I wanted to explain what happened to me... - page 9

Hey everyone... I want to thank everyone for the prayers. I'm sorry I haven't been able to explain why I needed them and what I meant by saying I was in trouble, but I have recovered enough... Read More

  1. by   GatorRN
    Wow, this is not what I was hoping to hear when I came to check how your meeting went. I'm sooo sorry to hear things worked out this way for you. I can't believe your DON actually let you go over this...unreal. It may not seem like it now but in the long run she done you a favor. You don't need to work for somebody like that with no empathy for your situation, and so unappreciative and unsupportive. You will find another job that you like even better with ppl that will appreciate your dedication and hard work. I know you will, I have faith!!

    My mother used to tell me, "everything happens for a reason, you may not understand why at the time, but you will later." I have most certainly found this to be very true! She was a wise woman, God rest her soul. When one door closes another one opens.

    As far as giving a reason for why you were terminated, that's a tricky one. Legally they can only say the dates that you worked there and if they would rehire you. But we all know other information can and is given. The perspective employer can choose not to hire you without giving you an explanation as to why they chose not to, thus not disclosing what they were told by your previous employer.

    Assuming your prev employer may say more than they should, I would consider saying that you were accused of being impaired at work, but have a drug screening that verifies that you were not. You do have a copy of that test, don't you? You could explain that you worked anite shift, drove out of state to visit a sick relative, (not planning on staying as long as you did) and went in for another nite shift with no sleep because you hated to call off. This is the truth, and shows your dedication as well. I don't know that I'd bring up the Ambien. You could go on to explain that your administrators best friend/co-worker wanted your job and they took an easy out. Others here may disagree with this, but I think it's what I would say if I were in your place. I'm sure you'll come up with something you're comfortable with.

    As far as the title loan you asked about, DON'T do it!! My bf was in a tough spot yrs ago and took out a title loan, what a huge mistake. The interest rates were out of this world. He could never get out of it for paying so much interest, along with his reg car pmt. He was a couple days late in making his payment and they repo'd his jeep!! It was perfectly legal, he'd paid them a fortune and lost his jeep to boot! Title loans have since been outlawed in Fl. I'm sure you'll come up with other ways to get some money. Amygooch had some awesome suggestions, I was really impressed with her post.

    Take this wkend and do what you need to do to deal with this awful situation. Try to put it behind you as best you can. Then come Monday, put a smile on your face, walk into your interview confident, with your head held high and sell yourself. Everything will work out, it always does somehow. You're in my thoughts and prayers. Good Luck at your interview.
  2. by   chelli73
    Quote from amygooch
    Dear Lori,

    I am sorry I am so late joining this thread. I just discovered it today. I am so sorry that this has happened to you. It breaks my heart that you are having to go thru this. But, please dont be embarrassed or ashamed for being fired. I have been fired many times. I was fired from one place 3 differant times. Yup! That is right! 3 times just from 1 place!! I think that is a record! (It was before I was in nursing...I sold cars, but I was really bad at it, so they kept firing me. But, I what can I say? I am alot of fun to be around so they missed me and kept hiring me back!!! LOL! But, they kept telling me, YOU GOTTA find another occupation! You stink at this!!! You know we only hired you back b/c we like you!!)

    I was also fired from 1 job in nursing b/c my supervisor did NOT like me. So, I know the hurt, shame and embarrassment you are feeling. Let's deal with that first! What helped me more than any kind words of friends, was KNOWING that my coworkers knew my side of things and heard it from me. Whether they believed me or not, was up to them, but I was going to be damned if I didnt at least make them hear my side!! So, since I felt to awkward going in there, or even calling, I wrote each one a letter and told them that I felt I needed to explain, and needed that for closure for myself. I told them that I didnt expect or need for them to respond, but I just needed to know that I got my side heard. Then, I wrote it all out to each of them and mailed it. It was cathartic for me. Others may disagree, or think this is crazy, but I needed to do that. And you know what? Every single person called me and offered me words of hope and encouragement and some offered me references!! I personally got more from that than I could have gotten from years of therapy! But, maybe that is just me!

