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What is a Doctor of Nursing Practice (DNP) and Doctor of Nurse Anesthesia Practice?



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from elkpark
Old Sep 28, 2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by maximilian333 View Post
I wonder, if nurses just called it a PhD rather than DNP and pretended not to know anything about science, would MDs feel less threatened?
Well, the problem with that idea is that the DNP degree is nowhere close to being a PhD (and nursing doesn't get to redefine what a PhD consists of ), and plenty of people have PhDs in the various sciences (like, say, most science faculty in any university) and know a lot more science than MDs. So I doubt the MDs would be terribly reassured ...
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No. 21
Old Sep 28, 2009, 11:42 PM

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By 2015 even the entry-level RN is going to need to fathom the amazing plethora of new drugs, genetic therapies, and new medicine that are now just emerging. I can understand why they are putting forward pressure on this issue.

As for the poster mige below, do you really think that nurses want to obtain a DNP degree so that they can call themselves "doctor" or actually equate themselves with MDs? If so, that's just paranoid. Your arguments seem to suggest that nursing education & self-actualization should simply end with the MSN, unless they do something safe like get a PhD in Nursing and go into teaching. By your logic, we should not let lawyers obtain their doctoral degrees in a mere 3 years either.
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Old Oct 01, 2009, 04:20 PM

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One concern I have (as a wannabe CRNA) is that this new practice doctorate will be focused too much on "leadership" or general nursing classes instead of going deeper into the hard science of anesthesia and disease processes etc. I know CRNA school is intense and basically teaches you everything you need to practice safely but surely there is more in terms of science that can be learned. The only dnap cirriculum i have looked into is from VCU, there may be more programs now that are more science based but I havent seen them. Anyone else have similar thoughts on this issue?
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No. 23
Old Oct 02, 2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jubilayhee View Post
I think it is just a way to confuse people into thinking nurses are doctors, when really they aint. ANA cleary has an agenda and an inferiority complex. If you want to be called a doctor go to med school school plain and simple.

First of all check your grammer. Aint??? Come on.

Tell me, do Dentists want people to think they are doctors, what about audiologists, podiatrists, physicial therapists, pharmacists? They are all called doctors. A title of Doctor is defined as the highest level of education, this could be in any field. You are thinking of physicians. Use the word physicians. There is no nurse that wants to be known as a physician, but nurses can be called doctors. Do some research on higher education
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No. 24
Old Oct 02, 2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mige View Post
The DNP is another glorify easy degree, its purpose was to make/prepare better clinical nurses but if you look at the curriculum of almost all DNP programs you wont find more than 2 classes that involve clinical medicine.

Its funny that the Purdue DNP program states 192 hours of residency, As a 3rd year resident IM I do that in less than 3 weeks working 80 hours per week.

Its a joke and that's why even the nurse community can find a common ground on this topic.

Not a very well thought out answer here. Basically, in the very near future, nurses will take on more responsibility in healthcare. They will be front line primary care practitionars. Get your facts correct about Purdue's DNP, it is not just 192 hours of residency. This program is for people who already are an advanced practice nurse and already have a Master's Degree. Typically these people have done years of clinical work. So, let's say they have worked for 3 years, well that is 6,240 hours already!!! Be very careful on what you quote from websites and take the time to read.
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No. 25
Old Oct 02, 2009, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SpouseofChicagoCRNA View Post
Are there any MDA programs which will take CRNAs and give any kind of credit for courses taken and experience which might shorten the program and yet yield a MDA rather than a DNA?

Ahh no, and why would you want to become an MDA?? Watch what the future brings, there are going to be more and more CRNA's and less and less MDA's. MDA's are too expensive. Healthcare is finally figuring that out. Nurse Anesthetists provide the same quality of care as MDA's without any higher morbidity or mortality.
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