Published Jul 19, 2009
what is doctor of nursing practice (dnp) and doctor of nurse anesthesia practice (dnap)?
what is the aana’s official position statement on doctoral education and where can i view it?
the aana board of directors’ position statement on doctoral education is: “the aana supports doctoral education for entry into nurse anesthesia practice by 2025.” the statement can be accessed on the aana website at http://www.aana.com/dpcrna_presentations.aspx.
where did the vision for the doctor of nursing practice (dnp) originate?
the american association of colleges of nursing (aacn) has adopted a position that all advanced practice nurses, including nurse anesthetists, be educated at the practice doctorate degree level and earn a doctor of nursing practice (dnp). as part of its initiative, the aacn developed a document containing “essential” elements of a dnp curriculum and influenced programs offering a nursing doctor (nd) degree to change the degree to the dnp.
why does the aana support the vision of doctoral education for future nurse anesthetists?
since its founding in 1931, the aana has advanced quality education as the means to ensure that certified registered nurse anesthetists (crnas) are the best-prepared, safest anesthesia providers possible. over the years, the educational standards for nurse anesthesia programs have grown to meet the required knowledge and skills for entry into practice. during the 1980s nurse anesthesia educational programs moved from hospital-based certificate programs to university-based graduate programs, and in 1998 the council on accreditation of nurse anesthesia educational programs (coa) finalized the requirement that all programs award a master’s or higher level degree. to best position crnas to meet the extraordinary changes in today’s healthcare environment, the aana believes it is essential to support doctoral education for future nurse anesthetists.
aacn - doctor of nursing practice
the doctorate in nursing practice (dnp): background, current status and future activities
information on doctoral preparation for nurse anesthetists
aana announces support of doctorate for entry into nurse anesthesia practice by 2025
Boo, might as well become an anesthesiologist then.
This is mostly to protect the position from to many people going into NP or CRNA. if you get to many people in these careers wages start to fall off drastically and higher paid experienced nurses get dumped for fresh graduates who will work for less! you want to keep the balance just on the side of shortage to keep pay, benefits, and working conditions up.
I think it is just a way to confuse people into thinking nurses are doctors, when really they aint. ANA cleary has an agenda and an inferiority complex. If you want to be called a doctor go to med school school plain and simple.
Will DNAP's eventually fight for Anesthesiologist jobs??
Clearly you have no understanding of the term Doctor, try again and tell all those who have earned the title Doctor in fields other then medicine that they are just trying to confuse the public.
Most of the current Master's programs in Nurse Anesthesia have a curriculum that is well beyond a Master's level education in any other field. AACN is the organization (see the original post) that has mandated Advanced Practice nursing move to the clinical doctorate, similar to what PT and Pharmacy has done in the recent past. It is a natural progression which has taken this long only because 'nursing' has been well aware that "you nurses just want to be doctors" would be shouted from the mountaintops far and wide. Well shout away. No MD should be threatened by this, it has nothing to do with them.
Clearly you're fooling yourself.
Compared to what? A masters in education that takes a year?
And as with Stan, you're clearly fooling yourself, or woefully uninformed.
The average credit hours for BSN is 120 hours the average anesthesia program is 60 hours total 180 hours befor courswork for clinical doctorate, the Pharm D is a TOTAL 190 hours, So JWK those PHARM D's earned thier doctorate and CRNA's will not?
You are tragically misinformed. Just try not to regurgitate the misinformation the ASA feeds you, I know it hard but try.
wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA
Clearly you're fooling yourself.Compared to what? A masters in education that takes a year?And as with Stan, you're clearly fooling yourself, or woefully uninformed.
Let's see I will graduate with 81 semester credit hours for my Master's degree in nurse anesthesia. The one PharmD program I looked at will have 80 semester graduate hours when they graduate, but it is okay for pharmacists to get their doctorate and not CRNAs?...
Not to mention the fact that most programs are going to add 6-12months to their existing programs in order to graduate with a DNAP.
Now JWK, since you seem to be the spokesman for the ASA, can you tell me why it is okay for pharmacists and physical/occupational/speech therapists to get their doctorates, but as soon as nurses move to a terminal doctorate degree it becomes confusing and nurses are suddenly trying to become physicians. I think that it is you that is confused.
Clearly you're fooling yourself.
That's one example, I just took a quick look at Columbia's wesite. Their MBA program requires 18 months of full-time study over 21 months (2 academic years with the summer off). A Master in Biotechnology can be done in a 1 year intensive program, meaning it's a full 12 months, you don't get the summer off. I had to look at the Master's in Philosophical Foundations of Physics (I've never heard of such a degree). It's 2 full time semester's and then you must write a thesis, it actually sounds really interesting-I must be getting older. The Columbia Nurse Anesthesia program in contrast is 27 months of full time study with no breaks.
I can understand the AA reaction to the DNP or DNAP, you have a reason to feel threatened.
The DNP is another glorify easy degree, its purpose was to make/prepare better clinical nurses but if you look at the curriculum of almost all DNP programs you wont find more than 2 classes that involve clinical medicine.
Its funny that the Purdue DNP program states 192 hours of residency, As a 3rd year resident IM I do that in less than 3 weeks working 80 hours per week.
Its a joke and that's why even the nurse community can find a common ground on this topic.
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