    The important thing is for you to deal with this in your own way. My way worked for me, but it might not be right for you. Do what feels right for you.

    Moving on, I know that your finances are extremely tight right now. Lord knows I have been there too! Here is some practical advice on dealing with this. First of all, you should absoltutely file for unemployment! I have no doubt you will get it, and I dont even think you will have to fight for it!

    Secondly, you need to call the Administrator, and explain what happened and tell them that you have an outstanding record there and you made one mistake, and you feel it would only be fair to give you severence pay. Ask for a months pay. If they say no, ask for 2 weeks pay. Ask for any unpaid vacation and sick days you acrued to be paid. All they can say is no, and if they do, you are no worse off then you are now. But, they might say yes! (It wouldnt hurt to remember, that you worked there for a LONG time and saw lots of things that the state board and patients families might not be real happy about! If necessary, I would remind him/her of this.

    While your at it, why not ask for a letter of recomendation? After all, you DO have a great record, and you ARE a good nurse! It would not hurt them to write something on your behalf saying so, and I wouldnt be surpised at all if they agree to, inspite of everything. Besides, once again, if they say no, you havent lost anything by asking!!

    After completing the above, call the minister of your church and explain your situation. Ask the church to help you. If you do not attend anywhere, and you have family members who do, have them call their churches, and ask for help for help. You will be helped! My father is a minister, and our church helps people in these situations quite frequently. It is all confindential, and usually they will offer to pay several bills, or the rent, or both, or give you a check for a certain amount. But you will be helped. There is no need to be embarrassed to ask! This is what it is for!!! No one minds helping someone like you! We mind helping deadbeat, welfare moms who wont work and stay home making baby after baby! We mind helping the lazy, the drunks, and all of those. ( But, I digress!) NO ONE minds helping YOU! Everyone WANTS to help you!!

    If you do not get enough this way to pay your bills, ask your family for help. If they have it, they will help you. But, you must pay it back as quickly as you can!!

    If you have a 401K, borrow from it if you need to pay bills the next few months. I know you plan to be employed soon, but do the paperwork now, just in case! (And no, I dont think you will be unemployed for long, but we dont want to take any chances, do we?!!)

    Then, if there are any food pantries in your area, go and get groceries. They dont mind helping you either! That is what these places are for!! USe the resources that you have! IF you feel embarrassed, go to one out of town where no one knows you, but do go!! If you feel guilty, then just promise yourself that you will pay back whatever you use when you start workiing again, plus a little more. And do it!

    Also, dont forget to hint to friends with gardens about how much you LOVE home grown veggies, and would kill for any of their extras. I guarentee you they will load you down with whatever they have. I am a Southerner like you, and I grow a garden, and I can assure you that ALL Southerners who grow gardens are like this!! We are happy to share with friends!

    For more cash now, raise the deducables on your home owners and auto insurance. (You can always lower them again after you are employed again!) Then ask your ins agent, to refund you the differance in the overpayment for the last few months you have paid, if you paid 3-6m at a time)

    If you have a car pmt, call the bank, and explain dire necessity to them and ask to be able to pay interest only for the next month or two. (If you have good credit, most will happily oblige you for 1 month at least, and possibly 2).

    Cancel the cable or satellite if you dont have a contract with them. I know this one is HARD to do, but times are hard and this is money you need!! To compensate for the missing channels, go to the public library and rent movies there. You can rent 10 at a time at most. So can your husband and kids! (If they arent with you, you can do it for them if you take their library cards!) So with a family of 4, that means you can rent 40 movies a week!! That ought to give you plenty to watch!! But, if there are still certain shows you HAVE to see, then ask a friend to tape it for you! If there is a movie you want to see that your library doesnt have, it can borrow it from another library. All for free!!

