**nurses Who Eat Their Young Should Be Kicked To The Curb***

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We are in the realm of evidence based practice where nursing "traditions' have little value. This should translate over to the tradition of nurses who eat their young. We've all met them..usually middle aged with no significant other who pride themselves in being tough. Their attitudes are reflected in their slovenly appearances and of course they are great hands on nurses since they have little else in their worlds.

NP programs are no different. I've had clinical experiences with physicians and NP's alike and the physicians are professional, curteous and will correct me without the underlying insult. Most of the NP's have been rude or have ignored me and one went off on me. I threatened to sue the school if they didn't change my preceptor and they changed my assignment that day.

Those nurses (and NP's) are the reason that half the world doesn't view nurses as professionals. MBA's do not belittle students, interns or new employees. Neither do engineers or any other professionals. Many bright nurses have left the field because of these low lifes.

We should all make a concerted effort to stop this behavior in ourselves and other nurses. If they are rude or belittling, they should be told that if they want to be considered a professional...then act, dress and behave like one. If they don't listen, then administrators should be told and if necessary, they should be let go since they are making a mockery of the profession.

If you are young and starting out and your preceptor is a schmuck to you, then tell her to start looking and acting like a professional, report her to your supervisor or administration. Don't be intimidated and don't take it. It's time these "tough cookies" were kicked to the curb where they belong.

In today's world of evidence based practice...this has got to go.

Specializes in Me Surge.

Your characterization of nurses who are "middle-aged, slovenly appearanced and without a signifcant other" was prejudicial and offensive. Since you feel that you are repeatedly assaulted by these middle-aged slovenly people maybe you need to look within yourself to see why.

Specializes in Lie detection.
Sometimes I wonder if it's really that nurses eat their young or it's just the new nurses are being treated like newbies in any other profession and just can't take that the real world of nursing isn't full of angels called to their profession by a higher power. Lawyers are mean to new lawyers. Doctors are mean to new doctors. It's life. I had some crappy days in nursing school, I had some crappy days as a new nurse. And guess what, I've got crappy days now as an experienced one. But every job I've been in, I've had someone that was mean to me when I was new. I think it's only in nursing that we expected to be coddled as newbies.

I think you make a good point. Some (note I said some) may need the coddling, and when their expectations are not met, cry foul. Now this is certainly NOT true of everyone, and their are a few bad apples, but I truely have not seen as many as I hear about on this forum. It just amazes me!

I don't consider being treated as an adult as coddling. That many nurses "eat their young" my be a stereotype but, sadly to say, it's an earned one. Everyone has heard about it and many have experienced it. A person on this thread said that it was part of the nursing culture. Since when is bad behavior accepted as part of a "culture"?

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You too make a good point and no, there are plenty that expect to be treated as an adult and yet run across the bad apples I mentioned above.

However, in my opinion I really have not seen this overwhelming YOUNG EATING phenomenon going on, I just haven't. I had wonderful professors in both my ADN and BSN programs. I also had prettty good preceptors in my various jobs. I have also seen many, many people being precepted and oriented over the last 10 years. I can recall maybe 2 incidences of bullying. I know it happens I just don't think it's so awful. I also think that again we only hear one side of the story here on All Nurses.:p

Personally I find this posters comments an insult to me and all other middle age nurses who are doing nother more than trying to survive this world ourselves. If she is looking for respect I suggest she start giving it because in this world you get what you give. Being almost 50 years old and working in the field since the time she probably was born I have worked long hard hours to earn the respect that I have from my coworkers, managers, and doctors, and to have her insulting remarks describing me as a middle age, "sloven" individual goes beyond tolerance. No matter what her age, no matter new nurse/old nurse if you were on my unit and treated older people this way you wouldn't need to be eaten, you would be left alone to self destruct.

Personally, if anyone talked on the board about a religion or race like this it would not be tolerated and I think it is disrespectable to allow older nurses to be referred in such a manner without anything substantial to back it up. If this is true of older nurses then give me proof otherwise shut up and quit insulting people who work hard to survive the job market and are the first ones the younger ones come running to when they don't know what to do when their patients go bad, or better yet when they don't know when to call the doctor so they won't be yelled at.

