New Grad Nurses struggling to find jobs - CNN Reporter wants to hear from you - page 8

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    After I passed my NCLEX, I immediately started applying for jobs. I got an interview and job offer for every job I applied for, except for hospital positions. I did not have any experience and was told that was the reason. All other jobs responded quickly.
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    Tabdelhafiz-- just curious what part of the country are you in (I didn't see a city for your profile).

    Thanks.
    Last edit by kogafietsen on Jan 10, '13 : Reason: typo
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    Quote from letarn2b
    The job market for nyc hospitals is a joke they want 1-2years experience and a BSN. I graduated with my AAS and it tookover 4months to find a job and when i finish my BSN in the next 1 1/2 i dont qualify as a new grad because i have worked the past two years but not in a hospital setting. If they want a BSN to be the standard IN nyc they should dismiss the AAS programs since the hospitals are not hiring them. Its all a money making thing i know bsns that cant find a job also ,and a good point to consider is that bsn programs are expensive here who wants 50k debt for a rn degree when you could go to a community college and owe 15k or less for the two years and hopefully find a job after graduation and work while you get your bsn. Thats the option i choose.
    Again I don't know about all that: http://allnurses.com/new-york-nursin...wo-806751.html

    For every new grad or experienced nurse who posts on the local NY board they cannot find work,others pipe up they haven't any problems.

    NYP perfers internal applicants for it's new hire program. NYU wants only those with GPAs at or >3.5 in nursing and sciences, NS-LIJ (Lennox Hill, Staten Island University Hospital system) says it wants BSN nurses only, Mount Sinai seems some sort of nursing Valhalla where only goddesses and gods are wanted, and so it goes.

    No wonder Hunter-Bellevue has revamped their undergraduate BSN program and is taking a combined with ABSN only 100 students in total. Better to prepare a handful of excellent grads who pass the boards on their first attempt and are desirable new hires than to crank em out and them them hanging.
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    Quote from GrnTea
    What does CNN get out of this? Glad to see AN intersecting with other media and corporations.
    Hopefully whatever professional journalism gains from doing a hard looking good news piece on relevant topic.

    Everywhere you go there is nothing but noise about a "nursing shortage" and how healthcare is one of the brightest spots in the US economy and will be even more as Obamacare is fully phased in. You've got persons going into debt for tens of thousands for nursing degrees because they believe it is a sure ticket to job security. Someone needs to take away that pitcher of Kool-Aid and serve up some reality.
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    I'll agree that some new grads are picky. But that is a small percentage. There are simply thousands of willing nurses out there. Opportunity is just hard to find. Illinois pumps out about 5000 new RNs each year.
    http://nursing.illinois.gov/PDF/IlAp...es01292010.PDF

    One big mistake is the idea that nursing homes hire lots of nurses, when in fact they hire few nurses. The poor oversight of so many facilities is hard to stomach for many nurses - absolutely horrible conditions abound in some of these places on the level of pure misery for patient and nurse alike - but for some reason, these facilities never get shut down.

    A new nurse must also look out for Home Health and Hospice agencies - a few new ones every year it seems in my area. Many have absolutely no clinical infrastructure - all you need to start up a home health co. or a hospice is: Greed, a loan, the purchase of an EMR, and a bunch of doe-eyed unknowing new grad nurses with shiny new licenses to chart billing to Medicare. It's an epidemic.
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    Quote from netglow
    I'll agree that some new grads are picky. But that is a small percentage. There are simply thousands of willing nurses out there. Opportunity is just hard to find.

    One big mistake is the idea that nursing homes hire lots of nurses, when in fact they hire few nurses. The poor oversight of so many facilities is hard to stomach for many nurses - absolutely horrible conditions abound in some of these places on the level of pure misery for patient and nurse alike - but for some reason, these facilities never get shut down.

    A new nurse must also look out for Home Health and Hospice agencies - a few new ones every year it seems in my area. Many have absolutely no clinical infrastructure - all you need to start up a home health co. or a hospice is: Greed, a loan, the purchase of an EMR, and a bunch of doe-eyed unknowing new grad nurses with shiny new licenses to chart billing to Medicare. It's an epidemic.
    You and I both know why poor to horrible nursing homes/LTCs aren't shut down. Aside from political connections they usually care for a population that by and large have no other options financially. Medicaid and to an extent Medicare funding alone don't make running such places easy so corners are cut or other tricks of the trade are used to get the numbers where they need to be.

    This all works until something hits the fan then you have the usual loud noises that result in pretty much rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

    Charity care in this country is no easy haul, but there are some places both hospitals and LTCs that manage. However more and more they are running up against financial costs that make running the place impossible. Case in point Cabrini LTC in the East Village, Manhattan: EV Grieve: [UPDATED] Source: Cabrini Center for Nursing and Rehabilitation will close in 4-5 months; condos on the way
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    Oh my! I really wonder why I'm putting myself and my family through this! I knew going into an ADN program I would have to continue on to get my BSN - but I was really hoping to "work" my way through the BSN program. Then to read that some that have their BSN need to get their masters to get a job???!!! That is a whole lot of debt!!! To think that I was hoping to be able to work in order to pay for my kids tuitions - I'm lucky if I can pay my own!!! Very discouraging indeed! Good luck everyone!!!!!
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    I will also add that luckily I have no issue with working in a LTC facility or Hospice facility - age on baby boomers!!! I'm ready to take care of you...
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    Quote from cheri1859
    Oh my! I really wonder why I'm putting myself and my family through this! I knew going into an ADN program I would have to continue on to get my BSN - but I was really hoping to "work" my way through the BSN program. Then to read that some that have their BSN need to get their masters to get a job???!!! That is a whole lot of debt!!! To think that I was hoping to be able to work in order to pay for my kids tuitions - I'm lucky if I can pay my own!!! Very discouraging indeed! Good luck everyone!!!!!
    No no no! Don't keep going back to school! Beyond a BSN, without nursing work experience, additional degree education means nothing! So many nurses have gone right back to school and now are in serious trouble - still unemployed!
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    Quote from RNstrong
    @DizzyLizzyNurse I think that is the most difficult part me too. The media says that there is a shortage, so there must be something wrong with me not finding a job, like I'm not trying or holding out for the perfect position - insult to injury. Received my ADN in 2010 - two years applying, two interviews, too many rejections for no experience. Just finished my BSN and hope this makes me a more desirable new grad. (Northern California)
    Northern California is terrible. Good luck
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