, and otherwise maybe i should resign. so, i resigned, but very gracefully, saying i was sorry it didn't seem to be working out, and that i had great admiration for the job she did, and the way she did it. i live in a small town, so burning bridges isn't a good idea. besides i did admire her, she was capable and had been kind to me. i did frankly tell her she should not be dismayed if my coworkers spoke badly of me, because they also spoke badly of her. the rest of the staff smiled in her face while making cruel remarks about her behind her back. she said she knew this. i also mentioned that it was probably an ill-conceived company policy to be trained by subordinates. she agreed, wished me well, and we parted on good terms.

within a week i was working again, this time at a community clinic with a low level of acuity. i was treating a broad spectrum of patients, pediatrics, geriatrics, diabetes clinic, surgical clinic, as well as women's health and pre-natal patients. in my first month there i learned how to perform many poc lab tests such as rapid strep, flu tests, rsv tests, urinalysis, pregnancy tests, a1c and accu checks. i learned how to assist in minor surgeries and pelvic exams and do prenatal non stress tests, ecgs and learned the pediatric immunization schedule.

everything seemed to be going along fine until, in my second month, i made my first ever med error. i had a baby who had turned 6 months old the day before he came to the clinic. his mother brought him in because she wanted him to have an influenza immunization. our "standing order" protocol dictated that if he were less than 6 months old he should get a divided dose, 2.5 ml now, and another 2.5 ml in a month. if he were more than 6 months old, he should, instead, have gotten one single 5 ml dose. as it happened i was distracted by people bustling around me, my preceptor talking to me, reaching around me to get into the med press, the unit clerk coming and taking over my computer while i was trying to look at the computer's calculation of his age, etc. i was also dehydrated, tired and rushed. i miscalculated the baby's age, thinking him one day younger than 6 months instead of one day older than 6 months. i gave him the 2.5 ml dose that would have been appropriate if he had come in two days earlier. the child was under dosed. i had only been there two months, and i still had a preceptor watching me, but she didn't notice anything out of the way, either, until it was too late.

well, anyone who has ever made a med error knows the whirlwind of reports that follow. i made out all the reports. i called the baby's mother at home and explained to her that i had made a mistake, but that it should not harm the child, except insofar as he would need to come back for the second dose. she was very kind. my preceptor dressed me down and wasn't satisfied until she reduced me to tears.

the don was livid and demanded to know why this happened. i explained that i had not been given a break, was fatigued, dehydrated, and the clinic was busy with people bustling about, and that a computer was not available to me to look up the child's exact age. she asked what could be done to prevent recurrences of this in the future. i suggested that the nurses should be given a 10 minute break in the morning and another in the afternoon so that we could refresh our minds, use the bathroom, and have something to drink, since drinks were not allowed on the floor. i also suggested that nurses drawing meds should be given a "quiet zone" around their computer for the few minutes they were drawing them. she said, "well, you're not going to get that! so forget it!" "and", the don added, "you are still on probation, you don't get to make mistakes! i'd better not hear of anything else going wrong, or you're out!"

the don also dressed down my preceptor, saying that she should have caught this error before it occurred. my preceptor thereafter became very hypercritical and no longer seemed willing to train me, actually ridiculing me whenever i asked for information. i apologized to all profusely and hoped i would be forgiven, but i felt i was never forgiven. very shortly after, i was so miserable, i resigned again.

i then decided that i needed a hysterectomy, before i got another job, because i had a prolapse and had been waiting for a hysterectomy since before nursing school, never having enough time off to do it. so i took that opportunity. my recovery was complicated by cellulitis of the cuff, and my doctor didn't clear me to go back to work for 4 months. but i didn't look for another job just yet, because my daughter's wedding, scheduled to take place on the other side of the continent, would be happening soon. i thought a new employer would never give me time off to go to her wedding, so i waited 3 more months. very soon after that, my brother in law, (of 43 years), was diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer with mets, and i flew across the country to help my sister care for him until died, which occurred just last week.

now i find that i have been out of nursing school for 21 months, and have only worked a total of 6 months, at two different jobs! i spent 3 months waiting for nclex, 3 months working dialysis, 3 months working the clinic, and 11 months being unemployed, reticent, and trying to fathom my future. i'm very discouraged and actually afraid to go back to nursing. i also don't know how i can be smooth in an interview when i have failed so miserably at both jobs. i was slow at one and incompetent at the other.

einstein said, "anybody who has never made a mistake has never tried to do anything new." that's true, but maybe i'm not fit for nursing, even though i enjoyed scholastic achievement. nursing school teaches you how to be a good student, but only experience teaches you how to be a good nurse.