    Ready for your next assignment yet?? Go to the area beauty shops and ask if you can have the magazines they plan to throw away when the new months arrive. Most will give them gladly, as they are pretty heavy in the trash. Then, enjoy reading them yourself while you lick your wounds. When you are reading to join the world again, take these mags to a care facility you hope to work in, and give them to the residents to enjoy. There are several reasons to do this: 1) It will give you free reading material. 2) It will give the residents free reading material. 3) You will be very noticable carrying a HUGE stack of mags into a nursing home, giving them away. Someone from the staff is sure to talk to you, which will get you talking about how you love old people and miss them, since you used to see them all the time where you used to work, etc. Then they will tell you how short staffed they are and how you should apply there.... blah, blah, blah!!! Then you have someone there who is SURE to tell someone how nice you are and how you brought the residents all those mags, etc!!! Doubt this will work? I got a job this very way!!

    Round up all the clothes that you have that are nice, but no longer fit, and take them to a consignment shop. This will bring in some more extra money while money is tight!

    For prescription meds you take regularly (like anti-depressants, birth control pills or whatever applies to you), ask your Dr for free samples. This one should be obvious to most of us here, but sometimes the obvious gets overlooked!

    If an unexpected expense comes up that you have to have, such as a plumber for a clogged pipe or a car repair, try to seek out an independant business instead of a chain. This way you can negotiate the price instead of paying list. Also, you may be able to barter services by doing a trade out. For example, you might see if they have an elderly parent that you could sit with for X number of hours following surgery or hospitlization. Most people would kill to have an experianced nurse watch over a family member in a time of need. If he cant use your services in your chosen field, perhaps he would be willing to fix your car in exchange for your cleaning his house? OR, Maybe you could set up a website for him in exchanbe for the repair? The point is to think outside the box and be creative! Dont forget you have many skills!!

    You are fortunate that this is one of the cheapest months of the year for the electric bill, since most people dont run the A/C or the heat in Sept or the Oct. However, on those cool nights, use the electric blanket instead of turning on the heat. It will save several dollars on your bill!!

    The biggest electricity waster is the hot water heater. Put a timer on it for 30 min before the 1st person gets up, and for it to quit heating at whatever time the last person goes to bed. No need to pay for it to heat all night when no one will be using it!! This will save 30% on the cost of running it, which will translate to a huge chunk on your bill!!

    Also, make use of the crock pot instead of the stove. Why? 1) It costs about 2% of what a stove does to operate. 2) It is quick and easy...you can put in meats frozen, and have them cooked by dinner! 3) They make great Soups/Stews. These are some of the least expensive meals, and also some of the healthiest. 4) You can put it on in the am, go job hunting, and come home to a hot dinner, which will make you less likely to order a pizza just b/c you are tired!

    To save more on the electric bill, line dry clothes instead of tossing in the dryer. Dont have a clothes line? Layer shower curtain rods over your tub. For example, mine has the outside rod, (which holds the decorative shower curtain.) Then, behind that, is the rod that holds the shower curtain liner. Then, behind THAT, there is another rod. This one is used to hang towels that have been used to dry off after showers. (Each family member has a different color so, they dont get confused, and the towels get washed once a week.) This saves on water, detergent, wear and tear on the towels (incl. shrinking) and the irritation of seeing towels everywhere, not to mention the labor of the laundry!! But best of all, it is all hidden behind the shower curtain!! I also use this rod to drip dry undies, stockings, lingerie, etc. But, then I have ANOTHER rod behind that one. (This makes 4 rods, for anyone who is still following this!) The last rod is used to hang clothes to dry when it is too cold or rainy to use the clothesline, and also for things that cant be dried in the dryer (such as comforters that are too big!). By the way, in case you are wondering, those mini "hair claw" things are what I use as "clothes pins" for the shower rods.

    We have 3 bathrooms, and I have this same set up in 2 of them. It is quite handy!! (The other bath has a garden, whirlpool tub, so I couldnt do it in there )

    I have TONS more, but I dont want to overload you (or anyone else here.) If you want to hear any more, let me know, and I will post them or pm them to you. I just want to help. I really do.

    I am not saying that all of these tips are for you. Or that any of this advice is for you. I just hope that some of it helps somehow. I have told you all of this b/c I know what it is like to be worried about money, and as upset as you are about being fired, I am sure the money is a hugs stresser. That is why I wanted to focus on telling you the tips that got me thru.

