New grad looking for first job - what could make a hospital do this?

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I'm a new graduate; I graduated in January and received my license in April. The marketplace around here is pretty tough, but most people from my graduating class have found jobs by now.

I've had a lot of interviews in the area, mostly for ERs, with no job offer yet. I have several years of EMT experience and I most desire to become an ER nurse. This past week I had an interview at a level I trauma center.

My story here: This last hospital I interviewed at, I went in for an initial interview a week prior and then I shadowed the ER for about 7 hours. I met most of the staff that day (about 25-30 nurses as well as staff from other professions) and got along very well with virtually every single one of them. I did everything I could on the unit. My contact on the unit told me that the assistant manager was impressed and she told him that I would probably get the job.

I came back and met with the ER manager for my second interview. She was very excited and did most of the talking; telling me about orientation, the unit and hospital, etc. She asked me a few questions but I mostly had to interject to sell myself to her. At the very end of the 30 minute interview, I asked her if she could see me working out in the position. She said "absolutely," then I listened as she listed five reasons to hire me. She told me to call back in one or two weeks when the three positions were officially open. I asked her if there was anything that could prevent her from hiring me, and she basically stated that if she had three good candidates with experience then she may take them over me. Otherwise it sounded like my chances were pretty good, because she was having trouble getting those with experience in the door.

The next day, I got a call from HR saying that I was no longer being considered as a candidate. It was a very vague statement and she wouldn't go into detail beyond me not having any experience. I wondered if someone had trashed me or something, so I later emailed the HR lady who called me and asked her if she contacted my references, and she hadn't. My references later confirmed to me that they had not been contacted. I also sent a courteous email to the ER director who interviewed me, stating that I was disappointed but did not take the rejection personally, and I asked what I could have improved, and I got no response.

What would make such a ridiculous 180 occur? What I suspect is that somebody above her head must have told her not to hire me, and that it may have been strictly a business decision. Either that or there was some red flag that she thought she found on me; but even then, I can't imagine what that would be. It costs approximately $50k for the hospital to train a new graduate into the ER so it's one of the toughest units to get into as a new graduate, so any doubt in their mind could be enough to prevent me from getting the job.

Frankly I'm tired of being played like this. This is not the first time this has happened to me; where I've had an awesome interview and then got shot down less than 24 hours later. This next week I'm going around to manors from the area to see if it isn't significantly easier to get a job at one of them. I need to get my initial experience and hospitals have been bumming me out.

Sounds like she found those other "experienced" candidates over you. I am sorry but I happens. I am currently interviewing and have had so many seem to go great and then the next day I receive the email: "You are no longer being considered....." :( A friend recently received a job, then got a call later in the week that the budget could no longer accommodate a new hire, and it was pulled out from under her.

The job market for nurses is very fickle right now. I would not continue to contact them. If you have good references and a good attitude in interview.....keep trying! You do not want to make yourself seem desperate. Could something have shown up on a background check? Credit report is another thing to watch out for.

Since they did not even respond to your question about " what can I do to improve", move on. The right place is out there for you.

Specializes in CCM, PHN.

You keep saying your credit is "non-existent" and there's "nothing there." We didn't ask you if you HAVE a credit score. We asked if you have a GOOD credit score. Having "non-existent" and "no" credit at all is just as bad as having BAD credit. Which is it? Because it does matter. I'm not saying it's what always makes or breaks a hiring decision but it plays a far bigger role in the process than most people think. I STRONGLY advise you to make sure you know what your ACTUAL CURRENT SCORE IS at all times. We do not hire anyone with a score of 580 or below.

Likely, HR already had someone lined up who was waffling/negotiating and you were the backup in case they bailed. Or, you might have said ONE wrong thing in all those "awesome" interviews. Or a reference said one wrong thing. Or someone didn't like the jewelry you were wearing. Or you appeared too desperate. It could be anything. I know it's frustrating. Did you send a sincere, short thank you via email to the entire interview panel the day after?

Heather, it's definitely possible that she lied about that. If she was telling the truth at the time, however, it's doubtful she interviewed three candidates in the same day, quickly enough to shoot me down the day after. Of course she could have just had my interview lined up already and didn't want to cancel it. It's really impossible to know for sure.