Suzishunshine if you want to make nursing a better place I suggest you start with the person that looks back at you in the mirror.

I think it was time this thread was closed and any other thread that shows this much disrespect for their own older members.

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
My original thread was closed for whatever reason. I have been in the profession for over twenty years and I've met middle aged nurses or NP's who enjoys humiliating new nurses, orientees or students. Tell me, what other professional does this out of "tradition"?....answer...NONE.

MBA's don't insult their interns or orientees. Engineers are not put through a "right of passage" by middle aged women with very little else in their lives but their jobs.

In the land of evidence based practice, nursing research and emphasis on professionalism..this has to go. If you are a new grad, a new orientee or whatever and you are humiliated, being treated rudely or maligned, then go to administration. Don't take that nonsense.

We will never be recognized as professinals unless this behavior stops.

First off, the "nurses eat their young" phrase is a urine-poor excuse for urine-poor behavior.

Secondly, saying "Engineers are not put through a "right of passage" by middle aged women with very little else in their lives but their jobs. " is no less insulting than any other urine-poor behavior, not to MENTION it's a good example of what not to say. Seems pretty hypocritical actually, that the OP is talking about people who are mean, yet, well, lol.

Third, be the change you want to see.

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

Respect is a two-way street. Give some if you want some.

I agree with the poster who said maybe you need to take a look in the mirror if you feel so disrespected by so many. Sometimes, the reasons why are within your control.

Good luck to you.

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
Your characterization of nurses who are "middle-aged, slovenly appearanced and without a signifcant other" was prejudicial and offensive. Since you feel that you are repeatedly assaulted by these middle-aged slovenly people maybe you need to look within yourself to see why.

And i agree with this as well. If someone thought those things about me, i highly doubt that i would speak to that person except only when i had to.

Yet i'm sure i'd be accused of being a nurse-nosher. :rolleyes:

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.

That many nurses "eat their young" my be a stereotype but, sadly to say, it's an earned one.

Sorry, i just think that's a load of crap.

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

Also before you run to Administration with your complaints:

You may want to help yourself a bit first. Maybe you could read some books about self-assertion and/or go to assertiveness training classes. It's amazing how you can change your environment and the way others treat you by being assertive, not defensive or angry. I learned all about this in the military, where you get the Mother of all "rites of passage" (try being one of 3 females in an aircraft engine repair shop of about 150 men!!!). Having a really good sense of self and humor got me through and I even came to enjoy my work there. Nursing has been similar, but really a cakewalk next to that environment for me!

Life is too short to be all angry and defensive and hate a whole group for a few people who may have mistreated you. Try changing your thoughts to change your life, like one wise member here has said.

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

http://www.bullyonline.org

if you really want some help with true bullying/mobbing at the workplace.

Also recommend self-assertiveness training/classes and books. The difference you make can be a matter of attitude.

Specializes in Specializes in L/D, newborn, GYN, LTC, Dialysis.

PS: a resource for you if bullying is a problem in the workplace (lots of advice as to what to do about it and solve this problem):

http://www.bullyonline.org

good luck.

Tell me, what other professional does this out of "tradition"?....answer...NONE.

1) Medicine (MD/DO)

2) Veterinary Medicine (DVM/VMD/BVMS)

3) Veterinary Technology (CVT/LVT/RVT)

4) State Dept. of Transportation (Highway Depts)

5) US Armed Forces (Army/Navy Aviation)

6) Law Enforcement (Police/Sheriff/FBI)

Those are just the ones I have personal experience with. I know that some are trying to do away with this stereotype and I have to agree with the others that said nursing is not the only one.

I think instead of ...vigorously discussing... the does/doesn't nursing fit, we should instead concentrate on what we can do to change the image over all.

Specializes in Day Surgery/Infusion/ED.

I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF PEOPLE POSTING ABOUT THIS TIRED CLICHE. IT IS POISONOUS, DISRESPECTFUL, AND MOSTLY UNTRUE. IT NEEDS TO STOP. (And yes, I meant each and every capital letter in that post.)

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