**nurses Who Eat Their Young Should Be Kicked To The Curb***

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We are in the realm of evidence based practice where nursing "traditions' have little value. This should translate over to the tradition of nurses who eat their young. We've all met them..usually middle aged with no significant other who pride themselves in being tough. Their attitudes are reflected in their slovenly appearances and of course they are great hands on nurses since they have little else in their worlds.

NP programs are no different. I've had clinical experiences with physicians and NP's alike and the physicians are professional, curteous and will correct me without the underlying insult. Most of the NP's have been rude or have ignored me and one went off on me. I threatened to sue the school if they didn't change my preceptor and they changed my assignment that day.

Those nurses (and NP's) are the reason that half the world doesn't view nurses as professionals. MBA's do not belittle students, interns or new employees. Neither do engineers or any other professionals. Many bright nurses have left the field because of these low lifes.

We should all make a concerted effort to stop this behavior in ourselves and other nurses. If they are rude or belittling, they should be told that if they want to be considered a professional...then act, dress and behave like one. If they don't listen, then administrators should be told and if necessary, they should be let go since they are making a mockery of the profession.

If you are young and starting out and your preceptor is a schmuck to you, then tell her to start looking and acting like a professional, report her to your supervisor or administration. Don't be intimidated and don't take it. It's time these "tough cookies" were kicked to the curb where they belong.

In today's world of evidence based practice...this has got to go.

Specializes in Psych, Med/Surg, Home Health, Oncology.
Personally I find this posters comments an insult to me and all other middle age nurses who are doing nother more than trying to survive this world ourselves. If she is looking for respect I suggest she start giving it because in this world you get what you give. Being almost 50 years old and working in the field since the time she probably was born I have worked long hard hours to earn the respect that I have from my coworkers, managers, and doctors, and to have her insulting remarks describing me as a middle age, "sloven" individual goes beyond tolerance. No matter what her age, no matter new nurse/old nurse if you were on my unit and treated older people this way you wouldn't need to be eaten, you would be left alone to self destruct.

Personally, if anyone talked on the board about a religion or race like this it would not be tolerated and I think it is disrespectable to allow older nurses to be referred in such a manner without anything substantial to back it up. If this is true of older nurses then give me proof otherwise shut up and quit insulting people who work hard to survive the job market and are the first ones the younger ones come running to when they don't know what to do when their patients go bad, or better yet when they don't know when to call the doctor so they won't be yelled at.

Suzishunshine if you want to make nursing a better place I suggest you start with the person that looks back at you in the mirror.

I think it was time this thread was closed and any other thread that shows this much disrespect for their own older members.

I do so AGREE with this poster; I, too, found this post an insult & was very disturbed; After all, I am, perhaps even past middle-age; I am neither slovenly nor unkind to the younger nurses. I have a rewarding & full life away from my work place.

Oh, and yes, I do still work full-time night shift! I am right at the bedside each & every night; I have SEVERE arthritis, had 2 hip-replacements, PVD & DM. I'm still here. I work thru the nite without complaining every 2 minutes about how tired I am;

I often talk with DH about this----Why am I so old and can work just fine & still have a full life when Young Nurses in there 20's work, go home & sleep until it's time for work again & have no social life--cause they're TIRED!!

I'm so fed up with new nurses being out of school mere months talk about "BEING BURNED OUT!!". What a cop-out!!

I simply don't believe it.

I knew Nursing would be hard work when I set foot in that school over 40 years ago!! School was hard & nursing is hard-----------but SO REWARDING!!

You young people complain about me--but I'm the one you run to with questions or an IV to start or an N/G tube to pass!!

AMAZING!!

Sorry, but this thread really had me seeing RED!!:angryfire Sorry I rambled on!!

Mary Ann

Specializes in Lie detection.
Also before you run to Administration with your complaints:

You may want to help yourself a bit first. Maybe you could read some books about self-assertion and/or go to assertiveness training classes. It's amazing how you can change your environment and the way others treat you by being assertive, not defensive or angry.

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Great advice. Too many times people just want to run to the managers and cry foul without looking at themselves and maybe seeing what they could change within. Maybe "they" are not the problem!

1) Medicine (MD/DO)

2) Veterinary Medicine (DVM/VMD/BVMS)

3) Veterinary Technology (CVT/LVT/RVT)

4) State Dept. of Transportation (Highway Depts)

5) US Armed Forces (Army/Navy Aviation)

6) Law Enforcement (Police/Sheriff/FBI)

Those are just the ones I have personal experience with. I know that some are trying to do away with this stereotype and I have to agree with the others that said nursing is not the only one.

