I cannot believe a nurse did this...... - page 6
My grandmother in law is a resident at a local nursing home. My husband took my kids to see her today (I was at home with the baby). The nurse there took the cotton packing out of the top of a bottle... Read More
9Dec 30, '12 by merleeI had to laugh at this. As earlier stated, there are few meds that are given in LTCs that would be packed with cotton. But much more importantly, any medical facility is so full of crud that being swiped with a cotton ball would be my very last concern,
Those rails in the halls? Whose hands were on them since they were last cleaned yesterday? Any door knob? And after your kid rubbed his runny nose - where did that stuff end up???
I clearly remember taking my own kids to nursing homes to visit various people, and nearly every person just wanted to touch the children as we passed. When I took my first-born to visit my grandmother, I'll bet he was touched by 15 different people that day, some family members, some were staff, some were other residents. He is still alive!
Oh, and I took him to work one time, before I went back in. Into an acute dialysis unit in a very large hospital. Nearly every staff member touched him in one way or another. Did the same with my 2nd kid. Both are still alive!
I am not trying to be mean, but everything needs to be put in perspective. Your kids play in a sandbox or in a playground with other kids - - who knows what they come in contact with??
By the way, I noted that the OP has not commented on what has been posted so far.
Please realize that most people do not mean any harm to your children. My dad loved to talk to little kids in stores and supermarkets, and so do I. It makes me sad when parents get all upset because I have smiled or waved at their little ones.
Best wishes, dear nurses, all of you!
3Dec 30, '12 by mappers@merlee On Christmas Eve, my 13yo and I were in line at the grocery store (very busy). A Little Old Man in one of those motorized bascarts came up to my daughter and struck up a conversation. He asked her about school, made jokes about himself. My daughter smiled and answered the best she could (she's 13 and you know a "teenager"). The lady behind me and I also answered him and were cheerful. I wondered if he was lonely at home and came to the grocery on Christmas Eve to find companionship. It made me a little sad. I hope my daughter brightened his day.
2Dec 30, '12 by Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN Senior ModeratorQuote from mappersTrue, it is, I take methotrexate as chemotherapy.....it is classified as a chemotherapeutic drug I was talking about "chemo like drugs are give in LTC as well as drugs like methotrexate...I was not clear. I apologize. I stand correct on Tamoxifen. But the nurses action..... I still feel was inappropriate and unprofessional. Don't take a cotton ball from a bottle of medicine and swipe it on my kids face.....I personally, probably, would not let my kids go to the nursing home....but it's Christmas and they are visiting Great Grandma...I don't find that outrageous behavior on the action of the parents.Methotrexate is chemo, Tamoxifen is not. And I'm pretty sure JTC has little to do with LTC.
But the JC does accredit LTC
The Joint Commission’s Long Term Care Accreditation Program was launched in 1966. Today, more than 10,000 organizations offering long term care services are accredited.
Organizations eligible for long term care accreditation include those with:
- Beds licensed by the state as nursing home beds, excluding intermediate care facilities specializing in care for individuals with mental retardation and other developmental disabilities.
- Beds designated as long term care beds under a hospital license, excluding beds belonging to a long term acute care hospital and hospital swing beds.
- Beds, units or facilities certified by Medicare or Medicaid as skilled nursing facility beds.
- Beds, units or facilities designated as long term care by a governmental entity, such as the Department of Veterans’ Affairs or a state authority.
For more information see Facts about Long Term Care Accreditation.Last edit by Esme12 on Dec 30, '12
10Dec 30, '12 by FlorenceNtheMachineLet me pose another question to the OP, if this is even real. If you have an issue with a particular nurse, why can't you address it with the nurse directly and calmly. Why does it have to be over her head?? What other way would be better in getting your expectations of behavior straightened out?
Going to administration, TJC, or the BON seems so ridiculously premature when a simple conversation with the nurse would probably suffice.
1Dec 30, '12 by mappersInteresting. I wonder if any LTC around here are accredited by JTC. I only ever hear about state surveys.
7Dec 30, '12 by That Guy, BSN, RN, EMT-BAnd we wonder what is wrong with society today.
6Dec 30, '12 by nurseladybug12ugh get over it.
0Dec 30, '12 by Ruas61, BSN, RNQuote from mappersI haven't seen it for any LTC in my 30 years.Interesting. I wonder if any LTC around here are accredited by JTC. I only ever hear about state surveys.
6Dec 30, '12 by StormyskierSounds like the nurse was just trying to be nice to your kids and this is what happens, you want to report her to the BON?!? I say relax!!!
12Dec 30, '12 by applewhiternWhy is it always nurses that society wants to complain about? If it had been a doctor that tickled the child with the cotton ball, I bet not a darn thing would have been said. If your husband was there, why didn't he simply say, "hey, don't do that!" instead of running home to you to complain? Isn't he an adult who can speak for himself and his child? Why do I get the feeling you have a personal issue with this particular nurse?
10Dec 30, '12 by psu_213, BSN, RNObviously I'm not going to rehash the arguments that others have made about how silly it would be to report this to the BON. I do agree this was inappropriate for the nurse to use the cotton to touch the child's cheek. However, at most, report it to the DON...and don't take your child back there again! (And not taking your child back has nothing to do with the cotton ball incident, it has to do with exposing your 4 year old to all the pathogens you find in any HC facility.)
The second part is not directed at the OP. It has to do with society as a whole and society's need to report every little thing to a higher authority (and I don't mean a spiritual one). For instance, a few stories I saw on the local news recently:
1. One channel near me reports on deficiencies at restaurants. Not a bad idea. However, one mom and pop restaurant was investigated because someone reported to the health department that they put down the water and then put down the bread on the table. Bread crumbs fell from the bread dish into the water. Kinda yucky, but definitely not a public health scare. Now the mom and pop restaurant has to defend itself again silly accusations.
2. A small business, family owned store has a wicked pothole in their parking lot. The news had a report that accused the store of not caring about the health of its customers, especially kids and the elderly, since they could twist an ankle in the pothole and/or fall. The story ended with the report gleefully telling us that his station was a great crusader for the public since they reported this to the state department of transportation, to the state police, and to a consumer advocate (who then got a personal injury lawyer involved).
There is a time and place to report to the DOH, BON, etc. However, this is getting abused in America. It is more of a threat to get your way than an actual attempt to improve life. OP, try to think about that before you try to ruin this nurse's career.
6Dec 30, '12 by beekerThis is a HUGE overreaction. You need to educate yourself on what the Board of Nursing does and what would constitute a valid complaint. I believe very strongly in karma. If you report this nurse for something that is a non issue and frivolous , which this obviously is, then I'd be sure to be pretty darn careful at work. My advice, Don't sweat the small stuff. This, in my opinion, does not even warrant a complaint to management. If I were the manager and someone came to me with this complaint, I would probably have a hard time not rolling my eyes. If they then told me they were a nurse, I would be shocked and saddened.
6Dec 30, '12 by HM-8404I am sure I'm wrong here but I don't think any narcotics, or oncology drugs are packaged with cotton batting.
I would be more concerned with what your 4 yr old touched in your bathroom or kitchen before putting a finger in their mouth than a piece of cotton that is almost certainly harmless.