Mclennan, no doubt any of those are possibilities. It's worth stating that I had a tough mock interview where the lady interviewing me at the end said that she was surprised I don't have a job and that she would hire me. I got feedback from another ER months after interviewing; the lady wanted to hire me but only had one spot for a new graduate, and the new grad interviewing was basically a shoe-in since he was in the system. Two ERs I don't think ever considered me in the first place. And yes, I've sent a thank you email to everyone who has interviewed me.

Also, I don't know my actual credit score. What's the best way to look it up that is accurate and cheap?

Stop emailing. Just keep applying to jobs that interest you.

Find out your credit score. Employers do use this information to make hiring decisions, as has already been pointed out.

A quick Google search will give you lots of information about how to find out your credit score.

I'll look it up. I didn't sign anything in person authorising a credit score, I'll check the application later today to see if it asks for authorization to do a credit check when I fill it out for the next open positions. But really, if you're a hiring manager and you have someone you really want, would you let a credit score stop you from hiring them? Especially a 24 year old who just got out of college?

The recruiter said I was welcome to apply to the next open positions, if that means anything. I've also been told that they say that to string you along so you think you still have a shot there and won't confront them over anything.

Creditkarma.com will give you your free credit score :) and yes it does matter to hiring managers, all of my past interviews have made me sign a release for a credit check.

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.

I just want to add I have a "fair" credit score...many years ago I had a judgement on my credit report, and it HAS NOT precluded me from employment as a new grad AT ALL :no:...

I'm sure it is either the hiring budget got cut, or the higher ups did not want to hire a new grad...I'm more inclined to think of the higher up not wanting new grads...there's always someone above the hiring manager; they may approve the hire and submit the request, to have it be not approved. It happened to me when I was a new grad LPN at the hospital I worked with many moons ago when they abruptly stopped hiring LPNs...now they are doing the same thing to ADNs now...

Cast your net wide and keep looking. You will find a job :yes:

Creditkarma just gives you an estimate. You can get free credit reports from annualcreditreport.com but you have to buy a score if you want your official fico score and can do that at myfico.com.

Specializes in Endoscopy/MICU/SICU.
I just want to add I have a "fair" credit score...many years ago I had a judgement on my credit report, and it HAS NOT precluded me from employment as a new grad AT ALL :no:...

I'm sure it is either the hiring budget got cut, or the higher ups did not want to hire a new grad...I'm more inclined to think of the higher up not wanting new grads...there's always someone above the hiring manager; they may approve the hire and submit the request, to have it be not approved. It happened to me when I was a new grad LPN at the hospital I worked with many moons ago when they abruptly stopped hiring LPNs...now they are doing the same thing to ADNs now...

Cast your net wide and keep looking. You will find a job :yes:

This. Possibly a hiring freeze altogether since there is no positions listed. I'd apply to other positions as they come up, but if you see the same ED position posted again in a few weeks, I'd apply again and see what happens...

My understanding is that if it was because of your credit score, they have to tell you. So the fact that they haven't told you the reason would imply that it's not related to your credit score. However, employers do check your credit score, and you may have agreed to it when you put in your application. It would be good info to have in general anyway, so I encourage you to find out.

They're supposed to send something called an adverse action letter. I was reading about it today. Judging a candidate by their credit score is a very flawed and ridiculous practice. So far it seems they haven't found an actual correlation between credit score and job performance. People who lose their jobs end up with worse credit scores because they can't pay their bills, then have a harder time finding a job because they have worse credit. The practice should be illegal. But this is the wrong place to rant about that...

My friend works on the ER I interviewed at, and he gets along very well with the head manager. I'll see if he can get an honest answer out of her. Right now he's in a little trouble for restraining a patient a little too forcefully (it's a very tough ER) so he's going to let that cool off for a while before he asks.

Also, two ICUs and an oncology unit are available. They just posted those positions Friday. I'll see if I can get an interview on one of those units, but right now I'm really just considering working at a manor. I think it would be way easier to get a job there. ICU nursing is not specifically what I want to do but it would look great on a resume to transfer over to the ER.

Let. It. Go.

Move on.

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