Thank you! Whoever thinks that nursing has the monopoly on bullying sure leads a sheltered life.

I'm grateful that in my 16 year career I haven't seen it that much and it's never happened to me personally.

Carry on.

Ok Tweety thanks for saying this because I thought that maybe I was going crazy :clown: . Either that or I had worked in REALLY overly friendly hospitals! I too just haven't seen a lot of this in 10+ years. I tend to think that people blow it a little out of proportion. Yes I do believe that it happens, just not like I read here. You would think this stuff goes on with like 1 out of 3 newbs from reading here. I think if it did happened that much we would be hearing about it OUTSIDE of this forum a LOT more.

Specializes in FNP, Peds, Epilepsy, Mgt., Occ. Ed.

There was a mention of NP's in this whole mess.

I will say that seeing "bullying" or "eating their young" on that level would, for me, be unusual.

I've been an NP for 10 years. As a student, my NP preceptors were great. Not every one was a "warm and fluffy" personality type, but not a one mistreated me in any way. The worst preceptor I had, by far, was a physician- and he didn't bully, just didn't let me do anything! None of my classmates had bad experiences with preceptors, either.

I've also taught NP students, and been the instructor who monitored their clinicals. I did run across one NP preceptor who tried to chew up and spit out a student. Interestingly, I ended up working with this person after I left teaching. She tried the same thing with me as a "newbie" in the clinic. As I say, she tried! Since I am one of those "middle-aged" types with lots of years of experience, she did not succeed. Interestingly, this particular person wasn't "middle-aged, slovenly, with no significant other" but a young wife and mother and pregnant to boot!

Anyone who thinks that bullying or mistreating only happens in nursing isn't paying attention.

I worked in a teaching hospital for a number of years and saw plenty of medical students, interns, and residents chewed up and spit out. I also saw one surgeon forced to leave when he found out the hard way that being "Ivy League" did not give him license to throw instruments at anesthesiologists who happened to be from a different part of the country.

One of the worst bullies I know personally is an MBA with another Master's degree in another field.

One more thing: what is sometimes seen as "bullying" is in reality being held accountable. Know your stuff and know how to look people in the eye and respond calmly and firmly and you don't look the least bit tasty.

One could say the same thing about the abundant numbers of young nurses that eat the old.

After all we have all met them, usually young and sleeping with everything that has a pulse, spending hours on their cell phones, and worrying over their pregnancy/HIV test scares. They pride themselves on how long their fake nails are. Their attitudes are reflected in their slutty appearances, with their low waisted scrubs, and their thong panties showing............. because their is nothing else important in THEIR Worlds.

(But that would BE MEAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Not to forget to mention the ones looking to hit the jack pot of their "MRS" degree with a wealthy doctor. Look out when the new residents hit the floor.

For a closed thread, there are a lot of posts. :confused: :nuke:

I think cruelty can be found in any line of work, any group of workers. Nursing is not immune to it, we know. Neither, though, is any other group. We all know the most, though, about the group where we spend the most time, that's all.

I agree that everyone SHOULD be courteous to everyone else. But, in real life, this just doesn't happen. We should still try, though.

Not to forget to mention the ones looking to hit the jack pot of their "MRS" degree with a wealthy doctor. Look out when the new residents hit the floor.

I wish I'd gotten my MRS degree with a doctor. Sigh. I wouldn't be in the jackpot I'm in now. Unless, of course, he'd have run off with some younger babe after a few years. :sniff: :eek: :devil: :o :lol2: You just never know what life will dish out. :specs:

Specializes in Neuro.

The only example of "eating their young" I have personally "witnessed" as a student was a classmate of mine. This is a very opinionated individual, both parents are nurses, worked in the medical field for several years, who made a few VERY inappropriate comments to instructors, preceptors, and the director of our program on multiple occasions in multiple settings. When she was called in to discuss her lack of professional behavior, she swore up and down that they were "eating their young".

Well.... no. She was being inappropriate, unprofessional, and making the school (and the rest of us) look bad, and the problem was dealt with. I have no doubt that unless she figures out what is or is not okay to say in public that she will continue to have problems with supervisors or colleagues and will most likely proclaim that she has been eaten once again.

