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- by umbdude Jan 4, '12Hi-
I'm a bit confused about the whole 2015 DNP requirement for APRNs. Does this mean a DNP, instead an MSN, is required in order to become a Nurse Practitioner starting 2015? Is this applied uniformly in all States or do States have their own "flexibility" on how this is handle? (I live in MA.)
If DNP is required, I wonder if MSN programs will be phased out and replaced by DNP programs or maybe integrated into the DNP programs. In a clinical setting, will the scope of practice expand for someone with a DNP vs someone with an MSN? Or are they moving to DNP because they believe that MSN programs are already very much a doctoral program relative to other health professions?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
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- Jan 4, '12 by elkparkThere are a bunch of existing threads here discussing those questions -- have you looked at them?
There is no "requirement" -- this is still a proposal by some of the academic nursing organizations. The larger nursing community doesn't seem to be jumping on the bandwagon too enthusiastically (the NLN, the "other" big-name academic nursing organization, has come out against the idea). AFAIK, the only advanced practice group that has really embraced the idea is the CRNAs, and their target date for requiring a doctorate is 2025, not 2015 (however, even that is still a "target," not cast in stone). However, there is no denying that many schools are already converting their MSN advanced programs into DNP programs. A lot of us suspect that is largely about $$$. The MSN-vs.-DNP question may become an increasingly moot point as time passes and it becomes more difficult to find an MSN advanced practice program, even without a requirement. However, I'm not aware of any state that has indicated it has any plans to start requiring a DNP.
- Jan 4, '12 by sirIMoved to APN forum.
- Jan 4, '12 by umbdudeThanks elkpark. I did do a search but got conflicting views. For example, someone said that iowa will require dnp for NP in 2015. But your answer makes a lot more sense to me. Thanks.
- Jan 4, '12 by elkparkThere have been a bunch of students who have posted here that a professor/instructor at their school told them this was a "done deal" -- I'm not sure what has happened in those cases, whether the student just misunderstood what the instructor was saying or the instructor is actually giving out wrong information (whether through sincere ignorance or to push a particular agenda). There's a lot of confusion out there ...
However, it is clear that the trend, for better or worse, is in the direction of the DNP over time.
- Jan 11, '12 by rustynailThis is just a word of mouth but I was told last night that some schools have re-opened their MSN NP programs after going solely with DNP. Also, that no states as of yet have confirmed any intentions, such as that DNP would be the new barrier to entry to practice.
- Jan 11, '12 by lizrnbsnI, too, have been looking into the information on this but cannot find anything regarding the actually date and information on this topic. From what I was told the ARNP program will no longer be...so what my understanding is is that if you are wishing to be an ARNP then you must be completed with your coursework by 2015 or else you would have to go for your doctorate. Please let me know if you find any more info on this
- Jan 13, '12 by zoidbergno no no no no. the dnp does not make a better clinician... ill save my rant. i know rustynail agrees... but anywhoo lets just not get the darn thing. if no one gets it, they cant force us to get it, then it will go away. thats my plan.
ready, go! ...well i guess dont go. unless youre getting a msn. that is allowed.