I am being advised that when I graduate...

  1. I am being advised that when I graduate I can walk right into a RN position. Why am I seeing that I may have to hound or beg the HR for a position? I feel that the more you jump, hoot and holler in HR face, the more they laugh and get their thrills of saying "nothing yet, sorry". Maybe NM should be taken out of the picture all together. Why can't the director of nursing do all the hiring like in the old days. To me it is crazy to believe that I will have to beg for a RN position. Am I being ignorant about some fact here in nursing?

    If this is so, then I will have a professional do my resume, betcha dollar bottom I will. Now, I am scared of paying all this money for a degree and possibly may have to look at begging for a job. No way not me!!!!! Thumbs down on that.
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  3. by   nurse901
    Amen to that!!! I am so frustrated right now with this situation. Anyone outside of the nursing field says "nurses are needed everywhere, trust me you will have no problems getting a job." HAHA if they only knew how it really is right now. I will be graduating with my BSN in May and I am getting really frustrated with this job situation. Try to hang in there.
  4. by   Medic09
    This is a bit like Real Estate - location is everything. Some locales have their fill, and the economic crunch makes it tight. Some places, like out here in NM, are chronically understaffed and most of the local grads are walking right into jobs.
  5. by   HouTx
    So sorry you are all having such a hard time with jobbage. Timing really is everything.

    Just a little background - about job availablility. Organizations (healthcare & otherwise) have 'position control' systems that outline exactly how many jobs they have including the type of job (staff, management, RN, CNA, etc..), the "FTE" for the job (FT, PT, PRN, etc) and the location/department. The number & type of positions is determined by the volume of work that the department does. Generally, the higher the workload, the more positions they have.

    Bottom line - no one person determines whether there are jobs available or not. The Hiring manager can only hire into "approved" positions. If census goes down, the number of approved positions will drop. So - don't beat up the nurse managers - it's not their fault.
  6. by   Lexnursingstudent
    I am not beating up the nurse manager, thank you very much for you insensitivity, and false accusation!! I am not that type of a person, and before you go accusing me, sounds like you are a professional at business hiring. I was not iquiring about your expertise perhaps in another are than nursing. Yes, maybe they NM ought to take a pay cut as well, it does not take 6 MN (one for each floor) to hire nurses to fill a hospital. Not more than it takes to hire someone with 3 years experience for the ICU compared to a new graduate, becuase they are training us really well here at the university, and there are a lot of us who are a lot more smarter than some nurses in the hospital now. Yes, that is right, we are being taught and are getting hands on the most updated nursing concepts and training there is. So, take that to your NM.

    We are good trained nurses while we are in college, and if anybody gives me a hard time as a new grad, I call that bullying, and will file a harassment law suit. Trust me!!!

    MN make too much money!!!!!
    Last edit by XB9S on Mar 30, '09 : Reason: Inflammatory
  7. by   RNperdiem
    I hear you.
    I graduated during the recession in the 1990's and dealt with the difficulty landing a first job. A lot of us took the jobs we settled for rather than the jobs we wanted. With experience, more possibilities opened up.
    You haven't had to actually "jump, hoot and holler" for HR at all yet, have you? Keep an open mind, and maybe applying won't be as bad as you imagine.
  8. by   Multicollinearity
    Quote from Lexnursingstudent
    I am not beating up the nurse manager, thank you very much for you insensitivity, and false accusation!! I am not that type of a person, and before you go accusing me, sounds like you are a professional at business hiring. I was not iquiring about your expertise perhaps in another are than nursing. Yes, maybe they NM ought to take a pay cut as well, it does not take 6 MN (one for each floor) to hire nurses to fill a hospital. Not more than it takes to hire someone with 3 years experience for the ICU compared to a new graduate, becuase they are training us really well here at the university, and there are a lot of us who are a lot more smarter than some nurses in the hospital now. Yes, that is right, we are being taught and are getting hands on the most updated nursing concepts and training there is. So, take that to your NM.

    We are good trained nurses while we are in college, and if anybody gives me a hard time as a new grad, I call that bullying, and will file a harassment law suit. Trust me!!!

    MN make too much money!!!!!
    I don't think these attitudes and beliefs are going to be conducive to landing a new grad job. I hear you that you are frustrated, but you might want to examine some of your thoughts. Your comment about a "4 year RN" (BSN, new grad) being more valuable than an ADN nurse with experience is laughable. These beliefs and attitudes will be transmitted in interviews and the outcome may not be good for you.
    Last edit by XB9S on Mar 30, '09 : Reason: quoting edited text
  9. by   Lexnursingstudent
    no not yet. I already have a job when I graduate, making $30.00 hr. my sister is an RN for the Government, and I have already met with the safety engineers and I have a job waiting for me. She does the hiring and scheduling. I am so excited. She and another retired Army nurse spits the 24 hour days. 12/12. Sundays off. Only when needed. And it is a great job. I am going to just love it.

    I better not have to jump hoot and holler either, I will go to HR one time and one time only. Then from there, watch for things like discrimination hire.
  10. by   Lexnursingstudent
    No not of course not when applying for a position. And I not have bad beliefs / attitudes. That is what you call it, look behind you, is that all the better you could come up with.
    Last edit by XB9S on Mar 30, '09 : Reason: Inflammatory
  11. by   sunray12
    Quote from rnperdiem
    i hear you.
    i graduated during the recession in the 1990's and dealt with the difficulty landing a first job. a lot of us took the jobs we settled for rather than the jobs we wanted. with experience, more possibilities opened up.
    you haven't had to actually "jump, hoot and holler" for hr at all yet, have you? keep an open mind, and maybe applying won't be as bad as you imagine.
    that's pretty much standard for new grads outside nursing - good economy, bad economy, any time. has there been a time when nurses were exempt from this??
  12. by   ToxicShock
    Quote from Lexnursingstudent
    no not yet. I already have a job when I graduate, making $30.00 hr. my sister is an RN for the Government, and I have already met with the safety engineers and I have a job waiting for me. She does the hiring and scheduling. I am so excited. She and another retired Army nurse spits the 24 hour days. 12/12. Sundays off. Only when needed. And it is a great job. I am going to just love it.

    I better not have to jump hoot and holler either, I will go to HR one time and one time only. Then from there, watch for things like discrimination hire.
    So wait, why are you complaining about not finding a job when you will have a job when you graduate?

    And where is the hate for associate degree RNs coming from?

    Boy, did somebody **** in your corn flakes this morning!
  13. by   carluvscats
    Take it easy, Lex....... most everyone on here is supportive and sympathetic to one another.
  14. by   Lexnursingstudent
    no, like i said a few days ago, nursing is not going to get any special attention. saving the economy of the US is, whatever it takes. coal miners are just as important to the economy as much as nurses are. without coal miners there would be no nurses, so attention to the coal miners will come first. that only makes sense, right?

    look, we all know that nursing is not a promising job, and the money that we have to spend to go to a 4 year university is outrages, so yes the money stimulus will go to the universities with the BA programs, and everything will be based on the level of education.

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