I always live by the philosophy that if there is a conflict between two people, BOTH people play SOME part in it. It is important to look at yourself and determine what you may have contributed to the conflict before you scream foul play.

Specializes in LTC, Home Health.

I left nursing school thinking I knew it all. I walked into my first job and one of the older, wiser nurses looked at me (on the first night) and said "I will not eat you but I will tell you that if you walk around thinking you know it all, you will be chewed up and spit out". I was taken aback by her comment but I am so grateful for it.

My MIL is an RN and my SIL is in school for her RN. My husband asked his mother if she felt she should talk to SIL about her attitude towards other people. My MIL looked at me and we both laughed. Her response was "her co-workers will take care of that". It seems mean but I am grateful for the women who "put me in my place".

Specializes in Clinic, formerly ED, ICU, PACU, ortho.

To SuzieSunshine, how professional are you? Are you one of these new RNs who think thy know everything and do not? Why do these young nurses feel it is okay to go to work with tattoos, piercings and show us their crack and think they are professional. Suzie, I will tell you that where I work, most of us are 45+, we are in better shape than you and look a lot better and more professional than you. You see, we have the time and the $$. We do take care of ourselves and exercise a lot. Loans are paid off, kids are almost raised and we make more than you because we know more than you. Oh, and Susie, not all new RNs make it and yes, we do NOT think you are more important than anyone else, ourselves included. Grow up and be grateful all those "old" nurses are there to answer your questions, which we do answer even if we do not want to. Say thanks. P.S., I know many middle aged RNs who I would bet are better looking and in better shape than most of your age-based peers. Why don't you quit being so self-absorbed and try to learn from those more knowledgeable than you.

Yeah That Statement Is True. I Just Graduated In Dec And I Started Working As A Gvn In A Nursing Home..the Veteran Nurses Would Treat Me Like Crap..they Talked About Me Behind My Back..they Would Not Help Me With Anything..when I Finally Got Fed Up With Them Talking Crap I Quit..but In Reality They Won Because Thats What They Wanted Me To Do..then The Don Call Me And We Discused All The Rumors About Me..and She Told Me The Most Valuable Thing In Nursing...and That Is Never Let Anyone Talk You Into Walking Out Of Your Job!!!she Also Told Me That There Was No Validity To The Rumors And That I Sholud Come Back To Work..so In All That Said I Went Back To Work And Prove Them Wrong...i Am Not A Quiter!! So To All Nurses Who Eat Their Young Need To Stop!!! Remember You Were Once A Student Nurse Your Self!!!

Specializes in FNP, Peds, Epilepsy, Mgt., Occ. Ed.
What's with the attitude "If I don't get my way, I'll threaten to sue the school" expressed periodically by students here. I view that type of statement as highly confrontational along with kicking people to the curb.

What's happened to dialogue, discussion, give and take......get a lot more out of life with honey than you do with vinegar.

"I'm gonna sue" seems to be the modern "adult" equivalent of "I'll hold my breath until I turn blue" or "I'm going to flop on the floor, scream and kick my heels."

Unfortunately, all too often, it works.

Some people never learn that life is not always "fair." Nor that not everything that happens is someone's fault. While I don't wish misfortune on anyone, overcoming adversity can be highly beneficial. Some folks never do learn and grow.

Specializes in Cardiac Care.
I do so AGREE with this poster; I, too, found this post an insult & was very disturbed; After all, I am, perhaps even past middle-age; I am neither slovenly nor unkind to the younger nurses. I have a rewarding & full life away from my work place.

Oh, and yes, I do still work full-time night shift! I am right at the bedside each & every night; I have SEVERE arthritis, had 2 hip-replacements, PVD & DM. I'm still here. I work thru the nite without complaining every 2 minutes about how tired I am;

I often talk with DH about this----Why am I so old and can work just fine & still have a full life when Young Nurses in there 20's work, go home & sleep until it's time for work again & have no social life--cause they're TIRED!!

I'm so fed up with new nurses being out of school mere months talk about "BEING BURNED OUT!!". What a cop-out!!

I simply don't believe it.

I knew Nursing would be hard work when I set foot in that school over 40 years ago!! School was hard & nursing is hard-----------but SO REWARDING!!

You young people complain about me--but I'm the one you run to with questions or an IV to start or an N/G tube to pass!!

AMAZING!!

Sorry, but this thread really had me seeing RED!!:angryfire Sorry I rambled on!!

Mary Ann

Mary Ann, I would work with you any day!!!

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