Are you in Nursing for the Caring or the Cash?? Be Honest - page 6

hello i am currently in nursing school and the weirdest thing is how future nurses talk about how they are going to be getting paid!! it's as if caring is not involved in their frame of mind, this... Read More

  1. by   roxannekkb
    Quote from lisadlpn2brn
    hello i am currently in nursing school and the weirdest thing is how future nurses talk about how they are going to be getting paid!! it's as if caring is not involved in their frame of mind, this type of mentality is not going to help the nursing shortage it's only going to aide it because as we know we do not get paid for our actual services, but this younger generation feel since it is a shortage this is the field to go and make some quick money, so i'm curious and please be honest what are you in it for, caring or cash?
    yes, they should be concerned about how much they will paid--and so should you. why should caring and being paid well be contradictory terms? why shouldn't people who work in a profession like nursing, where the work can be hard and dirty, and you are entrusted with the lives of so many, be paid poorly? why should nurses say, "oh, i'm in it for the caring and therefore it doesn't matter what they pay me. caring professions don't have to come with good pay."

    why should a baseball player make millions and a nurse make the same as a supermarket checker (yes, very true in some regions). if nursing was extremely well paid, and working conditions tolerable, then there wouldn't be these chronic shortages. there are many "caring" professions, and the people make a lot more money than nurses.

    sorry, but i just cannot stand the martyrish attitude about how "we're in it for the caring and not the money." hospitals encourage that attitude, it serves them well. but it surely doesn't help patients or nurses as a profession.
  2. by   Drysolong
    Quote from Daddoo1
    Weird how the younger (I call them the me generation) think, isn't it. I am a 47 year old male GPN (graduate practical nurse) waiting to take my NCLEX and I am totally in to the people I am caring for at this time. My residents keep asking me if I am going to leave them when I pass my boards and I keep telling them that I will leave when everyone who is living there that likes me is gone. That makes them all smile. I love taking care of my residents and am frequently getting into trouble with the facility administrater because I tell her when I think something needs to be done to make the residents home better for
    them.
    So you are working for free or donating your entire salary?

    I love people and want to help them and I also want to make enough (or as much money as I can) to help my family and myself. As a aspiring nurse of the "older" generation, I also desire to be a productive citizen by contributing my time, expertise and money to various charitable causes and organizations. It is very hard to accomplish anything in this society without money. Yours or somebody else's.

    Anyone working exclusively for money will be unhappy and a failure at anything they do.
  3. by   oneLoneNurse
    Sorry, I went into nursing because the province offered me a package I couldn't believe. The union had gotten a big bad increase the year before my signing. I am now back in the computer field which I love. I use my nursing skills every minute of the day. The combination is wonderful.

    I know nursing made me a better person. More patient, empathetic and humble with more nursing/medical knowledge. Its been good to me( 20 years ).
  4. by   TechieNurse
    Hi All
    I went into nursing because I liked biology, technology and learning new things.
    I found it to be a growing profession with lots of opportunity and flexibility.
    I liked the whole 'Nursing is an Art and a Science' thing appealing.

    To be honest, I was happiest when my patients were sleeping or in comas :zzzzz and I could check, adjust and calibrate their monitors! Luckily, I worked nights (and I transitioned away from the bedside to more of a technical position!)

    We all want to feel that our time is valuable and we all want to be fairly compensated for our work. It's just hard to put a price tag on it...
  5. by   Dixiedi
    Quote from lisadlpn2brn
    hello i am currently in nursing school and the weirdest thing is how future nurses talk about how they are going to be getting paid!! it's as if caring is not involved in their frame of mind, this type of mentality is not going to help the nursing shortage it's only going to aide it because as we know we do not get paid for our actual services, but this younger generation feel since it is a shortage this is the field to go and make some quick money, so i'm curious and please be honest what are you in it for, caring or cash?
    a full time paycheck after being without for a good while is exciting to anybody. and, there are those who go into nursing for the pay and/or to find a "rich" doctor to marry. they never stick arond long and most of us, though we do appreciate a paycheck are here because we love what we do.

    personallyl, i love what i do, but i sure wouldn't do it for free!
  6. by   LovePeaceJoy
    Quote from roxannekkb
    Yes, they should be concerned about how much they will paid--and so should you. Why should caring and being paid well be contradictory terms? Why shouldn't people who work in a profession like nursing, where the work can be hard and dirty, and you are entrusted with the lives of so many, be paid poorly? Why should nurses say, "Oh, I'm in it for the caring and therefore it doesn't matter what they pay me. Caring professions don't have to come with good pay."

    Why should a baseball player make millions and a nurse make the same as a supermarket checker (yes, very true in some regions). If nursing was extremely well paid, and working conditions tolerable, then there wouldn't be these chronic shortages. There are many "caring" professions, and the people make a lot more money than nurses.

    Sorry, but I just cannot stand the martyrish attitude about how "we're in it for the caring and not the money." Hospitals encourage that attitude, it serves them well. But it surely doesn't help patients or nurses as a profession.
    AMEN!!

    I do think I understand both sides of the argument. I am from NYC and from this board I realize that nurses do get paid well in this area. However, I have seen nurses work 10 million shifts for the money and end up just being miserable to their PATIENTS, coworkers and families. I know how doing a job that you hate can make you a bitter person. I've been there. :stone I think some nurses that warn people to not do the job for the money know the realities of the job and what if can do to a person emotionally and physically in the long run. It does take a good measure of compassion, patience, and integrity to do the job well; especially hospital floor nursing. I don't think if you have some amount of those three things, your PATIENTS will suffer.

