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No. 20
Old Jun 23, 2009, 07:15 PM

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I work for a large teaching hospital that is a state entity. All health care workers are covered. We were told that it would only hurt us to take out our own liability because if we were sued, the people could keep coming after us to get that money too. But I have never heard any complaints. They have a risk management team who has our best interest at heart. Our incident reports are kept on record for years, just in case anything comes up. I think if you work for a private hospital you need your own coverage.
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No. 21
from CrufflerJJ
Old Jun 23, 2009, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Aydia1 View Post
Going on with this same thread, my hospital assures me that I do not need any extra insurance, and that they will cover me. This is a large Catholic hospital that I would like to believe would cover me. Has anyone else heard this from their hospital?
I've read that many employers will tell you that same thing. You may be covered by their policy, if they are convinced that you didn't violate any of their rules/regulations/guidelines/policies.

If, however, you forgot to comply with paragraph 37, subsection Z on page 2714 of the Employee's Handbook (Abridged Edition), you might end up high & dry.
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No. 22
Old Jun 23, 2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NursingtheHeart View Post
I work for a large teaching hospital that is a state entity. All health care workers are covered. We were told that it would only hurt us to take out our own liability because if we were sued, the people could keep coming after us to get that money too. But I have never heard any complaints. They have a risk management team who has our best interest at heart. Our incident reports are kept on record for years, just in case anything comes up. I think if you work for a private hospital you need your own coverage.
But doesn't every hospital have coverage? Any facility can and will face a law suit, and to me, risk management has the best interests of the facility, but not necessarily the employee.

The day I received my newly earned license in the mail, I applied for malpractice insurance. I already knew the place I was working for. They are haphazard in EVERYTHING from communication on down and also, I knew I would be working for more places than just this one, so, it was probably to my advantage to do so.

I respect your reasoning, each person does what is best for themselves. But, I have seen many situations go south in an instant over the years, even as a CNA to trust anyone but myself.
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No. 23
Old Jun 23, 2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ View Post
I've read that many employers will tell you that same thing. You may be covered by their policy, if they are convinced that you didn't violate any of their rules/regulations/guidelines/policies.

If, however, you forgot to comply with paragraph 37, subsection Z on page 2714 of the Employee's Handbook (Abridged Edition), you might end up high & dry.
That was a good one, and most certainly, when they want to pin the blame, they will find policies from their graves to screw someone. And most of the time, they don't know their own policies enough to even update them. Too scary for me.
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No. 24
from elkpark
Old Jun 23, 2009, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NursingtheHeart View Post
They have a risk management team who has our best interest at heart.
If you believe this, I have a bridge in Arizona I'd like to sell you ...

Seriously, every employer says what your employer told you, and it's just not true. When the day comes that the doo-doo hits the fan, if the facility can minimize its own liability by throwing a few RNs under the bus, those RNs will get thrown under the bus so fast it will take your breath away. I have witnessed this myself, personally, many times, in a wide variety of facilities (happening to others, that is -- I've been lucky so far ...)

Trust me on this -- the risk management team has the hospital's best interests at heart, not yours.
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No. 25
from Batman24
Old Jun 23, 2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by pagandeva2000 View Post
Okay, now I get it. Mum's the word!
LOL!! I forgot to answer you and went back and edited it.
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No. 26
from Batman24
Old Jun 23, 2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by elkpark View Post
Seriously, every employer says what your employer told you, and it's just not true. When the day comes that the doo-doo hits the fan, if the facility can minimize its own liability by throwing a few RNs under the bus, those RNs will get thrown under the bus so fast it will take your breath away. I have witnessed this myself, personally, many times, in a wide variety of facilities (happening to others, that is -- I've been lucky so far ...)

Trust me on this -- the risk management team has the hospital's best interests at heart, not yours.
Absolutely right. PLEASE get your own malpractice insurance and don't even let your employer or anyone know you have it unless you absolutely need to do so to protect yourself down the line.
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No. 27
Old Jun 23, 2009, 09:01 PM

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If you don't work for the hospital that I do, then you don't know what you are talking about. Because the hospital is a state entity, it can't be sued. Only individual health care workers can be sued. I know people who have been involved in suits, and they were satisfied. Whenever an unexpected event(i.e., self-extubation, falls) happens, we trendtrack the event. Suits may come years later, and the hospital has the information on record. Those who need their own insurance, I say go for it. But if your hospital truly covers you (seek more info), I wouldn't get any extra. It allows the plaintiff to continue to come after you for more money.
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No. 28
Old Jun 23, 2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NursingtheHeart View Post
If you don't work for the hospital that I do, then you don't know what you are talking about. Because the hospital is a state entity, it can't be sued. Only individual health care workers can be sued. I know people who have been involved in suits, and they were satisfied. Whenever an unexpected event(i.e., self-extubation, falls) happens, we trendtrack the event. Suits may come years later, and the hospital has the information on record. Those who need their own insurance, I say go for it. But if your hospital truly covers you (seek more info), I wouldn't get any extra. It allows the plaintiff to continue to come after you for more money.
I have seen city, county and state hospitals sued...look at the Kings County Incident where the patient died on the floor, on camera. They just settled for 2 million. Meanwhile, the nurses were still thrown under the bus. Now it is true that some of them lied and forged documents to cover their rear ends, but to be honest, there is still so much that we just don't know about the entire incident. Where was the nursing station located? What was the census? How many nursing staff members were there? What else was happening within the unit? They could have called their nursing supervisors, the AOD and even filled out protests of assignments that very morning, who knows? And, it could have been ignored. Maybe there were reasons to that could have preceded the death that the nurses could have had a legitimate complaint, had they not lied and forged. It is Risk Management's job to trendback events, and no facility wants to say that they don't have a flawless staff. But, I can't accept that an entire facility will totally support their employees to the bitter end. And, if they sue individual health care workers (and of course, ANYONE can do that), this is the point we are making.

So, I respectfully say that it is true that I don't work for your hospital and again, I respect your decision to decide not to take personal malpractice insurance. It is an individual choice, for sure. I just think that no one should put entire trust in anyone but themselves, no matter what choice they make.
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No. 29
from CTMMaine
Old Jun 24, 2009, 01:12 AM

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ok..........so i need info on how to get malpractice insurance please.......
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