I think my spirit is officially broken...

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Here's the deal:

The other night at work I learned that one of my friends at work(I work in a hospital) who is a CNA is in pretty deep trouble because she charted a pt's O2 flow rate via NC along with her v/s. She didn't change the flow rate or route, anything like that, just charted how much O2 the pt was on with the pt's O2 SAT and other v/s. Well, when she charted this, she backtimed it in the computer charting and somehow must have accidentally charted over the RT's charting for that time and changed the RT's charting so the RT told on her to her manager and my friend is in trouble and may lose her job for this. The manager told my friend that she is practicing out of her scope by charting the O2 flow rate because she's "assessing the pt's O2, and that's a medication." In my opinion, just charting an O2 SAT and saying the pt is on O2 doesn't tell the nurse or doctor much without knowing the L/min of O2 the pt was getting...

Also, I just received an updated list of the tasks which are in my scope of practice within my facility and a few things have been removed from my scope which isn't that big of a deal, I guess it means less for me to do, but it's just the idea that now I can't do some things that I did before to help the pts and assist the nurses..

I always try to help the nurses in the best ways I can, by trying to think like them and not just be task oriented... but I'm obviously not allowed to think, according to how my friend is getting in trouble for, in my opinion, being a good, thoughtful, helpful, and smart aide!

I'm just terrified that when I'm a nurse I'm going to be punished for thinking outside the box and not just following the all powerful doctors orders.

Opinions? :confused:

Don't congratulate me yet! I just made the decision after a spirit-breaking ER travel assignment in which they cut my contract short. I'm still hurting. :crying2: And at my age, after 25- yr or more in nursingland, I would have thought I had a tougher coat. Not so. I'm thinking that maybe it's age discrimination. I don't know, I'm rambling. But I'm getting out of the ER. :banghead:

Specializes in Med-surg, ICU.

Nursing and politics. Bleh.

As long as there are people, there will be conflict,

Even a small issue could be the start of future clashes and disputes when in fact it should be taken care of early on.

Specializes in Med/Surg, DSU, Ortho, Onc, Psych.

As a nurse you're not respected.

You are seen by doctors - and many other people - as idiotic and dumb because 'you could only get into nursing'. You have no other value as a human being.

I learned this today when I was told because I started work in aged care, the doctors will not even visit the patients and do not value the RNs/CNs opinions in the slightest. They won't even take into consideration what we say.

Makes me feel like I just wasted my time doing nursing.

Please ANYONE out there who is young, just DO NOT GO INTO NURSING! We are seen as dumb, slow-witted, stupid, fat, somehow less than a doctor and navie in lots of ways. It has got to the point now where I am so frustrated, I am going to walk away from this profession altogether and never go back.

Get out of nursing and RUN AWAY.......as fast as you can.

Specializes in cardiology/oncology/MICU.
As a nurse you're not respected.

You are seen by doctors - and many other people - as idiotic and dumb because 'you could only get into nursing'. You have no other value as a human being.

I learned this today when I was told because I started work in aged care, the doctors will not even visit the patients and do not value the RNs/CNs opinions in the slightest. They won't even take into consideration what we say.

Makes me feel like I just wasted my time doing nursing.

Please ANYONE out there who is young, just DO NOT GO INTO NURSING! We are seen as dumb, slow-witted, stupid, fat, somehow less than a doctor and navie in lots of ways. It has got to the point now where I am so frustrated, I am going to walk away from this profession altogether and never go back.

Get out of nursing and RUN AWAY.......as fast as you can.

My goodness!:kiss Sounds like you had a hard night. You know you love nursing! There are lots of other things to do out there. Some days I find myself practicing just in case. It goes something like this: "Would you like fries with that?":D

Specializes in LTC.

Sounds to me like the aide was just collecting data ;)

Just make sure all the aide and all of the nurses know the aide's new scope of practice. I can see it changing once staff nurses start labeling it as rediculous.

Specializes in Telemetry Med/Surg.

