Let go from orientation - page 3
by newnurse1986 7,323 Views | 35 Comments
I'm a new grad RN and was let go 1 week before my orientation was up. I'm devastated as I have 2 small children to support. Luckily, they are giving me 2 weeks pay to look for a job. Should I use this job on my employment history... Read More
- 0May 30, '13 by nursevicki66I would schedule a meeting with the human resources department to clarify what your status is, what your requirements are, and if they have another position that you may fit into instead of looking for a position at another facility.
HR needs to know how nurses are treated in that department.
When you do meet with them, be positive, up beat, and do not say anything negative about your manager. It is OK to tell them that you were shocked by the decision because you did not have any reviews that indicated you were deficient. But you understand that if you are not meeting the requirements of the position that you might need to consider a different one.
- 2May 30, '13 by RNitisI know it's a devastating blow to the ego...trust me, I know. I was at a place and the DON told me she "just don't think your cut out for it, but remember you're still a nurse, why don't you try homecare?" RE: a LTC position in a place that just went on strike, had ALL temp people and I was only given 4 days orientation (being someones helper...not being oriented) before my epic fail ON MY OWN IN THE DEMENTIA UNIT WITH 31 patients...oh really, my first job, that's how you throw me in and expect me to make it?! She later admitted she was short nurses and that was not the right thing to do...still didn't work out. And glad it didn't, that place was an accident waiting to happen! Long story short, it took me 8 more months to find another position, but in a month I had 3 offers, I tried them all and stuck with two, one being (low and behold) another LTC, but wait...its run by (almost ) normal people, the people remember what it's like to be a new grad and are actually there to orient and teach. So, take a minute for your self pity (can't avoid it, but you can lessen the duration), then get out there and be persistent! Fill out a million applications and follow up. I've found going to the facility to complete the application (so they can put a face to the name) yields better results. Chin up! Get out there and you'll find another position!Last edit by RNitis on May 30, '13
- 2May 30, '13 by DesireeRN2011I would include it. Just because, excluding it would likely hurt you more than including it. Falsifying an application, many employers can terminate an employee or withdraw an offer for that reasoning. Explaining a job wasn't a "good" fit for you seems easier to me. It wasn't a good fit if that was the manager's opinion on providing adequate education to ensure safe staff development and practice. There should have been a conversation (many actually) about issues with performance and improving them.
Some of the comments the manager made should not have been made. It shows a lack of professionalism. You can't lump new grads all in a hopper - they are all individual, and all have strengths and weaknesses and things they learn, and they learn it in different ways.
There are better jobs out there. Hopefully you're able to find a better option soon! I'm sorry you're in the situation you are in though.
- 0May 30, '13 by nrsyannI would definitely contact HR. It sounds like you could apply for other positions in the hospital. If L&D isn't a good fit then something else will be. Is this a large hospital? Is it a health system where you could apply for a nursing position at another hospital of theirs?
- 0May 30, '13 by TammylynHang in there,,i got reported not able to do my treatment on one pt.i relay the message to the next,incoming nurse,and told me not to worry she will take care of it,i was so behind that shift,that I did not give report on time ,i had 18pt,2 new admit,plus 2 pt.with tube feeding and 3 pt.to.hung atbx,+ & 5neb tx to give in 8hr shift +lab orders and had 2 cart to pass med each wing separated.i been hoping one cart meds at a time with pt.asking pain meds q4.i was exhausted..for that following day of work got in to office and let me go home early,and they let me wrote statement that I did not do my treatment and sign my initial,i was falsifying it and got in trouble.so I dont know if ill be terminated cuz im still new employee,and the don told me to wait for her call.i explain what im doing and I ask the pt.to do my treatment since it was to late.he refused and documented it..i dont know what to do...the nurse that reported me and was told by other nurse that been working there,thats what she always do,get everbody in trouble,
- 0May 30, '13 by megank5183I would leave it off.....I think that it is BS to let someone go during orientation. I was so terrified that this would happen to me. Nurses, for the amount of responsibility that comes with the job, get a ridiculously short amount of orientation time. It truly took me a year to feel like i had any idea what i was doing....actual nursing has very little to do with nursing school! GL!
