What is a Doctor of Nursing Practice (DNP) and Doctor of Nurse Anesthesia Practice?

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what is doctor of nursing practice (dnp) and doctor of nurse anesthesia practice (dnap)?

what is the aana’s official position statement on doctoral education and where can i view it?

the aana board of directors’ position statement on doctoral education is: “the aana supports doctoral education for entry into nurse anesthesia practice by 2025.” the statement can be accessed on the aana website at http://www.aana.com/dpcrna_presentations.aspx.

where did the vision for the doctor of nursing practice (dnp) originate?

the american association of colleges of nursing (aacn) has adopted a position that all advanced practice nurses, including nurse anesthetists, be educated at the practice doctorate degree level and earn a doctor of nursing practice (dnp). as part of its initiative, the aacn developed a document containing “essential” elements of a dnp curriculum and influenced programs offering a nursing doctor (nd) degree to change the degree to the dnp.

why does the aana support the vision of doctoral education for future nurse anesthetists?

since its founding in 1931, the aana has advanced quality education as the means to ensure that certified registered nurse anesthetists (crnas) are the best-prepared, safest anesthesia providers possible. over the years, the educational standards for nurse anesthesia programs have grown to meet the required knowledge and skills for entry into practice. during the 1980s nurse anesthesia educational programs moved from hospital-based certificate programs to university-based graduate programs, and in 1998 the council on accreditation of nurse anesthesia educational programs (coa) finalized the requirement that all programs award a master’s or higher level degree. to best position crnas to meet the extraordinary changes in today’s healthcare environment, the aana believes it is essential to support doctoral education for future nurse anesthetists.

more info:

aacn - doctor of nursing practice

aana:

the doctorate in nursing practice (dnp): background, current status and future activities

information on doctoral preparation for nurse anesthetists

aana announces support of doctorate for entry into nurse anesthesia practice by 2025

The DNP is another glorify easy degree, its purpose was to make/prepare better clinical nurses but if you look at the curriculum of almost all DNP programs you wont find more than 2 classes that involve clinical medicine.

Currently, "almost all" DNP programs are designed for people who have an MSN and are already practicing advanced practice nurses (NPs, CRNAs, CNSs, CNMs) to return to school and complete (only) the additional coursework necessary for the DNP degree. That's why they appear to have so little clinical content. If you want to look at clinical content, please be sure that you're looking at a program designed for those who are not already practicing clinicians.

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1. Then do not worry about it

2. tell that to the pharm d's and the rest

3. ignore the issue and quit posting on a nursing board.

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Quick question...

Can someone tell me why they want to change the entry level of NP's to DNP in 2015 and CRNA's in 2025?

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Quick question...

Can someone tell me why they want to change the entry level of NP's to DNP in 2015 and CRNA's in 2025?

Nurse anesthesia has moved slower because of a concern that the current nurse anesthesia programs needed more time to develop qualified factulty.

AACN has taken the position that all Advanced Practice Nursing programs must grant a Clinical Doctorate by 2015 (as stated elsewhere, APN's currently in practice would be grandfathered). About half of Nurse Anesthesia programs grant a MSN, and are therefore under the accreditation guidelines of CCNE (the accrediting body affiliated with AACN, they are seperate organizations). All nurse anesthesia programs are accredited by the COA, so some are accredited by both CCNE & COA. Those programs only accredited by COA are not affected by CCNE, but AANA, after discussion determined that CRNAs did not want to be the only APN group that did not move to the clinical doctorate. AANA came out with a position statement stating that the Clinical Doctorate should become the education level required for entry to practice by 2025. There was concern that if the move was made quicker, ie 2015, some of the current nurse anesthesia programs would be threatened because that was too fast for them to obtain qualified faculty. The COA has interpreted 2025 to mean that all who graduate from a nurse anesthesia program in 2025 must have a clinical doctorate, meaning that actually programs will have to start educating at the clinical doctorate level by 2022.

