DUI's & Licensure - page 7
OK Here goes. Ten years ago I got two DUI's. Now I'm pretty sure that those two won't affect me with licensure as long as I petition the boards effectively. Just yesterday I found out that I was... Read More
Jul 12, '03Originally posted by sbn8tv
This is getting way too wierd for me. I won't be posting anymore but I just have a couple questions for all you who asume that I am some kind of monster because I got a 3rd DUI in ten years. Do any of you smoke? Do you know the statistics on that? Do you come down this hard on people who do?
Jul 12, '03SBN, PLEASE TAKE IT FROM EXPERIENCE. PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ALCOHOL DO NOT GET DUI'S. IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE. BELIEVE ME, IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE ONCE YOU GET FURTHER INTO YOUR CAREER! I'M NOT PREACHING, I'M JUST TRYING TO TEACH FROM MY PAST. I WON'T GO INTO IT HERE. JUST, PLEASE TAKE IT FROM SOMEONE WHO KNOWS.!!!!
Jul 12, '03I think you should not "waste your money", as you put it.
Nurses must be accountable for their actions.
Nurses need to be able to consider the consequences of their actions.
Nurses must be able to separate signs and symptoms from an underlying cause.
Nurses must learn to prioritize.
Nurse need to practice self control.
From your posts- your defensiveness, your emphasis on the DUI vs. the danger of drinking and driving, your attempts to change the subject when it got uncomfortable for you - indicate that you would not make it through a nursing program anyway.
You can't be a nurse if you refuse to be responsible.
Jul 12, '03I too wasn't going to post on this (very long) thread. Howeve, as an ER RN who also knows the heartache of taking care of the victims of ETOH, please rethink your career choice. Take care.
Jul 12, '03I just signed up for this board today and was scanning the posts when I came across this questions about the 3 DUI's. I don't know if you have spoken to the SBN but I think you may not be able to take boards.
I say this because one of my good friends and former co-workers went to school and completed successfully. When it came time to take boards, a single MIP (minor in possession) came up and he had to testify before the state board why he thought he should be allowed to take boards. Needless to say, they raked him over the coals and left him hanging for a long time before they allowed him to take boards.
With 3 DUI's, they (the BON) may reject you before you even start school. The school may reject you as well. My daughter is currently entering her senior year in a BSN program. All of the hospitals are doing background checks and drug screens on not only students, but employees. Nondisclosure = getting kicked out of school.
Just my two cents worth.
Jul 12, '03I know you're all right and I asked for it and yeah the smoking analogy was a reach but damn, give a brother some love for at least admitting wrongdoing and stuff. I know I have a problem and I'm working on it OK. That's all I can do. You've all given me good advice and I thank you. Really I do. I am not just giving you lip service but how would you know this because this is my first post and you don't really know me. I know you're all skeptical and have seen people dead because of people who drink and drive but I never have and maybe that's why I am so arrogant about it. Listen folks I am not disagreeing with you that I have a problem with judgement when I drink. That is a bad thing and I know it. Thanks for bringing it to my attention so effectively. Like I said before I've never felt so cared about. It's like I have all these people saying ... yer bad.. yer bad ...yer bad when I KNOW I'm frickin bad I am going to go to counseling and stuff and yeah maybe that is to satisfy the BRN but don't you think it will also do me some good as well. Maybe I might just learn something? Maybe I am a good guy with a good heart who wants this all to go away and just wants friends who can help with information and stuff. That's OK isn't it? Please stop beating up on me because I can't stop reading these posts and it's making me really obsessive. I get the hint. I won't drink and drive and I will pass it along and I'm thinking about just shining the whole nursing thing because it sounds like it might just be way too ugly with the death stuff and all that. I hate looking at dead people like at funerals and stuff. I probably would get the willys cartin' some carcass off to the morgue not to mention all the blood and poop and phlegm and stuff. Anyways I love you all even if you think I'm an ass. If I decide to stick with the nursing thing I will be here asking more stupid questions and trying to relieve stress by venting but isn't that what these boards are all about?
Now I'm more confused than ever. Life goes on...
Jul 12, '03it sounds like it might just be way too ugly with the death stuff and all that. I hate looking at dead people like at funerals and stuff. I probably would get the willys cartin' some carcass off to the morgue not to mention all the blood and poop and phlegm and stuff.....
Definately sounds like you need to reconsider.
Jul 12, '03I personally cannot belive why people would drink and drive when there are other alternatives. There really is no excuse for these kinds of things. And I don't know how American things run down there, so I guess I'm no help!
Jul 12, '03I'm thinking about just shining the whole nursing thing because it sounds like it might just be way too ugly with the death stuff and all that. I hate looking at dead people like at funerals and stuff. I probably would get the willys cartin' some carcass off to the morgue not to mention all the blood and poop and phlegm and stuff.
