does it really matter where you got your degree from? - page 4

Basically, how serious do employers take it when reviewing where a nurse got there education. For example, assume my situation where I would get an ADN from a community college then a BSN from a... Read More

  1. by   CapeCodMermaid
    Quote from Nolander
    Basically, how serious do employers take it when reviewing where a nurse got there education. For example, assume my situation where I would get an ADN from a community college then a BSN from a somewhat well known university, how would employers see that as compared to someone who had a straight BSN from a large, well known public university?
    It would probably matter more that you don't know the difference between there and their. No one usually asks where you've gone to school as long as you pass the boards.
  2. by   passionflower
    Quote from tothepointeLVN
    I think the rule of thumb is in bad times or fierce job competition it matters in good times it doesn't

    Just do the best you can with the resources available to you.
    Absolutely the truth.
  3. by   Hygiene Queen
    CNAs do learn some critical thinking as they gain experience, as does anyone in any type of a position over time.
    We were taught not to be robots and to think.
    It comes easier to some than others, no matter what.

    It is a good prep for one who wishes to become a nurse.

    It's greatest advantage is that it gets your foot in the door, gets you comfortable with pts, allows you to work alongside the nurse, learn how to prioritize, multitask, familiarize yourself with the healthcare setting, learn about infection control and safety, learn how to handle difficult pts, and gives you a chance to show off your killer work ethic (if you have it).
    I could go on.

    In the several places I have worked, I was offered a job after nursing school. I could think on my feet and was no dummy. They never would have known what kind of a person or worker I was had they not already seen what I could do in the role of a CNA.

    Nothing but a benefit for me.




    Quote from ohiostudent'RN
    RN= CRITICAL THINKING.

    Last time i checked, they did not teach critical thinking at a 2 week CNA certification course..

    So...No.. the two jobs do not overlap. an IV start does not a nurse make...
  4. by   Do-over
    Quote from ThePrincessBride
    That is scary. No offense, but your school is not accredited? And people are hiring you? That scares the crap out of me.
    NLNAC is not required, and there are many CCs that are not so accredited (at least around here). The state is the entity that decides which programs are "worthy" to have students sit for NCLEX. I selected my school carefully, and went in knowing (and not really caring) about NLNAC. It is voluntary.

    My former school is one of the largest, and one of the oldest in the area. Entry is HIGHLY competitive, our grads are eagerly hired into some of the largest and most well-known hospitals in our state and region.

    So, not really so scary. I have my moments, but I wouldn't call myself a scary nurse....
    Last edit by Do-over on Dec 8, '11 : Reason: attempt to evade grammar police =)
  5. by   Do-over
    As for nurse aide experience first, well it helped me get a job at my hospital at least. Pickings were very slim, and there were not any RN openings on my floor... My manager apparently liked me (and my work ethic, etc) because she worked pretty diligently to get me a job on another floor.

    I don't know how much it helped me as a nurse, perhaps I am better at basic care than other new nurses that did not have that experience, but those are the skills that come pretty quickly.
  6. by   nursel56
    Quote from Do-over
    As for nurse aide experience first, well it helped me get a job at my hospital at least. Pickings were very slim, and there were not any RN openings on my floor... My manager apparently liked me (and my work ethic, etc) because she worked pretty diligently to get me a job on another floor.

    I don't know how much it helped me as a nurse, perhaps I am better at basic care than other new nurses that did not have that experience, but those are the skills that come pretty quickly.
    ,
    It seems like it would give a person a head start on time management, aka I have a whole lot of stuff to do in x amount of time, what first?!? The list of "whats" isn't the same but getting past that mind-goes-blank freakout we often encounter in new situations would be helpful, observing what approaches work best with irate family members, and learning what it feels like to be the one delegated to. The RNs who post here who were CNAs first seem to have a better rapport with the CNAs, generally speaking. You can learn a ton from observing a really good CNA.
  7. by   Do-over
    Quote from nursel56
    ,
    It seems like it would give a person a head start on time management, aka I have a whole lot of stuff to do in x amount of time, what first?!? The list of "whats" isn't the same but getting past that mind-goes-blank freakout we often encounter in new situations would be helpful, observing what approaches work best with irate family members, and learning what it feels like to be the one delegated to. The RNs who post here who were CNAs first seem to have a better rapport with the CNAs, generally speaking. You can learn a ton from observing a really good CNA.
    Agreed, and I guess i did gain a lot by being there while the nurses did assessments, etc. I was an aide on an ortho floor so would often go in with the nurse to help turn, repo, change dressing, etc. while he or she assessed, etc. They all also knew I was in nursing school so they would usually go into teaching mode and explain everything, seek me out for procedures, etc.
  8. by   Purple_Scrubs
    No overlap between CNA and RN? Really? Let's look at vital signs.

    CNA Scope: Take vital signs. Recognize VS that are outside of parameters and notify RN.

    RN Scope: Take vital signs. Recognize VS that are outside of parameters, interpret and take action.

    Yes, the RN has more responsibility, more training and knowledge on what to do next, but to say there is NO overlap is just ridiculous. Just that fact that as a CNA you will learn about what is normal for vitals will help you in nursing school. I was not a CNA before I became a nurse, and I wish I'd had the opportunity. Many of the best nurses I know climbed the ranks from CNA to LVN to RN (and a few now to APN). Each level of knowledge builds on the previous.
  9. by   exit96
    Quote from mindlor
    even though cna exp has little to do with nursing
    WHAT? Seriously?
  10. by   rustynail
    I have noticed some minor differences between CCNE and NLNAC. NLNAC-accredited schools require you to take a College Chemistry course as a pre-requisite. CCNE-accredited schools are fine with high-school Chemistry or an Introductory Chemistry. I chose the easier Chem 101 and it came back to bite me when I couldn't apply for RN-to-BSN at a NLNAC-accredited school unless I took a College Chemistry course.

    That said, I started learning organic chemistry on my own via Khan Academy, it is awesome!

    Rusty
  11. by   mindlor
    Quote from exit96
    WHAT? Seriously?
    yup, seriously

    I will vigourously stand by my position on this....

    Flame on
  12. by   mindlor
    Quote from Purple_Scrubs
    No overlap between CNA and RN? Really? Let's look at vital signs.

    CNA Scope: Take vital signs. Recognize VS that are outside of parameters and notify RN.

    RN Scope: Take vital signs. Recognize VS that are outside of parameters, interpret and take action.

    Yes, the RN has more responsibility, more training and knowledge on what to do next, but to say there is NO overlap is just ridiculous. Just that fact that as a CNA you will learn about what is normal for vitals will help you in nursing school. I was not a CNA before I became a nurse, and I wish I'd had the opportunity. Many of the best nurses I know climbed the ranks from CNA to LVN to RN (and a few now to APN). Each level of knowledge builds on the previous.
    Once again you are spouting disinformation and not taking the time to read. Where did anyone say there was NO overlap? Go back and read...

    I said, LITTLE overlap
  13. by   Purple_Scrubs
    Quote from mindlor
    Once again you are spouting disinformation and not taking the time to read. Where did anyone say there was NO overlap? Go back and read...

    I said, LITTLE overlap
    Um, maybe you should go back and read. I never quoted you. OhioStudentRN DID state that there is NO overlap. Taking this a bit personal, aren't we?

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