    I am sure many of you think I am crazy to go to some of these frugal extremes, but I actually honest to goodness dont mind them now! I thought I would DIE when I had to cancel the satellite, but you know what? We actually have become closer as a family and as a couple, since we dont have it! We still have the library videos when we want to zone out, but once I got employed again, I didnt miss this enough to add it back! (Which was HUGE for me!!!) It is funny, but I actually ENJOY trying to save money now!

    I hope some of my tips have helped you. (As you can see, I am worried about you.! :icon_hug: I wish I lived nearby so I could come over with chocolate, Margarita mix, a massusse, and good comedy to cheer you up!) But, unfortunately my cyber hugs will have to do! But please pm me anytime if I can help!

    Lots of hugs,
    Amy Gooch
    Dear Lori,
    May God Bless you and your family during this crisis. This poster is truly the most INFORMATIVE of them all!!!! I have gone through a similiar crisis (fired in March, running out of UE), and I am saving the above post for myself and my family! You will get through this, please be strong...
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    LORD, You know what troubles my heart today. The clamor all around me distracts me and makes it difficult to find a moment of rest from the turmoil. Even now, in a quiet place, my mind races, trying to find a solution. Father, I seek Your perfect peace. You promise that I can cast all my cares on You and rest in You. Help me to let go of the things I can do nothing to change. Give me wisdom to move forward where I can make a difference. Thank You, Lord, for Your promise to give me PEACE. Amen.--"Light For My Path-for Nurses" (Hake RN & Boone 2004)
  3. by   CHATSDALE
    lori i have filed for unemployment but it has been several months and i am just for a appeal hearing next wednesday
    go and try to find something monday morning, you will have to address your last employment but you can put the best spin on it---
    a] attendence reccord
    b] was not ccused of illegal drugs
    [this was confirmed per drug test]
    c] no medical mistake
    d] good annual reviews

    best of luck with what the future holds...i will tell you that sometimes the worst things can open the doors to a beautiful future...

    and by the way print out that post by AMY GOOCH she seems like a smart lady and a really nice one to think out some many good suggestions
  4. by   CseMgr1
    Quote from earle58
    i was wrongfully terminated after working sev'l yrs for a facility, model employment history, but i had a strong case involving whistleblowing.
    my atty required a small retainer fee and did the rest on contingency.
    just a few prospective employers i shared it with, still perceived me as a potential problem employee, in spite of a favorable outcome. leslie
    So you were blacklisted, huh?

    Just goes to show that today's employees have NO recourse...even if they were fired for doing the right thing, as you were.

    Makes me sick. :angryfire
  5. by   scarta105
    I hope this question doesn't upset anyone...not ment to, anyway, but how can a person confuse an ambien with a bp pill? Ambien is a tiny, thin, oblong tablet that doesn't look like any other pill I've ever seen. The shape alone should have a been clue.

    I take many pills each day: hormones, 2 different bp meds, antidepressant, and on occasion will take an ambien for sleep. I've also passed hundreds of drugs during the course of my employment as a nurse, and I've learned to recognize many just by their shape, color, and markings, although I always double and triple check what I am giving. I'm so use to utilizing the 5-rights of medicaiton administration, that I find myself doing the same with my husband and children.

    Lori, you can't continue to beat yourself up over this. The most important thing is that, although this could have been a recipe for disaster, you did no harm to your patients, and that you have learned a very valuable lesson that you can now pass on to other nurses. "If something like this can happen to me, it can certainly happen to anyone. So be careful, utilize the '5-rights' of medication administration even when taking your own medication."

    As far as another job, I've always believed that honesty is the best policy. I don't know that I would just tell anyone everything, but if asked "why were you terminated from your previous job?" Maybe it would be in your interest to tell them what happened, how it happened, and what you have learned to keep it from happening again.

    I have discovered during the 52 years that I have been on this earth, that most people are basically good. That they have an innate need to want to reach out to others, and that we feel good when we feel that we are able to help/teach someone who has/knows less than we do. Admit that we are human, that we have made mistakes, that we have learned from our mistakes and have a greater understanding of what we can do in the future to avoid doing the same mistake again, and that we need their help to move on from our mistake to become a better nurse and a better person.