Jul 12, '03"I'm thinking about just shining the whole nursing thing because it sounds like it might just be way too ugly with the death stuff and all that. I hate looking at dead people like at funerals and stuff. I probably would get the willys cartin' some carcass off to the morgue not to mention all the blood and poop and phlegm and stuff."
This poster MUST be a sad joke, with all of his/her compassion nursing dosn't sound like the right career for you,I know I would not want you to take care of me or my family.
Jul 12, '03Originally posted by sbn8tv
I guarantee that if you go to dinner and drink three glasses of wine you could get a DUI but does that make you a bad person?
No one, ever.
And it really is as simple as that. You have, on THREE occasions in your life, been caught acting with with complete disregard for human life. Driving while impaired is no different from firing a loaded gun in public. You may not hit someone the first time, or the second or third, but eventually someone's life is going to be destroyed.
Personally, I think you never should have been given the chance to get a third DUI, your licence should have been revoked permanently after the second. Obviously you did not learn from your second and you are showing no remorse over the third. You only regret having been caught and having your dream of becoming a nurse challenged.
If you even are allowed to enter nursing school, I really hope that you get some help beforehand. You say you have the "gene"- alcholism is a disease, and while it can't be cured, it can be treated. Get help, regardless.
I speak from experience- sobriety is enlightening.
Jul 13, '03I never thought you were an ass! In fact I would venture to say you probably are a really good person. I just feel you should step back, slow down and face this situation in a more concrete way. Don't fix the problem with a bandaid just to get into nursing school. Face this whole mess head on the RIGHT way. Many hours of therapy, hard work at community service (preferably in an area that snaps you into attention with the devastation that alcohol can cause) a homeless shelter, a nursing home, etc etc. Do not give up and hang your head like a lost wounded puppy. Get some brass nuguts and fight for your dream. Just do do it in a strong sensible smart way. Do it the right way.......cut the wishy washy remarks as well (not funny) we do a whole hell of a lot more for these patients than can ever be put into words besides some day if you don't stop drinking and driving you could be the carcass on the cart that we are cleaning up the phlegm, poop, and vomit off of.
Jul 13, '03sbn8tv:
- Been reading through this thread and thinking about what my response would be.
- I think you are one selfish little b*tch/b*stard who should have their rear-end hung in jail for the next 50 years. There... I said it !!!
- First, don't even think about being a nurse. You have a problem and need to get help.
- You won't even make it through A&P 101 without getting boozed up some night. Will you drive home that night? Who knows? Not even you know.
- You will NEVER make it through nursing school. You are taking a seat from someone who might have.
- Personally, I hope the judge throws the book at you. I hope you do jail time, I hope the nursing school throws you the hell out, I hope you never are allowed to drive again, and I hope you damned well never become a nurse.
- You are a danger to both yourself and society.
- I drove a tractor-trailer for 5 years. I've personally seen what happens when you drink and drive. It's not only the nurses on this board that have to deal with drunk drivers.
I'd like to tell you a story:
- I saw one day on US-22 near Blairsville, PA, where a group of drunk teenagers get "T-Boned" by a loaded coal truck. The coal truck was about 1/4 mile in front of me... I was following behind. Had a load of auto parts out of Chicago, IL.
- I saw the VW Beetle racing out towards the highway wondering how the hell they were going to stop in time.
- Next think I know, there was a big bang -- metal flying everywhere. Me standing on the brakes. The coal truck going out through a field.
- When I got stopped --- it takes forever to stop a 40 ton rig...
- I saw the blood running down the street. The mangled corpses in the wreckage. You wouldn't even know they were human beings.
- Saw the beer cans/bottles all over the car. Looks like they had just been to the beer distributer as there were several cases in the back.
- The guy driving the coal rig actually did wet himself - and was shaking so bad it looked like he was having seizures. He was the only one the ambulance crew could help.
- I too was shaking -- hell I am shaking now as I write this.
- What was supposed to be an enjoyable weekend for me and my family (I was about 50 miles from Altoona, PA (home)- hauling a load from Chicago over to NYC) --- turned into a major nightmare.
- Took the cops about 8 hours to clean the mess up.
- Yeah, I still wake up somenights thinking about it. I can't imagine what the coal truck driver in front of me must be going through. And this occured 12 or 13 years ago in 1989.
- Although I was fortunate on that day not to have hit the VW, I have been hit 3 times by drunk/stoned drivers during my 5 year trucking career. Fortunately, no one was hurt (don't know how) in any of those accidents.
- Without getting into a personal attack on you...
- Think about how utterly selfish you are. You need to seriously reconsider your life and get your act together.
- A DUI -- 1st, 2nd, and now a 3rd one is not something you just blow off and say "oops".
- Sure, it took courage (I guess) to post your story here. You wanted advice...well you got it.
- Finally, note that I actually signed my name to my post!!! Yes, I am a real person and yes this really is me!!!!!
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