- 0May 31, '13 by elprupQuote from newnurse1986Similar thing happened to me. I moved 300 miles with two kids alone to small town. It really really sucks! Just beware, if you apply for any new grad positions, you might want to leave it off. I wish I had.I wasn't a good fit- I wasn't catching on quick enough and needed better assessment skills. She said this is why she doesn't hire new grad RN's. I feel like if she knew this might happen( and obviously its happened in the past) she wasted both my time and hers!
I was disqualified after my second interview for new grad program because, "I had experience". So I was stuck, could not get a job because I did not have enough experience, but could not apply for new grad jobs because I had too much experience. Frustrating to say the least. So I took a job as an assistant at a very rural clinic, but was used to my full RN potential. I was there a year. Then I got offerred a VA RN Clinic job, holy grail! Only the job was revoked because my time hired as an assistant did not count, even though HR told VA I was used as an RN and I told VA During my interview that was hired as assistant but used as RN and their Triage Nurse (which legally only an RN can do). Hiring manager said it was not a problem. Then VA said it was illegal and my experience could not be counted.
So, I am moving again, back to the city hoping to land something decent. I seriously would think twice about putting it down for a new grad program. I wish I had not listed it. Best wishes. I am staying optimistic for one more year, then if I cannot cut it as a nurse, I will find something else.Last edit by elprup on May 31, '13 : Reason: Why you might not want to list it.
- 0May 31, '13 by snazzy-jazzywas only given 4 days orientation (being someones helper...not being oriented) before my epic fail ON MY OWN IN THE DEMENTIA UNIT WITH 31 patients...oh really, my first job, that's how you throw me in and expect me to make it?
RNitis that is exactly what happened to me in my first and last nursing job. Except it was only 3 days orientation, and 25 dementia patients lol.... oh and the week before I was put on night shift as the only RN on the facility and in charge of 160 residents. Yet management sounded surprised when I called them up and stated that I didn't think I was a good fit for the facility due to the lack of training for new grads.. I was told at the interview I would be doing 2 days a week while training up, LMAO that never happened. I worked the weekend after my resignation so she wasn't left short, and had so many nurses on the facility tell me they think I did the right thing. I couldn't beleive the support and respect I was shown that weekend by my colleagues.
Dosn't help me now I still can't get a job, and am beginning a nail technician course next month, then doing a masters in counselling. I'm so over it all... Shame, I really LOVED nursing, LOVED all my patients.
- 0May 31, '13 by LadyFree28Quote from nursevicki66^They DO KNOW...it's "on to the next one" attitude during this saturation, when there is a line of nurses waiting outside for their "opportunity"...
HR needs to know how nurses are treated in that department.
I stand by my opinion...if you were there for less than the magic "probation" time, don't list it...how can it be "experience" if one does not "successfully complete" and feel at least knowledgable enough to step into another position???
I can understand if one was there for at LEAST a year...but orientation???
In this current market where people are moving miles away, have a chance in still eating and paying their mortgages, one needs to advocate for THEMSELVES, for the sake of survival...THEY DON'T CARE...the expectation of nurses is that we advocate for patients...Well, use those nursing skills to do the SAME for YOURSELF.
Get resourceful, DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO, and get another job...this is NOT the end, however, don't risk in putting yourself in the "experience" box when you have not even had the chance to get your legs underneath you and be comfortable.
It may seem "unethical", to omit, but when you have mouths to feed and to maintain a roof over your head and REAL BILLS...THAT goes out the window as much as these employers CHOOSE to to not support new grads and employees in this saturated market.
- 0May 31, '13 by MissM.RNSo sorry OP. but agree with previous posters - you have to list that job, it will pop up on credit and background checks. the board of nursing in my state tracks your employers too, so any license verification may turn up an old job or two. That said....also agree about your lack of support and clarity from management! New grads are just that - new. they should expect that you need more time, especially in L&D when we had so little of that content in nursing school. I think the HR rep is being deliberately vague for a reason - she's telling you "keep applying here as an internal candidate, but while you still can"