    Pray about it. "God, grant me the serentiy to accept the things I cannot change. The courage to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to know the difference."

    You can't do a thing to change what has already happened, so ask God for the peace to accept it. Ask Him to give you the courage to go on with your life and the strength to face those who may have humiliated you, and finally ask Him for the wisdom to make those choices that He wants for your life. I DO BELIEVE that God has a place for you in the nursing profession. It just wasn't at the last place you worked. Accept this as His will and ask him to lead you to where HE wants you to be. Just remember, once you place these burdens into God's hands, let Him worry about them and don't try to take them back by worrying about them yourself. That's like telling God that you don't trust that he can handle it.

    I will pray that you find what God wants for your life and not what you want for yourself, and that God gives you a peace that surpasses all understanding.
  6. by   Elisheva
    I would tell the truth to a potential employer. Chances are they will find out anyway. And if they do, the fact that you were not forthcoming about the incident suggests that you had reason to hid it.

    If it were an accident, I would say exactly what happened. Will it make it harder for you to find another job if you do? Probably. For me, I'd rather find a job in another profession entirely than to lie or evade the issue. I'd always be waiting for the other shoe to drop anyway.

    But that's just me.
  7. by   texas_lvn
    Quote from kat911
    . I trust you have reevaluated your behaviors that lead you to take stimulants in order to make it through a shift and on top of that have to take a med to mediate the side effects. .


    How many nurses are addicted to their caffinated sodas and coffee, ect. I can not believe this statement wsa made. Careless of how it happened, I am sure Lori will be more careful in the future. We should be supporting her and not judging her right now.


    Lori, I am sorry about your job loss. I understand feeling like you need to be at that place for your residents. Hon, there is nothing you can do now. They are grateful for what you did and I promise will remember your love forever. I realize that most people think nurses are co-dependant people. I know I am, and to an extent there is nothing wrong with that. But hon, you did your job, you made a daily difference in your residents lifes, now it is time to make a daily difference in someone else's life. (((((LORI))))))
    In HIm, Texas
  8. by   texas_lvn
    Quote from Elisheva
    I owe Lori a debt of gratitude. I am returning to nursing soon after a 10 year absence. There was a time when I would have done exactly what Lori did - I would have felt responsible to go to work no matter what. I have a huge sense of responsibility to my work. However, Lori's situation has shown me that we have an even larger obligation: to say no when we aren't feeling well or up to the task. I will risk getting fired for calling in as opposed to going through the hell Lori has been through. I would rather tell a future employer that I was fired for calling in sick that having to say that I was fired for being impaired.

    Thank you for sharing, Lori. I know this has been painful and difficult for you and I wish you all the best. At least I hope you can take comfort in knowing that you may have helped a lot of other nurses.

    :yeahthat: :yeahthat: :yeahthat:
  9. by   texas_lvn
    Quote from amygooch

    By the way, Lori, when you have the friend call, you can also have your friend use 3 way calling so that you can hear EXACTLY what they say about you. You can even record it. (Radio Shack has recording devices that attach to phones.) I would record it so if they say more than what is legally allowed, you can sue if you wish, or at the very least, call back and play it for them and scare the living daylights out of them by threatening a lawsuit if they dont give you a written letter of recomendation and adequate severence pay!!! Just a thought!!
    '

    Just a note, there is a FEDERAL law against recording people without their acknowledgement, punishable by FEDERAL PRISON time. So, be careful!! But, there is nothing against having a friend call and ask and you listening on the other line. Good luck.
  10. by   texas_lvn
    [QUOTE=rach_nc_03
    I would leave out the part about the ambien. ([/QUOTE]


    I agree with this. You yourself are not 100% sure you took the Ambien. Could be hubby moved the meds and did not tell you, making you think otherwise. I am always placing things in stupid places. I lost my cell phone once, knowning I had it on the charger. Turns out it was on top of the dryer. So, just because you do not remember, does not mean it did not happen. You were tired, you were upset about the family, and I am sure you were anxious about having to go back to work.
    We support you. Texas.
  11. by   Mulan
    [quote=amygooch

    If you have a 401K, borrow from it if you need to pay bills the next few months. I know you plan to be employed soon, but do the paperwork now, just in case! (And no, I dont think you will be unemployed for long, but we dont want to take any chances, do we?!!)