just last week a headhunter called and asked me if i would consider going back to the same dialysis clinic, this time as the clinic manager, since my former clinic manager had resigned. i thought about it for only 30 seconds and said, "no." i remember how the nurses and techs who worked for that clinic manager spoke evil of her behind her back. when she was not in earshot they called her a fat, ugly, old *****. i ventured to ask them how that was relevant to her job. they said, "well, she doesn't do her job very well either." actually i thought she did pretty well, i did admire her. i can imagine how those techs and nurses would treat me, who they viewed as slow, inexperienced and incompetent. they would tear me apart. and they'd be impossible to manage. it would be mutiny.

if i did go back to nursing, i wouldn't know how to smooth all this into a productive interview. and i don't know what to say in interview about the long hiatus. maybe my patients are better off having a different nurse. i have no self-confidence about it. is there anything else i can do with my degree and license? would an insurance company take me as a case manager? or do they want a lot of experience?

on the other hand, i have enough money and there is a free clinic that operates solely with volunteer staff in my town. maybe they would more patiently precept me, since my labor would be free, and maybe i could get a year's experience there, and become a more astute nurse.

any suggestions on how i might salvage my career? i do have very nice letters of reference from my clinical instructers in nursing school, as well as some of the mds and rns that i worked with at the community clinic. i'm sorry this was so long. thank you very much for your time reading this, and for your consideration of this problem.

Ruby, You are the first to comment on the med error and I appreciate that because it's what worries me most. Explanations were offered because DON demanded an explanation of how that could have happened. Yes, I get it that med errors are dangerous and mine are my responsibility. I do take it so seriously that I've been afraid to go back to work. I'm immobilized by that to this day, and I am considering seeking some alternate path that doesn't involve direct patient care. Are there opportunities for nurses in the insurance industry or medical records coding or other related fields? I'm interested in any suggestions.

Its no secret that back stabbing, bickering and overall lack of respect for their co-workers exists among nurses and other healthcare folks. I prefer the term "Bully" to "eating their young". I've watched it for many years before I became a nurse and I've seen it ever since. The new nurse is a prime target for a bully that comes in the form of a nurse, tech, Doc whatever. The newbie is very vulnerable and at the mercy of their co-workers to educate them and show them the good the bad and the ugly of the job. I think it stinks.... but it is how the industry is and may always be. Why is it if a new nurse has an opinion of how to better their work environment it is automatically assumed they have nothing of value to offer and should eat crow and know their place? Some people are just creeps. I advocate and care for my patients and I do not tolerate personal or professional disrespect.

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
its no secret that back stabbing, bickering and overall lack of respect for their co-workers exists among nurses and other healthcare folks. i prefer the term "bully" to "eating their young". i've watched it for many years before i became a nurse and i've seen it ever since. the new nurse is a prime target for a bully that comes in the form of a nurse, tech, doc whatever. the newbie is very vulnerable and at the mercy of their co-workers to educate them and show them the good the bad and the ugly of the job. i think it stinks.... but it is how the industry is and may always be. why is it if a new nurse has an opinion of how to better their work environment it is automatically assumed they have nothing of value to offer and should eat crow and know their place? some people are just creeps. i advocate and care for my patients and i do not tolerate personal or professional disrespect.

i've been a nurse most of my life, so if there is an industry where newbies are encouraged to come in and teach everyone how to "better their work environment", i apologize in advance. new nurses -- or new entry-level employees of most flavors, i imagine, aren't in a position to educate everyone else on how the job should function. time enough for that when you've learned how to be a nurse and had some time to figure out how things actually do work. most experienced employees (in most industries, i imagine) have little tolerance for newbies who want to show everyone else how it ought to be done. of course, as i mentioned, i've always been a nurse so if anyone knows of an industry where brand new, inexperienced entry level employees have input in remodelling the workplace let me know.

Its no secret that back stabbing, bickering and overall lack of respect for their co-workers exists among nurses and other healthcare folks. I prefer the term "Bully" to "eating their young". I've watched it for many years before I became a nurse and I've seen it ever since. The new nurse is a prime target for a bully that comes in the form of a nurse, tech, Doc whatever. The newbie is very vulnerable and at the mercy of their co-workers to educate them and show them the good the bad and the ugly of the job. I think it stinks.... but it is how the industry is and may always be. Why is it if a new nurse has an opinion of how to better their work environment it is automatically assumed they have nothing of value to offer and should eat crow and know their place? Some people are just creeps. I advocate and care for my patients and I do not tolerate personal or professional disrespect.

