House - Is this what nurses do? - page 3
Did anyone watch House tonight? The reason I'm asking is about halfway through the show I think the MD played by Omar Epps made a rude comment about nurses. The situation was that the MD was... Read More
Nov 23, '06one of my posts got deleted when this thread was combined, and my thoughts aren't all there.
i am concerned about the TV portrayal of nurses. I fully believe the public is misinformed/ignorant about what the true job of nurses is.
I also said that I was surprised that Omar Epps character didn't say anything nice about nurses to that young girl, since he IS DATING a nurse on the show. why does he have to talk about his boss' negative opinion? he could have said something to her negative comment "is this all nurses do?!". even the girl had a smirk on her face like she thought nurses were stupid.
it made me angry to see it. and i was another one who had to rewind that scene a few times to hear what he said.
My other post (that was deleted) also said that I am aware of how TV affects the public's view of many topics, not just nursing. Remember the thread about the newspaper article where the accountant stated that "nurses are not professionals"? it was just a couple weeks ago.
i am surprised how many pts on the show allow this doctor (house) to come in and yell at them, degrade them, etc. it's sickening. his character is really abusive to patients as well. he may be a genius, but he's a jerk (can't say here what i really think! . i'm glad his underlings are finally standing up to his crazy antics.
i can't remember any more of what was in my deleted post.
Nov 23, '06Why don't we pitch a show about nurses to the networks? It would be comedy/drama. Some of what we see is quite serious but yet some of it is hilarious.
I've racked my brain and I cannot think of one show that potrays nurses in a positive light. I love MASH, but even then the dr's treated them like sex objects and the dr's saved the day, not the nurses.
Nov 23, '06Actually Bethin...long long time ago..LOL..there was a show called NURSE, staring Micheal Learned (female)...it was cool! The only reason I even know about it...was she is my great aunt, who I have never met actually!
I wonder if she would think it was cool to have a relative that is ACTUALLY a nurse! LOL!
That was a good show..for the re-runs I have seen...very dated mind you (smoking at the nurses desk...glass IV's...yes doc all the time...and short skirts in white! And Lord help you if the coffee wasn't right on! LOL!).
So..looking for a show that was actually cool about RN's....well it was in the 70's~ LOL...nothing recent though! LOL!
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Nov 23, '06I generally don't watch medically oriented shows on TV, I decided I wasn't going to watch house from the first pre-view. However, I was watching "Untold Stories of the ER" on TLC last night and I really enjoyed that one. The ER doc was new and another doc told him to use a specific type of forcep to get a fork out of a patient's throat. The doctor looked at the table obviously perplexed and a nurse pointed it out to him.
I only watched a couple episodes of this show, but so far I've been pleased with the nurse portrayal. Now, if only it was more mainstream. ~sigh~
Nov 23, '06Does anyone know anyone involved in the TV industry? Maybe it's time we came up with a realistic show about nurses! I mean, really...the story would be different every week - we do tons of interesting stuff, there are plenty of scary, funny, moving, surprising patients, families and situations. I really don't understand why one hasn't been done already. Remember China Beach? It's time for the media to portray nurses accurately. I sometimes wonder why anyone wants to become a nurse if their only exposure to nursing is what they see on TV!
Nov 23, '06Nobody is more maligned in TV shows and movies than lawyers. Yet, I don't see lawyers complaining about it.
Nov 23, '06Quote from ziasIf you notice, a big driving plot point in all of these shows is solving the medical mystery. And the medical mystery involves docs and diagnosis. That's probably why a lot of these shows focus on docs.Does anyone know anyone involved in the TV industry? Maybe it's time we came up with a realistic show about nurses! I mean, really...the story would be different every week - we do tons of interesting stuff, there are plenty of scary, funny, moving, surprising patients, families and situations. I really don't understand why one hasn't been done already. Remember China Beach? It's time for the media to portray nurses accurately. I sometimes wonder why anyone wants to become a nurse if their only exposure to nursing is what they see on TV!
Nov 23, '06The Center for Nursing Advocacy lists House and Grey's Anatomy as the WORST in their portrayal of Nurses....interesting.
from Medscape Nurses, Mar 2006 Richard S. Ferri, PhD, ANP, ACRN, FAAN
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Nov 23, '06That show is way out of whack anyway..I like it , I admit, but it is really not reality based. They (the md's) give their own meds, draw their labs, go to that lab and retrieve the results, they do their own imaging, they take their own vitals, perform ekg's, they even perform surgery!!!!