    Then, if there are any food pantries in your area, go and get groceries. They dont mind helping you either! That is what these places are for!! USe the resources that you have! IF you feel embarrassed, go to one out of town where no one knows you, but do go!! If you feel guilty, then just promise yourself that you will pay back whatever you use when you start workiing again, plus a little more. And do it!

    Also, dont forget to hint to friends with gardens about how much you LOVE home grown veggies, and would kill for any of their extras. I guarentee you they will load you down with whatever they have. I am a Southerner like you, and I grow a garden, and I can assure you that ALL Southerners who grow gardens are like this!! We are happy to share with friends!

    For more cash now, raise the deducables on your home owners and auto insurance. (You can always lower them again after you are employed again!) Then ask your ins agent, to refund you the differance in the overpayment for the last few months you have paid, if you paid 3-6m at a time)

    If you have a car pmt, call the bank, and explain dire necessity to them and ask to be able to pay interest only for the next month or two. (If you have good credit, most will happily oblige you for 1 month at least, and possibly 2).

    Cancel the cable or satellite if you dont have a contract with them. I know this one is HARD to do, but times are hard and this is money you need!! To compensate for the missing channels, go to the public library and rent movies there. You can rent 10 at a time at most. So can your husband and kids! (If they arent with you, you can do it for them if you take their library cards!) So with a family of 4, that means you can rent 40 movies a week!! That ought to give you plenty to watch!! But, if there are still certain shows you HAVE to see, then ask a friend to tape it for you! If there is a movie you want to see that your library doesnt have, it can borrow it from another library. All for free!!

    Ready for your next assignment yet?? Go to the area beauty shops and ask if you can have the magazines they plan to throw away when the new months arrive. Most will give them gladly, as they are pretty heavy in the trash. Then, enjoy reading them yourself while you lick your wounds. When you are reading to join the world again, take these mags to a care facility you hope to work in, and give them to the residents to enjoy. There are several reasons to do this: 1) It will give you free reading material. 2) It will give the residents free reading material. 3) You will be very noticable carrying a HUGE stack of mags into a nursing home, giving them away. Someone from the staff is sure to talk to you, which will get you talking about how you love old people and miss them, since you used to see them all the time where you used to work, etc. Then they will tell you how short staffed they are and how you should apply there.... blah, blah, blah!!! Then you have someone there who is SURE to tell someone how nice you are and how you brought the residents all those mags, etc!!! Doubt this will work? I got a job this very way!!

    Round up all the clothes that you have that are nice, but no longer fit, and take them to a consignment shop. This will bring in some more extra money while money is tight!

    For prescription meds you take regularly (like anti-depressants, birth control pills or whatever applies to you), ask your Dr for free samples. This one should be obvious to most of us here, but sometimes the obvious gets overlooked!

    If an unexpected expense comes up that you have to have, such as a plumber for a clogged pipe or a car repair, try to seek out an independant business instead of a chain. This way you can negotiate the price instead of paying list. Also, you may be able to barter services by doing a trade out. For example, you might see if they have an elderly parent that you could sit with for X number of hours following surgery or hospitlization. Most people would kill to have an experianced nurse watch over a family member in a time of need. If he cant use your services in your chosen field, perhaps he would be willing to fix your car in exchange for your cleaning his house? OR, Maybe you could set up a website for him in exchanbe for the repair? The point is to think outside the box and be creative! Dont forget you have many skills!!

    You are fortunate that this is one of the cheapest months of the year for the electric bill, since most people dont run the A/C or the heat in Sept or the Oct. However, on those cool nights, use the electric blanket instead of turning on the heat. It will save several dollars on your bill!!

    The biggest electricity waster is the hot water heater. Put a timer on it for 30 min before the 1st person gets up, and for it to quit heating at whatever time the last person goes to bed. No need to pay for it to heat all night when no one will be using it!! This will save 30% on the cost of running it, which will translate to a huge chunk on your bill!!