I think that this is really not an effective way for this dialogue to go on this thread. The OP has told her story and has been quite receptive to input from other nurses. I give her a lot of credit for that.

I think Ruby Vee made an excellent point in that people are not interested in what you can teach them as how open you are to learning from them.

Many times people come out of nursing school quite excited about their accomplishments, as they should be, and then hit a brick wall when they get out into the real world and realize that no one cares about the past, they want to know what you can do to make the present and the future of the team go better.

I hope that the OP can move on from this, and doesn't just give up. As far as suggestions for ways to get more experience, one place i can think of is the Red Cross, they do a lot of medical services from basic CPR education to disaster relief, and you can meet and network with some of the crustiest of the crusty old bats in nursing. It is a volunteer thing, so much more informal and friendly than in a job environment.

Also, you could look into clinics for the homeless, immunization clinics, or wellness clinics -- which are paying PRN positions with agencies like Maxim, et. al, that can be a lot of fun.

Not A Hat, I'm so glad you found your niche too! Thanks for your suggestions about Free Clinic, camps, private duty. You think a refresher course might help? I will speak to former instructors about that. I don't really see how it would help though, they did tell me not to make med errors the last time around. Maybe I should get my BA, it's only 18 months more. TYVM for the story of your experiences and your suggestions and insights.

Specializes in Acute Care, Rehab, Palliative.

The fault is their's not yours.You are a nurse.You should be receiving training and feedback from other nurses.Being trained by techs is totally inappropriate and unprofessional.You need to find another job.

Why would you spend a year working your butt off for free.

Thank you Loriangel for saying so. I rather thought so myself. I can and did learn a lot from the techs, but think I should have had a nurse preceptor to teach me the parts of the job exclusive to nursing, such as the nurses role in emergency procedures, properly assessing the patients before during and after dialysis, pt teaching, med passes and team management.

In dialysis you have to learn the tech role first, so in my clinic you oriented with the techs for a few weeks to learn their role. Then you train with an RN to learn the nurse part. But you cannot function as a nurse until you know the basics, which include putting the patients on and taking them off and there is no one better to learn that from than the techs. So in some instances it is appropriate to train with the techs.

Actually, luvmy3grls, that sounds familier. You described the situation better than I and in fewer words. I'm just trying to figure out if I dare try again. Some people here have made some excellent suggestions, and I don't just mean those who agreed with me. There is always a kernal of truth in every viewpoint, so I shall consider all that everyone has said. Thank you for your time and input. BTW, Congratulations on your 3 daughters. I have 3 girls too! Mine are all grown up. Daughters grow up to be your very best friends.

In dialysis you have to learn the tech role first, so in my clinic you oriented with the techs for a few weeks to learn their role. Then you train with an RN to learn the nurse part. But you cannot function as a nurse until you know the basics, which include putting the patients on and taking them off and there is no one better to learn that from than the techs. So in some instances it is appropriate to train with the techs.

I totally get that and cannot dispute it. The techs did teach me a lot, for instance they taught me to stock the carts, string the machines, canulate the patients, start dialysis, understand the various machine alarms, rinse back and blood return, and improved on my catheter care techniques. However I think the techs took advantage of me for the first month by only giving me clean up work. Under normal functioning everyone in the clinic empties their own medical waste can and trash can and cleans up their own spills, but I was the general cleaning lady for 4 weeks of precious time. Really, I only needed to be shown once how they wanted clean up done, then just keeping up after my own patients would have been sufficient to make it rote. What I needed was some time with the patients, and the dialysis machines. And patients crashed with frightening frequency. I needed a chance to observe how the nurse handled it, and discuss it with her later. After wasting the first 4 weeks, when my 3 months was up, of course I was still slow, I'd only been doing it for 2 months.

Thank you Caliotter for those suggestions!

There will be people like those techs (the ones that took advantage) everywhere. Next time you'll be able to handle it better. When you are new you have to take a certain amount of crap (because you don't know that they are dumping it on you), but once you get your footing and find your way you set em straight. It is normal to be slow out of training for 6 months to a year. You need to be slow and careful to start. Speed comes with repetition. Don't let people rush you, that is how mistakes are made.

Every job you have will teach you something. Now you know what you do not want to do, and you are better prepared for what comes next. Everyone makes med errors when they are new. Everyone. It is how you handle it that sets your apart. You own it, take steps to fix it, and you learn from it.

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