Nov 23, '06Quote from marilynmomEven though these shows are not "realistic," they do have a basis in reality. This is why people watch. People tend to believe the role that the actor is playing. Studies show that they do believe that they learn from these shows. These same shows hire experts to ensure that these shows are accurate for a reason. Why would they hire experts if they did not want their shows to appear realistic?Please tell me one tv show that IS realistic.
Let's be honest. We live in a country that loves television. A lot of Americans get their "news" from entertainment television, watch sitcoms instead of a presidential debate, and would rather vote for an "Idol" than a Senator.
Quote from lizzI love watching Boston Legal, The Practice, Shark, etc., and I don't see where lawyers would have anything to complain about. They are shown to have a conscious, fight for the little guy, and do all the work. Rarely do you ever see a paralegal on these shows. Paralegals are an integral part of a law firms success just like Nurses, but without the glory of being a Lawyer or Doctor. Besides, Lawyers are still part of the "powerful" professions. People may say they don't like lawyers, but find out your son or daughter wants to become a lawyer and people think "oh that's wonderful." If someone finds out their son or daughter is going to marry a Lawyer,eyes light up, mother-in-law proudly says "he's a lawyer." I really don't think they have much to complain about. As a nursing student, I constantly get "are you going to go on to become a doctor?" People do not realize that Nursing is a profession by itself. It would be like asking a cop if he is going to go on to become a lawyer. They both deal with the law, but they are separate professions; however, when it comes to Nursing and Medicine this distinction is not made. Why? Because of an ignorant public that gets their view of Nurses from t.v.Nobody is more maligned in TV shows and movies than lawyers. Yet, I don't see lawyers complaining about it.
Quote from lizzI agree the plots are normally about Medicine; however, so is the hospital environment. Yet, Nurses are an essential part of the hospital environement. Hospitals are there for the purpose of nursing care! The point is it would not hurt the producers of Grey's Anatomy to show Nurses in a positive light or for a Nurse to push a med while House yells at a patient. The plots would not change, but the perception that the public would have about Nurses would. This is SAD, but very true, and studies prove that this would affect the way that viewers see Nurses!If you notice, a big driving plot point in all of these shows is solving the medical mystery. And the medical mystery involves docs and diagnosis. That's probably why a lot of these shows focus on docs.
Everyone needs to be educated on what exactly Nurses do. There are studies that show even Doctors do not really know what all Nurses do and why they need the education that they have. If you just want a job and you don't care about nursing as a profession, well then, I understand an apathetic view of this topic; however, if you love being a Nurse and you care about the future of Nursing then I would hope that you would see the damage that these shows do to the profession and understand those that want to see a change.
Nov 24, '06Quote from jb2uI'll try to ignore you're insulting remarks and explain where I'm coming from.Everyone needs to be educated on what exactly Nurses do. There are studies that show even Doctors do not really know what all Nurses do and why they need the education that they have. If you just want a job and you don't care about nursing as a profession, well then, I understand an apathetic view of this topic; however, if you love being a Nurse and you care about the future of Nursing then I would hope that you would see the damage that these shows do to the profession and understand those that want to see a change.
I worked in the TV news business which is pretty much the same as the TV entertainment business, since it's all ratings driven. Education and entertainment are not the same thing. TV producers don't care about education, they care about ratings because that's what pays the bills.
I'm skeptical not because I don't care about nursing ... but only because I've been in these meetings where TV producers decide what shows to do.
I just keep trying to picture what show they could do about nurses. And I'm not talking about a show that nurses would want to see, but a show that could be economically feasible enough to grab some ratings. This is the only reason any show gets on the air.
There's a very good chance it would not turn out to be a show that nurses would want ... but a show that would upset nurses even further with nurses as sex kittens screwing this or that person, etc. because, unfortunately, that's the content most likely to grab ratings.
And, if the show was more serious and had any basis in reality ... you'd still have to show nurses taking orders from docs because that's what nurses do. So ... are the producers going to put the docs in background and show some saintly nurse saving the day? Not likely since the reality is, docs still call the shots.
I just tend to be more practical because I was in the TV business. Be careful what you wish for. They're not in the business of making nurses or, anyone else for that matter, look good. They're in the business of getting ratings.
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