Dont let it break your spirit! Just don't chart the O2 flow anymore and when questioned about it say "I was told not to do that, RT doesn't like it" and see just how much they will miss you doing it when they have to pick up that extra task.

Specializes in ICU.

CNAs at my hospital are not "allowed" to do anything with O2. We're not supposed to initiate, adjust nasal cannula that are not on properly, disconnect, extend tubing, ambulate with a cylinder, or take pulse ox readings. In fact, the pulse oximetery readers have been removed from the automatic vitals machines (which is oh-so-helpful in a code or rapid response when now someone has to hunt down a pulse ox).

Unfortunately, it's really hard to toliet or change a bed or do CNA work without touching the O2 at all. :( And it certianly seems counter-intuitive to leave a patient with their nasal cannula half in to go get the nurse or RT to move it 2 centimeters and tighten it; or leave them sitting in bed needing assistance to the bathroom while I hunt down a nurse or RT to add some extension tubing so the patient can make it the extra 3 feet to the toilet. :uhoh3:

Specializes in ED, ICU, MS/MT, PCU, CM, House Sup, Frontline mgr.
don't congratulate me yet! i just made the decision after a spirit-breaking er travel assignment in which they cut my contract short. i'm still hurting. :crying2: and at my age, after 25- yr or more in nursingland, i would have thought i had a tougher coat. not so. i'm thinking that maybe it's age discrimination.

you are not alone... i know of a nurse with 30+ years experience whose contract was cut short recently too. she was smart and pointed out problems that my former er could fix to help patients, but they threw her out!!! of course, not before they tried to make her life a living nightmare. fortunately for me, i learned the lessons she was trying to teach because they helped me to grow as a nurse. my former colleagues are a different story.

i don't know, i'm rambling. but i'm getting out of the er. :banghead:

me too, but the idea of working in another bedside job makes me want to vomit! so i am talking to my manger this week to see if something else can be arranged... i am done with bedside nursing... i have no problem with the nursing field, caring for patients, learning, training, etc.... my problem is working in environments where i must look over my shoulder from the moment i walk onto the floor to the moment i leave my shift because a co-worker may be ready to throw me under a bus to cover his/her own bottom! this is nothing like my past experience in other fields…. i had to watch my back but not all shift. i also did not get approached about one thing or another all shift. anyone who thinks differently can go ahead and continue working by bedside. especially since we can not all leave....

Yes, I agree with you. I've had some great travel experience with great people, just not in the last 6-8 months. I find that being a travel nurse, you just have to say nothing when first going in. That is a tough way to work. I had a tremendous adrenaline yearning, and I got it out of my system (and burned myself out, of course). And I had to learn to just walk away. It was easy to go into another field, ambulatory surgery (I got to do all the conscious sedation) and be the "safety officer" and check all the cords and sockets and gauges, etc...it was busy work and I loved it. But then they cut my hours.I am my own bread winner, so ??? I moved on...and on....back to ER to make some $$$. Now I know I just can't take it anymore. The looking over your shoulder stuff. But I thought today of an anesthesiologist I know, who is gay, and was one of the organizers of the first gay games. ...like the Olympics.... He was working locum tenens, and came to our surgery center to do some surgeries. He had to take the public transit and was so entertaining...describing how you couldn't get a good milliner anymore like the old ones in New York. He got an opportunity to go and work at the military hospital in DC...and talked and talked and he was so excited...He was back in one week, looking devastated and in pain and wouldn't talk about his experience. He just said he was glad to be back and never talked about it again. I felt so bad for him. So, guys, it's not just us.

I've had a million jobs in my "other life" outside of nursing. I worked in public relations (at least you can go home and forget it at night!), worked as a tour guide, a babysitter, head of Butterick-Vogue publishing (fun!) Checked out goods at a big dept. store in Canada, put price tags on nuts and bolts, tended bar with a real license and waited tables as well. I've been a switchboard operator and a secretary/receptionist. My Dad (bless his soul) forced me to take a one year commercial skills course after highschool, and I've never regretted it. I am now starting to think I could do great pet care and the more I have worked ER, the better flower arranging is starting to look.

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