    On the side of the argument, if I wanted to do something for free, I would be a volunteer (which I have been in a hospital ). No, nurses shouldn't just do it for the money; however, they should expect and demand to be compensated well for the level of skill and responsibility they have . No one complains when doctors expect to be compensated well and aren't they supposed to be in their chosen profession because they CARE about people???
  7. by   tfrankern
    I have worked in just about every area of nursing including ICU,CCU,SICU,ER NICU TELE, PICU, home health and finally hospice. I've done lots of agency and had experience with traveling as well. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY!!! If nurses actually got paid for what we do and not for what we are supposed to do for the goodness of other people the healthcare industry would not be able to afford us. Think about what you do in every day at your job and compare that to a regular 8-5, M-F job. Most people in other fields do much less for the same if not much more than nurses.
    Now that isn't to say that nursing isn't flexible and you can go do agency and make fast cash when you are in a bind. But, when you get a little older, those long, hard agency shifts get more difficult. So, you end up finding a place where you can be of service, be fulfilled in your career and get paid for it. I make a living but there is nothing left over and no savings to be had. As for benefits, most of the places I've worked in nursing, the healthcare field in general has sucky benefits. Oh, i've got insurance ok, but the copays are ridiculous, especially when I'm caring for people who get everything for free or that have wonderful benefits from their employer etc.
    Generally, I'm happy with what I do and probably wouldn't do anything else but I do get on my soapbox about the disrespect that we are shown and the lack of adequate compensation. Do it for the love of it, not for the cash, you will burn out quickly if you do.
  8. by   EarthChild1130
    I am in school now, and I chose nursing for several reasons...I got a degree in English the first time around, and I couldn't find a job with it if I tried! I don't regret having it, because it's cut my nursing school time in half...but maybe I should've gone to nursing school first!

    Secondly, I like interacting with people...I like talking to people, watching people, and helping people...I plan on going into psych nursing when I graduate, and I've always found anything to do with psych fascinating (my minor is in psychology for my 1st degree). I feel that I can really help change the course of some of these folks' mental illnesses, and really help change the way the world views those with mental illness.

    I also needed a job that can travel...my husband is active duty military, and we move every 4 years...I need a job that can go with me, so to speak...

    And I don't really think the money's all that bad either! Not considering the best job I've ever had in my life was $7.00 an hour! Going to even $18 an hour is a 180 degree turn around for me!

    In the end, it's something I always wanted to do, and I'm glad I'm finally doing it!
  9. by   Agnus
    Quote from TweetiePieRN
    Pay out here is really good for nurses (RNs)! We start out at over $30 (a few dollars more) an hour and if we work extra shifts...we get $15 dollars an hour on top of the base pay!!
    Where are you in CA. Please, I am not necessairly asking you to reveal the city, if you think that migh compromise your confidentiality on this board. Just what part of CA.

    For example you can be a vague with your answer as North, south, centeral.

    I will be contracting work for myself in The Sacramento area and need to know where to start in my negotiations.

    I am guessing you are in southern CA as I don't think starting wages are quite that high in Sacramento region.
  10. by   freelancer
    My Answer will be very brief. "Nursing prof is having the skill to heal, and the spirit to care" If you are here just for the promising paycheck, LEAVE!!! You are just putting a smear in our field :angryfire :imbar :stone
  11. by   BRAGGY
    an interesting question you put forward, "are you in it for the cash"? in short i say certainly, if there is a buck to be made, why not? i care about people, that is why i became a nurse, but to be totally honest the most important person out of all the people i have cared for in 9 plus years of nursing is me me and me! i do not support those nurses who believe or think that because they have chosen a caring profession that they should sacrifice their personal safety and or finacial security. i don't know, any other profession that may support that particular doctrine. nursing is a very hard job, and in many cases thankless, with a high degree of occupational exposure to hazards in the workplace. thankfully there are still nurses coming into the profession, considering all! as an essential service, nurses are the lowest paid profession with one of the most important of occupational roles in society. good luck to your colleagues who would like to make a buck out of nursing.


    braggy from down under:angryfire
    Quote from lisadlpn2brn
    hello i am currently in nursing school and the weirdest thing is how future nurses talk about how they are going to be getting paid!! it's as if caring is not involved in their frame of mind, this type of mentality is not going to help the nursing shortage it's only going to aide it because as we know we do not get paid for our actual services, but this younger generation feel since it is a shortage this is the field to go and make some quick money, so i'm curious and please be honest what are you in it for, caring or cash?
  12. by   roxannekkb
    Quote from freelancer
    My Answer will be very brief. "Nursing prof is having the skill to heal, and the spirit to care" If you are here just for the promising paycheck, LEAVE!!! You are just putting a smear in our field :angryfire :imbar :stone
    So then perhaps nurses should work for free? Or just accept a pittance, and maybe some bread and water to live on? Does being a nurse mean one should not have a decent standard of living, or does being a nurse mean that you must be a self-sacrificing martyr?

    I'm sorry, but attitudes like your help keep nursing in the downtrodden state that it's in. Nurses have fought long and hard to get pay raises, improved working conditions, and so on. The profession does not need martyrs who feel that one can live by caring alone. Tell that to your landlord, or the store where you buy your food.
  13. by   Dixiedi
    Quote from Agnus
    Where are you in CA. Please, I am not necessairly asking you to reveal the city, if you think that migh compromise your confidentiality on this board. Just what part of CA.

    For example you can be a vague with your answer as North, south, centeral.

    I will be contracting work for myself in The Sacramento area and need to know where to start in my negotiations.

    I am guessing you are in southern CA as I don't think starting wages are quite that high in Sacramento region.
    I have a friend out there who was thrilled to death to buy a 700 sq ft apt for nearly something like 100,000 and that wsa 7 or 8 years ago!

    30 bucks an hour less than the 20 I get here

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