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- by Derve Jan 8, '12I was wondering if anyone has attempted to excise themselves from the CNA union? Is it possible? If so, how do I go about it?
Poll: Do you agree with your unions politics?
- Jan 8, '12 by Sweet_Wild_RoseYou might want to try posting this in the union collective bargaining forum rather than the operating room forum. You'd probably get more responses.
- Jan 9, '12 by Chico David RNBy federal law, you can not be required to be a member of a union. But, depending on your state law and the contract where you are, you may be required to pay a fee for the benefits of the union contract. If you are in a so called "right to work" state, that would not be the case. Both membership and dues are voluntary in those states. If you are in a state, like California, that allows agency shop contracts, then you can choose to be what is called a "Beck objector" in which case you are not a member of the union and pay the portion of dues that goes to pay for collective bargaining costs but not the part that goes to pay for political activity. That's usually in the ballpark of 90% of full dues and, since you are choosing not to be a full member you don't have a vote in anything like contract ratification.
- Jan 14, '12 by GuttercatQuote from DerveThanks for the info David. The politics poll was mainly to discover if people actually think that taxing Wall Street more will create more jobs. I'm not a "rich" guy, I just have a hard time understanding how making the "rich" pay more will create more opportunity for those of us who are not. Thanks again.
A good union is not there to make the "rich" (I'm assuming you mean individual corporate fat-cats) earn less by spreading his or her wealth to those who are further down the ladder in the company.
It is there to ensure a balance between the worker and the employment entity. It draws lines in the sand and sets rules by which both sides must play, to the benefit of both.
- Jan 22, '12 by VickyRNModerator's note: The rest of this thread (which was off topic to the original question by the OP) has been split off into a new thread and placed here: Should We Cut Taxes to the Rich or Make Them Pay More?
- Jan 22, '12 by DerveJust the fact that this poll is getting these kinds of results is proof that people don't know what their unions are doing behind their backs. Exactly like my co-workers.
- Jan 22, '12 by OCNRN63So, because the poll didn't yield the results you wanted, that must mean the participants are uninformed? My guess is they're quite informed, particularly if you're talking about the CNA.
It's best not to ask a question if you're not prepared to get an answer you don't want to hear.
- Jan 22, '12 by OCNRN63BTW, since you have such objections to your union, I'm sure you forego the wage and benefit increases your union negotiates for you. After all, that would be the moral thing to do since you find your union so odious.
- Jan 22, '12 by Chico David RNQuote from DerveIt's hardly "behind their back". CNA and pretty much any other politically active union does everything they (we) possibly can to inform the members about their political activities and program. Anyone who takes even a cursory look at the website, anyone that the union has an email address for certainly gets informed about all of that - unless they are just really determined to avoid being informed. Seems more likely to me that the results of the poll - too small a sample to really mean anything much, in reality - lean to the fact that most members do approve of the union's political activities. It would be pretty silly of a union to support politicians or political programs that actively aim to hurt their members, which is presumably what you would like them to do.Just the fact that this poll is getting these kinds of results is proof that people don't know what their unions are doing behind their backs. Exactly like my co-workers.