counting days as birth control tool - page 4
I just don't get it. How exactly do you count days to determine "safe days" and "unsafe days"? Please make it as easy as possible to understand:imbar... Read More
- 0Feb 5, '06 by MarySunshineQuote from DutchgirlRNI certainly wasn't calling anyone here any names. You've been able to help a lot of women get pregnant with this knowledge that you have, and you would be a poor health care provider, imho, if you didn't have it. That's all I'm saying.Really ignorant is a bold statement. In the year 2006 the vast majority of women of child bearing age are not interested in natural family planning. I'd like to know what the actual percentage is. I educated my self regarding natural family planning 30 years ago because it was something I was interested in. During 30 years of nursing, 12 years working in Women's Health I've never had a woman ask me about natural family planning. Plenty of women want to know how to get pregnant and I used the info to teach them the signs of ovulation for the purpose of getting pregnant but never to avoid pregnancy. Please don't be a name caller. Play nice.
I think "really ignorant" is a fair description of a women's health care provider who doesn't know about cervical mucous changes, temperature changes, luteal phases, etc. They're out there, believe it or not. When I got my diaphragm I was specifically told by my NP that I should take my temp every morning and when I saw it go up, then we should use a condom for a few days after that, just to be safe. That is VERY WRONG information, because once you've seen the temperature spike, you've already ovulated. Maybe "misinformed" sounds nicer than "ignorant", but they're really the same thing. I don't think she was a stupid woman.
Anyway, I'm passionate about women knowing about their bodies and their health, so I'm sorry if I came off too strong.Last edit by MarySunshine on Feb 5, '06
- 0Feb 5, '06 by DutchgirlRNQuote from MarySunshineCool. I don't agree with ignorant being the same as misinformed but I won't argue that point, it's not important. I agree with women knowing about their bodies. It's shameful how little some women know.Maybe "misinformed" sounds nicer than "ignorant", but they're really the same thing. I don't think she was a stupid woman.
Anyway, I'm passionate about women knowing about their bodies and their health, so I'm sorry if I came off too strong.
- 0Feb 5, '06 by GooeyRNQuote from MarySunshineI agree with this. I am a practicing Catholic and I use Natural Family Planning. (NFP) The rhythm method is outdated and very unreliable. I take my temperature the same time every day and check cervical mucus. My cycles aren't super regular, either. It is working quite well for me. no suprises yet. I used it in reverse in order to get pregnant. Worked like a charm! It is simple to do, and only takes a few minutes a day for simple assessments. Do a search on NFP, not rhythm method and it should help you. It is actually more effective than using condoms with spermacide if used consistently. If anyone would like an explanation of why Catholics do not use birth control and only use NFP, I would be happy to explain it by private message. There are several reasons why. I don't want to start a religious debate.There's a HUGE difference between the rhythm method (abstaining during certain calender days) and charting your temperature and cervical mucous changes ("Fertility Awareness Method" or "Natural Family Planning"). One is highly unreliable and the other can give a very accurate picture of your body's fertility in a given day. I second SmilingBluEyes' book recommendation.
Charting your fertility is accepted by the Catholic church, and is relatively easy to learn and intuitive once you get the hang of it. If used correctly, it can be as effective as the BCP. HOWEVER, I don't think it can be taught in a short conversation. It requires some careful explanation, practice, and plenty of time for questions. Good luck to you!Last edit by GooeyRN on Feb 5, '06
- 0Feb 5, '06 by marilynmomWe practiced NFP for about 4 years and I enjoyed it, got pregnant the time we tried and stayed non-pregnant (lol) the rest of the time. I think it is a great method and I wish more women and health care providers were educated about it. I actually had a OB/GYN ask me why I had so much cervical fluid when I was getting my pap done a couple years ago. I told her I was fertile at the time and she looked at me funny and asked me how I knew that She really had no clue!
I started using the NuvaRing close to a year ago because I just didn't have the commitment to follow NFP anymore and was honest with myself about that. I just KNEW I was going to get pregnant because I wasn't taking the time to check cervical fluid, etc. I just kept forgetting to check it...lol.
Anyways, it's a good method to use for those who can not use hormonal birth control and dont like barrier methods (yuck, I can't stand those personally) or who want to know the best time to get pregnant!