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Are there any MDA programs which will take CRNAs and give any kind of credit for courses taken and experience which might shorten the program and yet yield a MDA rather than a DNA?

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Doctor does NOT mean "one who practices medicine." It comes from the Latin "docere" which means "teacher." Many people in many fields have the terminal degree of Doctor. How many professors in college did you call "Doctor?" A more appropriate term for one who practices medicine is "Physician."

Second, to SpouseofChicagoCRNA, NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!! There are not, and should not be MDA programs that accept CRNAs because they are two entirely different practices. Physicians practice medicine. Nurses (and CRNAs) practice nursing. Are you trying to be a "doctor's wife?" (i joke....kinda)

Namaste.

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In addition to my post above, it's obvious that some of you here aren't in the field of nursing. If you're not a nurse, student nurse, interested in becoming a nurse, you may find other discussion boards which suit you better.

We're all here to help the patient, and we can all work as a team to do that. If you're afraid that we're going to somehow going to drive down your salary than perhaps it's necessary to rethink your motives of becoming a MDA. Is it because you have a genuine love for practicing anesthesia, or were there other motivators? It's okay to be motivated by financial gain, but please don't forget that we can all collaborate for the good of the patient.

Namaste.

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It's hard to believe that this discussion is even taking place. I'm assuming that most people here have been to college or university and understand that many of their professors have doctorates in philosophy, economics, law, and yes- business and nursing as well.

I know a veteran MSN psych nurse who wanted to get deeper into women's crisis / rape stuff and got her doctorate and now is a first-line responder/rape trauma counselor. What the heck is wrong with that?

I think it's the medical establishment who is imagining this stuff to be a threat to their status quo and that's why they are so supportive of the PA movement- which ends at the MS level btw.

I wonder, if nurses just called it a PhD rather than DNP and pretended not to know anything about science, would MDs feel less threatened?

Nursing is a collaborative and complementary field, not a redundant and inferior field of medicine. To call it so is simply wrongheaded, insulting, and patently false.

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I wonder, if nurses just called it a PhD rather than DNP and pretended not to know anything about science, would MDs feel less threatened?

Well, the problem with that idea is that the DNP degree is nowhere close to being a PhD (and nursing doesn't get to redefine what a PhD consists of :)), and plenty of people have PhDs in the various sciences (like, say, most science faculty in any university) and know a lot more science than MDs. So I doubt the MDs would be terribly reassured ... :D

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By 2015 even the entry-level RN is going to need to fathom the amazing plethora of new drugs, genetic therapies, and new medicine that are now just emerging. I can understand why they are putting forward pressure on this issue.

As for the poster mige below, do you really think that nurses want to obtain a DNP degree so that they can call themselves "doctor" or actually equate themselves with MDs? If so, that's just paranoid. Your arguments seem to suggest that nursing education & self-actualization should simply end with the MSN, unless they do something safe like get a PhD in Nursing and go into teaching. By your logic, we should not let lawyers obtain their doctoral degrees in a mere 3 years either.

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One concern I have (as a wannabe CRNA) is that this new practice doctorate will be focused too much on "leadership" or general nursing classes instead of going deeper into the hard science of anesthesia and disease processes etc. I know CRNA school is intense and basically teaches you everything you need to practice safely but surely there is more in terms of science that can be learned. The only dnap cirriculum i have looked into is from VCU, there may be more programs now that are more science based but I havent seen them. Anyone else have similar thoughts on this issue?

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I think it is just a way to confuse people into thinking nurses are doctors, when really they aint. ANA cleary has an agenda and an inferiority complex. If you want to be called a doctor go to med school school plain and simple.

First of all check your grammer. Aint??? Come on.

Tell me, do Dentists want people to think they are doctors, what about audiologists, podiatrists, physicial therapists, pharmacists? They are all called doctors. A title of Doctor is defined as the highest level of education, this could be in any field. You are thinking of physicians. Use the word physicians. There is no nurse that wants to be known as a physician, but nurses can be called doctors. Do some research on higher education

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