Unions protest 100m hospital donation - page 3

by mhy12784 4,649 Views | 29 Comments

This pretty much sums it all up I understand that politics is jaded, and people are crazy and bitter. But this is absurd. If someone that I politically hated (im not really political but still) donated to 100million to my... Read More


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    Quote from laborer
    ... I have a bridge in N.Y. for sale.
    Just dont donate the proceeds to a hospital. People might protest outside your house
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    What's sad is that either Koch brother is permitted to serve on the Board of NYP. Their policy of freedom to pollute our waters has caused cancer among people who have to live near these waters. NOTHING they do is motivated by charity. And,IMHO, it's creepy that any member of a hospital board would be allowed to give a donation while serving on that board.
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    Quote from jadelpn
    But here's the thing--if a women goes to this ambulatory care center and is seeking birth control, chances are this won't be on the agenda of the plan of care. If same woman comes back because she is now pregnant, again, chances are that pregnancy termination will not be either. So then we have a woman without choices, and a child who potentially suffers because of it.

    These kind of donators seek out pushing their own political agenda in area where a large majority of patients would be under-served. This way, they are in a position of power and control, as for the patient there's little other choice.
    I find it difficult to believe that this hospital is the only place a woman can go in NYC to get rid of her "little problem." I'm in a smallish city in the south, and we even have an abortionist. He's quite a charmer, too, one of the most repulsive individuals I've ever had the misfortune to meet. When the Koch brothers are marching into Planned Parenthood and dragging women out of the stirrups by the hair, then I might understand how them giving money to this hospital is limiting women's rights. So the woman has to go to the health department or PP to get her condoms or pills after she gets a cut sutured here. The options are there, just not there. Why is it such a heinous intrusion on a woman if she can't kill her baby in one locale but can in another? Abortions aren't done in any of the ambulatory care centers here, either, thankfully.
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    Quote from monkeybug
    I find it difficult to believe that this hospital is the only place a woman can go in NYC to get rid of her "little problem." I'm in a smallish city in the south, and we even have an abortionist. He's quite a charmer, too, one of the most repulsive individuals I've ever had the misfortune to meet. When the Koch brothers are marching into Planned Parenthood and dragging women out of the stirrups by the hair, then I might understand how them giving money to this hospital is limiting women's rights. So the woman has to go to the health department or PP to get her condoms or pills after she gets a cut sutured here. The options are there, just not there. Why is it such a heinous intrusion on a woman if she can't kill her baby in one locale but can in another? Abortions aren't done in any of the ambulatory care centers here, either, thankfully.
    You are free to dislike abortion and to choose not to complete one.
    Not every American shares your Christian belief system which prohibits exercising of that right.

    Many of us are concerned about the ongoing erosion of women's reproductive health rights in this country. We are concerned that legislators (generally older white men) are clamoring to make abortion unavailable in their geographic region for many poor women. Along with the disappearance of abortion clinics is the disappearance of clinics which provide reproductive health care to those very same women. Please review what is happening in Texas as example.

    At the same time, the SCOTUS is deciding whether or not your employer may decide for you which birth control will be paid for by your health insurance. that is, apparently because it violates the religious beliefs of the company. (what church does your company attend?) Which personal thing will they get to decide for you next based upon their "religion" or faith system (does capitalism count as a religious or faith system)?
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    Quote from toomuchbaloney
    You are free to dislike abortion and to choose not to complete one.
    Not every American shares your Christian belief system which prohibits exercising of that right.

    Many of us are concerned about the ongoing erosion of women's reproductive health rights in this country. We are concerned that legislators (generally older white men) are clamoring to make abortion unavailable in their geographic region for many poor women. Along with the disappearance of abortion clinics is the disappearance of clinics which provide reproductive health care to those very same women. Please review what is happening in Texas as example.

