Nurse: 'I was fired for refusing flu shot' - page 8

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  1. Visit  Anne36 profile page
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    Laidback, I cant argue that the patient comes first. No Nurse wants to infect her patient. That being said do you know how many people I have read on this forum who complain about being forced to work sick? If you are serious then Nurses would not be allowed to work sick.
  2. Visit  Laidback Al profile page
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    Quote from Anne36
    Laidback, I cant argue that the patient comes first. No Nurse wants to infect her patient. That being said do you know how many people I have read on this forum who complain about being forced to work sick? If you are serious then Nurses would not be allowed to work sick.
    Of course vaccinations would help keep nursing staff from getting sick.

    I can't directly comment on the issue of nurses working while they are sick. I am not in the health care profession but I have certainly read enough posts here at allnurses to know that many nurses feel obligated to work while sick fearing for the loss of their jobs. It seems that administrators and supervisors also turn a blind eye and do not send sick nurses home because of staffing needs. There obviously needs to be a compromise solution that protects patients from infection by sick nurses and sick nurses deserve to call in sick and be treated like sick employees just like in any other industry or profession.
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  3. Visit  RN1980 profile page
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    actually i think about my own saftey first and foremost..there is absolutley nothing in my job description that said i should expect to get injured or sick while at work.
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  4. Visit  Laidback Al profile page
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    Quote from RN1980
    there is absolutely nothing in my job description that said i should expect to get injured or sick while at work.
    All the more reason to be wary of slips, trips, and falls hazards and make sure you get all of your vaccinations of your own volition, not because you are required to have them.
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  5. Visit  RN1980 profile page
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    laidback al, i agree with your "under your own volition"....you should not be forced to have a ******* flu shot under the threat of termination.
  6. Visit  CuriousMe profile page
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    Quote from RN1980
    laidback al, i agree with your "under your own volition"....you should not be forced to have a ******* flu shot under the threat of termination.
    As has been mentioned countless times....no one is forced....everyone is free to work at a facility that does not include a seasonal flu shot as a requirement of employment.

    It just so happens it's an "employers market" right now. Employers are permitted to create whatever requirements of employment that they wish.
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  7. Visit  lindy_ profile page
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    I just attended a conference on adult immunizations attended by close to 800 nurses. A physician from the Mayo Clinic spoke about mandatory HCW flu shots and made a convincing argument that it is an ethical and moral issue. He said that the only way to get HCW's to take a flu shot that have refused in past years is to make it mandatory. He said that all of the education in the world will probably not motivate. The yearly flu shot would be mandatory just like TB tests, hepatitis B etc. I have to tell you that he was cheered.
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  8. Visit  nola1202 profile page
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    can't take it if you're allegic to it (or the growth medium.) So I guess people who want to decline need to become allergic.
  9. Visit  Turd Ferguson profile page
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    As an American individual, you have the right to refuse the flu shot. As a compensated healthcare worker, you do not necessarily have the right to refuse what you want to. Does a construction worker have the right to refuse to wear a hardhat? You forfeit certain rights for safety's sake.

    If I was in a position to make the call, I would not hesitate to make it 100% mandatory unless you are fatally allergic. There are plenty of other employment options out there.
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  10. Visit  AngelicDarkness profile page
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    In my schooling and at my facility, you won't be fired for not taking the flu shot. Dr notes are accepted at proof for allergies, and if there is an outbreak of flu, the people who had Dr notes will get paid for missing work. If they don't have a note, you're off work until the outbreak is over with no pay for missing hours. Firing someone over it is a bit harsh. I refused the H1N1 shot in 2010, and I'm slightly annoying that I cannot refused it in Canada now because it is mixed with the seasonal flu shot.
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  11. Visit  RN691 profile page
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    I worked for an employer who stated that I had to have the flu shot of be fired. I stated that in my opinion that was the same as forcing me to take a medication against my will which could be construed as battery. They left me alone, then the union stepped in and got a court order to stop mandatory flu vaccines. This is my body and I have a right to refuse medications, just as my patients do. If a hospital demands that I take a flu vaccine then I demand they force all patients to have a flu vaccine.
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  12. Visit  MunoRN profile page
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    Quote from RN691
    I worked for an employer who stated that I had to have the flu shot of be fired. I stated that in my opinion that was the same as forcing me to take a medication against my will which could be construed as battery. They left me alone, then the union stepped in and got a court order to stop mandatory flu vaccines. This is my body and I have a right to refuse medications, just as my patients do. If a hospital demands that I take a flu vaccine then I demand they force all patients to have a flu vaccine.
    You have the right to refuse a flu vaccine- by not working in healthcare. Unless a vaccine is contraindicated due to a medical issue, you are an irresponsible healthcare worker if you refuse a vaccine and you clearly have little regard for the safety of those you care for. It is absolutely nothing like being forced to take a medication. Medications affect only you. Vaccines affect those you care for. Many hospitalized patients cannot be vaccinated due to immuno-compromise, which is unfortunate because those are the patients who most need to be protected from additional illness. They depend on you to take steps that prevent you from becoming a vector. I don't think that an employer requiring a flu vaccine to be battery, although if you do refuse I do believe you should be charged with assaulting your patients since you are intentionally threatening their safety.

    The Joint Commission is looking at making flu vaccines among direct patient care staff accreditation criteria, more power to 'em.

    What is your reason for refusing?
    Last edit by MunoRN on Jun 22, '11
  13. Visit  mama_d profile page
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    The corporation I work for just announced that seasonal flu shots are now mandatory unless you can prove a medical or religious reason for not getting it. Not just those involved in patient care, either...everyone including those at corp headquarters who never see a pt.

    I can see mandating for those who come into contact with pts...I work with neutropenic pts frequently, and for their protection (and all the other pts as well), I have no problem with requiring the vax.

    But the requirement that all employees regardless of if there is pt contact or not get it makes me uncomfortable. Especially the way the memo was phrased. I'm not going to quote it...even though tens of thousands of people work for them I'm just a little paranoid. The basic message was along the lines of "we know best, you have no options, do it or else...and how dare you all be so irresponsible as to force us to do this for you." Mention was also made of how it's our responsibility to the company since sick days cost them so much money...the same reason why they will no longer hire people who use tobacco...it just makes me uneasy that that was even an openly cited primary motivator for the policy. What other decrees will they make in the sake of promoting "a healthy workforce" at the expense of personal choice of the employee?

    Again, no issues at all with requiring it for those involved with pts, just still iffy as far as requiring it of EVERY employss.

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