    Also, make use of the crock pot instead of the stove. Why? 1) It costs about 2% of what a stove does to operate. 2) It is quick and easy...you can put in meats frozen, and have them cooked by dinner! 3) They make great Soups/Stews. These are some of the least expensive meals, and also some of the healthiest. 4) You can put it on in the am, go job hunting, and come home to a hot dinner, which will make you less likely to order a pizza just b/c you are tired!

    To save more on the electric bill, line dry clothes instead of tossing in the dryer. Dont have a clothes line? Layer shower curtain rods over your tub. For example, mine has the outside rod, (which holds the decorative shower curtain.) Then, behind that, is the rod that holds the shower curtain liner. Then, behind THAT, there is another rod. This one is used to hang towels that have been used to dry off after showers. (Each family member has a different color so, they dont get confused, and the towels get washed once a week.) This saves on water, detergent, wear and tear on the towels (incl. shrinking) and the irritation of seeing towels everywhere, not to mention the labor of the laundry!! But best of all, it is all hidden behind the shower curtain!! I also use this rod to drip dry undies, stockings, lingerie, etc. But, then I have ANOTHER rod behind that one. (This makes 4 rods, for anyone who is still following this!) The last rod is used to hang clothes to dry when it is too cold or rainy to use the clothesline, and also for things that cant be dried in the dryer (such as comforters that are too big!). By the way, in case you are wondering, those mini "hair claw" things are what I use as "clothes pins" for the shower rods.

    We have 3 bathrooms, and I have this same set up in 2 of them. It is quite handy!! (The other bath has a garden, whirlpool tub, so I couldnt do it in there )

    I have TONS more, but I dont want to overload you (or anyone else here.) If you want to hear any more, let me know, and I will post them or pm them to you. I just want to help. I really do.

    I am not saying that all of these tips are for you. Or that any of this advice is for you. I just hope that some of it helps somehow. I have told you all of this b/c I know what it is like to be worried about money, and as upset as you are about being fired, I am sure the money is a hugs stresser. That is why I wanted to focus on telling you the tips that got me thru.

    I am sure many of you think I am crazy to go to some of these frugal extremes, but I actually honest to goodness dont mind them now! I thought I would DIE when I had to cancel the satellite, but you know what? We actually have become closer as a family and as a couple, since we dont have it! We still have the library videos when we want to zone out, but once I got employed again, I didnt miss this enough to add it back! (Which was HUGE for me!!!) It is funny, but I actually ENJOY trying to save money now!

    I hope some of my tips have helped you. (As you can see, I am worried about you.! :icon_hug: I wish I lived nearby so I could come over with chocolate, Margarita mix, a massusse, and good comedy to cheer you up!) But, unfortunately my cyber hugs will have to do! But please pm me anytime if I can help!

    Lots of hugs,
    Amy Gooch[/quote]


    Feel free to post the rest of your tips! These are all very interesting!
  12. by   texas_lvn
    Quote from Mulan
    Feel free to post the rest of your tips! These are all very interesting!

    Wow Amy, that is very interesting! I am interested in all you have to offer. Maybe we should start a post for "want-to-be money savers!"
  13. by   rehab nurse
    Lori,

    do you have a copy of your drug screen?

    cause if it comes up at your next employer, I would have it with me.

    You know, you were exhausted that night. Maybe there are some nurses out there who would call in because they are excessively tired, etc, but around this area, you'd be fired in a heartbeat if you didn't have a doctor's note for whatever you called in for. You went to work, since you didn't have proper time to notify your employer before calling in. You went to work, then started feeling ill/funny/whatever. Yes, maybe you should have asked to go home, but I know what answer you'd get at my employer. "no". So, if it comes up, just say that you went to work one night after being awake with a relative who is gravely ill, that after you went to work, you started feeling "not good", and when your boss came in, she called you in the office. You can say "they thought i was impaired, but no one asked me what happened, they just brought me to the hospital for a drug test, which came back CLEAN".

    You can say that honestly, and especially if I had a copy of it, I would say they'd be more than welcome to see the negative report.

    Let us know how the interview goes Monday. I hope you're relaxing, and that you find some peace.

    Keep in touch, my friend.

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