What's up with these nurse practitioner/DNP discussions

AgentBeast, BSN, RN · Dec 9, 2011

https://allnurses.com/gsearch.php?cx=partner-pub-9350112648257122%3A0185952529&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&q=DNP+2015&sa=Search&siteurl=allnurses.com%2Fnewreply.php%3Fdo%3Dnewreply%26noquote%3D1%26p%3D5981191

apocatastasis · Dec 10, 2011

There have been multiple (i.e. too many) threads on this multi-faceted issue. Whether or not you can call an NP "doctor" is determined by state statutes. Salary should be negotiated by the NP according to his or her market value and contribution to the practice and is determined by negotiating skills rather than degree held.

DixieRedHead, ASN, RN · Dec 10, 2011

I just call the NP that I work with Louise.

healthstar, BSN, RN · Dec 10, 2011

I just call the NP that I work with Louise.

I called a dr. By name once and she was like " I am DR"x", thats when I was convinced that she went to med school just for the title and the lab coat :).

Anyway, you can get your master's and be a NP, in 2014 who ever wishes to be a NP they need their doctorate, master's cannot get you a NP degree. In my opinion, NP,DNP without any experience or less than 5 years experience= failure, the blind is going to lead the blind lol

PMFB-RN, RN · Dec 10, 2011

Anyway, you can get your master's and be a NP, in 2014 who ever wishes to be a NP they need their doctorate, master's cannot get you a NP degree.

*** That is not the case at all. There is no requirement for NPs to have a DNP in 2014, 2015, or any other year. There is a SUGGESTION that advanced practice nurses have a DNP. Many universities have gone to DNP for their NP porgrams, but many have not.

healthstar, BSN, RN · Dec 10, 2011

*** That is not the case at all. There is no requirement for NPs to have a DNP in 2014, 2015, or any other year. There is a SUGGESTION that advanced practice nurses have a DNP. Many universities have gone to DNP for their NP porgrams, but many have not.

I am not saying this is true for every state out there, it takes years to make this change. They are still working on it. They are saying that a masters degree cannot get you a NP degree, you will need your Doctorate. This change can take years, but this s what They are saying.

ribeyesteak · Dec 10, 2011

Hmm...I find this trend to be particularly irritating. This is what I call trying to legitimize health care fields to make them look more prestigious than they should be. I remember when pharmacy required just a BS degree. Now it's a professional "doctorate". Occupational therapy was just a BA degree. Now it's a masters degree. Physical therapy required just a bachelors degree no more than 10 years ago. They now need to have a Ph.D. -- which is just retarded considering that Ph.D.'s need to publish original research as a thesis.

AngelfireRN, MSN, RN, APRN · Dec 10, 2011

I've never used my title, and even if they DNP thing goes (in which case I am given to understand existing Nps will be grandfathered in), I doubt I use my title then. I'm not that pretentious. Just call me Angelfire. I've answered to it for 31 years, why mess with what works?

brandy1017, ASN, RN · Dec 10, 2011

*** That is not the case at all. There is no requirement for NPs to have a DNP in 2014, 2015, or any other year. There is a SUGGESTION that advanced practice nurses have a DNP. Many universities have gone to DNP for their NP porgrams, but many have not.

As far as I know most if not all the programs where I live have changed to DNP. Universities must be lovin it, a chance to charge at least another year of tuition! They are all jumping on the bandwagon. On top of that more of the colleges are adding NP programs that were just MSN before. I think they see money to be had from all the dissatisfied nurses looking for better working conditions! The problem is what happens when the markets saturated and by me I think that is already the case and all these NP/DNP graduate and can't get jobs and still have lots of student loans to pay back? Still for the young ones with time on their side or those with the money it might be worth doing because bedside working conditions just keep getting worse.

PMFB-RN, RN · Dec 10, 2011

i am not saying this is true for every state out there, it takes years to make this change. they are still working on it. they are saying that a masters degree cannot get you a np degree, you will need your doctorate. this change can take years, but this s what they are saying.

*** i don't know who your mystery "they" is but they talk a lot of bs. i suggest you discontinue listening to "they".

llg, PhD, RN · Dec 10, 2011

Hmm...I find this trend to be particularly irritating. This is what I call trying to legitimize health care fields to make them look more prestigious than they should be. I remember when pharmacy required just a BS degree. Now it's a professional "doctorate". Occupational therapy was just a BA degree. Now it's a masters degree. Physical therapy required just a bachelors degree no more than 10 years ago. They now need to have a Ph.D. -- which is just retarded considering that Ph.D.'s need to publish original research as a thesis.

... and in little more than 100 years ago, physicians did not need a university education. Prior to the early 1990's, physician education was not anything like it is today. Why don't you include them in your list? All professions have upgraded their educational requirements over the last 100 years (over the centuries, actually). Physicians were among the first to require doctoral level work (though they still only require a practice doctorate and not a PhD). The other disciplines are simply following suit as the knowledge and skills expected of their members have increased -- with the increased accountability and liability that goes along with those increased expectations.