are they just waiting for an assault??!?

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this may come across as mindless venting but it really isnt......

I work on a med surg unit that of course gets many patients of the non med surg variety, I have come to accept this but right now myself and my fellow nurses are dealing with something impossible.

patient has a major psych history , on a combination of all kinds of antipsychotics etc nothing working , he is also a COPD'er , which is why he was first admitted to our floor,okay I understand that but now the psych thing is the more pressing of the two issues. Honestly medically we are doing NOTHING for this patient,he refuses all treatments and meds and even vital sign assessments, MD covering him medically has seemingly given up after taking social works advice and discharging him home months ago only for him to have beat the heck out of his wife and return the next day to us......

I have had this patient for months now, social work says they are trying to place him and all of that but why do the poor nurses have to suffer with this? I usually am assigned to this patient because people are delusional enough to think I can handle him for some reason...thats fine but last night he wasnt even my patient and he was following me around and he threw hot soup at his sitter and a full pitcher of water at me.... which of course it soaked me thru and thru, this patients decline has been so obvious to everyone in the allied health that I cannot figure why psych wont take him. They claim its because he is MRSA positive but they have private rooms and have taken isolation psych patients from mental institutions before.....I brought up my concerns (I'll admit that I am now afraid of this patient) to the incharge RN who apparently relayed it to our new U/A .....nothing was dealt with and I'm annoyed because they have me taking care of him all next week. I have tried to explain that I feel he is focused on me and that his violent outbursts have become worse- uncontrollable even - and none of our other medically sick patients are getting any rest at nights because of this one person.

I feel like everyone is waiting for this guy to hurt someone and knowing my luck since I seem to have him as my patient all the time, it will probably be me........

I dont know what to do, I completely dont want to go to work - and that bothers me cuz I usually dont feel this way....

Originally posted by nursegoodguy

Document and report everything he does to his doc and make out any sort of behavior incident reports...

And if that doesn't work, Guiseppe and Rusty will come and bust his but for messing with you...:cool: :devil:

Specializes in Corrections, Psych, Med-Surg.

Having worked med-surg, psych, and corrections in the past, you got some excellent advice above. I would only add that this is not simple assault, but assault and battery. Don't wait for the next incident, make a police report now, formally advise (in writing) your supervisor that this patient is a danger to anyone on your ward who deals with him, that you refuse to take the assignment, and (if you can get some cooperation) have it signed by all the RNs on your staff. Regardless, you are now aware of the danger, and if you choose to re-enter the dangerous situation, you can hardly blame the institution which can alway say "Well, if she REALLY thought is was so dangerous, she wouldn't have come back. So obviously she didn't think it was dangerous. And so why should we have?"

My best advice, in addition to doing all that, is look for another job with a different facility. If this one cares so little about your feedback, they care very little about you and this won't be the last such problem you'll encounter with them. At least in a corrections facililty that is reasonably well-run, you always have a guard/officer/deputy with you for protection.

Specializes in Community Health Nurse.

Amen, sjoe! Couldn't agree with you more! :)

once again my heroes have come to the rescue!

I love you all ......

I did a lot of thinking about this situation last night/this morning and I typed up a nice pretty detailed letter that I will hand deliver to the head of nursing practice, to my unit administrator and to the chief of medicine......

I will also refuse this patient assignment on Monday night and will call the unit administrator on call if my in charge nurse on the floor gives me any kind of strife for refusing this patient.

I cannot ethically morally and comfortably take care of this person anymore and to say that I'm not frustrated and annoyed that I've had him as my patient for as long as I have would be a horrible terrible lie.....

there are nurses who have somehow managed to never have this patient on their assignment, interesting innit??

anyway if I still get no support I will speak with the union who are very active in my workplace these days :)

once again thanks for all your advice and support, whenever I'm beating my head against the wall with frustration everyone here seems to be able to talk some sense into me, *Hugs* :kiss

on that happy note, I do have ben affleck to think of, j - lo who?

Specializes in Community Health Nurse.

Happeewendy.....SOCK IT TO 'EM, babygirl! :kiss

Let us know how things turn out. Meanwhile.......go rent yourself a Ben Affleck movie and get lost in it all weekend! :kiss

Good luck and hugs Wendy.

I expect to hear early next week that your plan of action has resulted in this patient being moved to an appropriate place. It is unbelievable what nurses are expected to contend with!

good job wendy! stand up for yourself! and....j lo and ben a was (is) weird to me. wasn't that a little quick moving chris out the picture one day then the next ole bennie? well, guess we can save that thread for the jlo/ben website!

take care wends!

s_bsn

What about calling in a "Sitter?" Tell your people to call me and I'll come and sit with this PT and keep'em on ice 'till he mellows out.

You be safe, happywendy, and listen to your instincts which are rightfully telling you to back off. Anticipate any hostile moves the PT can make, and walk lightly so as to be in a position to step out if the PT gets all bugged out. I wish I could offer more advice. Protect yourself, and listen to your visceral organs when they tell you something. :-)

Specializes in correctional, psych, ICU, CCU, ER.

Wait..did I miss something?? You have a union and we're having this conversation?? Why wasn't the first call to them?? What are you paying union dues for, if they aren't solving these problems for you???

I agree with jail, allow your union rep. to assist in your complaint. I forgot about this in my last post, now non-union.

Specializes in ER.

I would like to add that when he threatens others he is an immediate candidate for chemical and physical restraints. Also would call the police to stand by the room for your own protection. And all this can be done by the nurse on the floor- with MD order when appropriate. Drug him up and tie him down. And let the police send large bills to admin for security.

Specializes in Critical Care,Recovery, ED.

Wendy,

Please let us know how this tale turns out. Also could you please clarify if your facility is currently unionized or are people in the process of trying to organize your facility.

best wishes

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