    At the same time, the SCOTUS is deciding whether or not your employer may decide for you which birth control will be paid for by your health insurance. that is, apparently because it violates the religious beliefs of the company. (what church does your company attend?) Which personal thing will they get to decide for you next based upon their "religion" or faith system (does capitalism count as a religious or faith system)?
    But again, how is THIS ambulatory care center preventing anyone from abortion? Or birth control? Is every health care operation supposed to take care of this? Do you expect an orthopedic surgeon's office to provide murder on demand too? I know it's a crazy thought, but maybe this huge donation of money to health care is a good thing, even if you don't care for their beliefs.
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    Quote from monkeybug
    But again, how is THIS ambulatory care center preventing anyone from abortion? Or birth control? Is every health care operation supposed to take care of this? Do you expect an orthopedic surgeon's office to provide murder on demand too? I know it's a crazy thought, but maybe this huge donation of money to health care is a good thing, even if you don't care for their beliefs.
    Money fixes everything, doesn't it?
    For instance, money will fix the whole messy and uncomfortable thingy with Native Americans and the Redskin franchise, right.. even if we don't care for their beliefs.

    If you are unaware that poverty and geography can limit a woman's access to reproductive health care I again refer you to Texas.

    Did anyone on this thread intimate that an orthopedist or any other physician provide murder on demand? Perhaps you are simply trying to be inflammatory. Current US law does not equate abortion to murder, that is your personal opinion which is not shared by everyone.
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    Quote from toomuchbaloney

    If you are unaware that poverty and geography can limit a woman's access to reproductive health care I again refer you to Texas.
    Do you even live in Texas? Have you ever lived here? As a Texan I find this comment offensive and false. Before dispairaging Texas i suggest you live here a bit. You might just be a bit surprised how great of a State we really are. Furthermore our politicians here represent the will of the voters here in Texas.
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    Texas Reproductive Health Cuts Deny Women Access to Care - Bloomberg

    About a quarter of state-funded family-planning clinics in Texas’s Lower Rio Grande Valley closed after funding was cut in 2011, forcing women to forgo breast exams, Pap smears and contraception, according to a report by an advocacy group.

    US appeals court upholds new Texas abortion rules - KiiiTV.com South Texas, Corpus Christi, Coastal Bend

    Planned Parenthood, which had sued to block the restrictions, called the ruling "terrible" and said "safe and legal abortion will continue to be virtually impossible for thousands of Texas women to access."
    "The latest restrictions in Texas will force women to have abortions later in pregnancy, if they are able to get to a doctor at all," Cecile Richards, President of Planned Parenthood Votes, said in a statement.
    Some of the toughest restrictions in the U.S. on when, where and how women may obtain an abortion were approved last summer by the Republican-controlled Texas Legislature and Gov. Rick Perry.

    At least 19 clinics have shut down since the new law was approved and the 5th Circuit allowed the provisions on hospital-admitting privileges and abortion-inducing pills to take effect, leaving around 24 still open to serve a population of 26 million Texans. More closures could happen after the additional restrictions are in place.

    The provisions effectively shut down many abortion clinics in rural areas in Texas, a large state where hospitals are far removed from many clinics. The Texas Hospital Association, which represents more than 400 hospitals, called the restrictions unnecessary because women experiencing abortion complications already can go to a hospital emergency room and be treated.

    Texas' Family Planning Cuts Are A Human Rights 'Disaster': Report



    More than two years after conservative Texas legislators cut funding of family planning clinics by two-thirds, a report has revealed just how devastating the cuts have been for the welfare of many women who now no longer have access to contraceptives, pap smears, life-saving cancer treatments and other critical services.
    Specifically, the report, compiled by the National Latina Institute for Reproductive Health (NLIRH) and the Center for Reproductive Rights, looks at how the cuts have affected one of the most under-served communities in one of the poorest areas in the state: Latina women living in the Rio Grande Valley, an impoverished area in South Texas that borders Mexico.

    I don't live in Texas, I live in the conservative Republican state of Alaska.
    I am sorry that you are offended by the legislative efforts of your leadership, but don't blame me. I just read the news relative to women's health care and reproductive rights. It is one of my areas of professional interest.
    So if your legislators are representing your will in these matters, so be it. I don't agree and I don't have to live there to have an opinion about what is happening.
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    Quote from monkeybug
    But again, how is THIS ambulatory care center preventing anyone from abortion? Or birth control? Is every health care operation supposed to take care of this? Do you expect an orthopedic surgeon's office to provide murder on demand too? I know it's a crazy thought, but maybe this huge donation of money to health care is a good thing, even if you don't care for their beliefs.
    Oh good grief.
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    Could it be that the new ambulatory care center would remove jobs from the hospital? And maybe the "string" that is attached to that money is that the jobs would be non union? If you think that is not possible research the unfair labor practice strike at Lawrence and Memorial Hospital in CT last year.
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