How much do you make? - page 2
by Topher53, MSN, DNP, CRNA | 37,413 Views | 61 Comments
Now, before I get blown up with comments saying "it's not about money, but patient care". I get that. No need to tell me over and over. I heard CRNAs mainly get hired in rural areas, which kind of scares me. I would simply like... Read More
- 0Jan 25, '13 by wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA GuideQuote from SRNA4UThat isn't necessarily true. I have seen several CRNA jobs advertised in "southern states" in the 200-300K/yr range. The lowest pay states seem to be the ones with the most CRNA school.I forgot to add that states in the south were on the low end of the paying scale.
- 0Jan 25, '13 by manuskoQuote from SRNA4UWhen did majors start making $140k?Check out www.gaswork.com Here you will be able to search for your state and other areas as well. Looking at the pay scale, it seems Florida and many states are on the low end for pay. There was one place in FL where the minimum salary was $90,000 for a CRNA. The Northeast, Texas and states north of there, MIchigan, Ohio, Maine, Massachusetts, and the DC Metro area pays very well. Florida really seems to be saturated with CRNAs since they have many programs there as well as Pennsylvania. When I saw the salary of $90,000, I was really shocked since I make $140,000/year as a Major in the Air Force, which includes my $20,000 bonus I get every year in addition to my part-time job in the civilian sector.
- 0Jan 25, '13 by wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA GuideQuote from manuskoThis will be my pay as a Major with 12yrs for my duty location.Base pay 6803.00/moBAH. pay 2808.00/moBAS. Pay 242.00/moOCola pay 1150.00/mo (varies monthly)132,036/yr + bonuses and certification pay puts me well above 140,000/yr.When did majors start making $140k?
- 0Jan 25, '13 by manuskoQuote from wtbcrnaYeah with the cola and the bonus That makes more sense. Plus the untaxed portion is great. The extra military pay depends on where you live and what job you have as well.This will be my pay as a Major with 12yrs for my duty location.Base pay 6803.00/moBAH. pay 2808.00/moBAS. Pay 242.00/moOCola pay 1150.00/mo (varies monthly)132,036/yr + bonuses and certification pay puts me well above 140,000/yr.
- 0Jan 26, '13 by SRNA4UQuote from wtbcrnaIn the South, I was referring to states such as MS, LA, AL, FL, SC, etc. There have been articles written regarding the low end in salaries for CRNAs in those states, especially the ones that have a lot of programs.That isn't necessarily true. I have seen several CRNA jobs advertised in "southern states" in the 200-300K/yr range. The lowest pay states seem to be the ones with the most CRNA school.
- 1Jan 26, '13 by SRNA4UQuote from manuskoMy BAH (housing allowance) is around $2770 for the DC area, which has a higher cost of living as compared to a person with the same rank as living in CA or TX. I also moonlight as an OR nurse in the DC area and I make around $55/hr for PRN and I get time and half when I get called in for a case. Being a single Major definintely has it benefits. The good thing about the military is that our BAH and BAS (food allowance) are all tax free. So the only thing that gets reported for tax purposes are our base pay.When did majors start making $140k?
Once you make Captain and have been in that rank around the 4th or 5th year, you can easily start to hit the 6 figures a year mark. If you deploy, such as I am now, then your whole pay is tax exempt while you are gone, which is a reason why so many military members volunteer to deploy.\
Since I will be using my Post 9/11 GI Bill for CRNA school, I will get paid $1800/month for housing and my tuition will be covered (about 40%) from the military and since my program is a private school, they are covering the rest of the tuition, which means I won't need any loans and my tuition is already taken care of. Also, with the bonuses we get, I have saved well over 6 figures to live off of when I am in school for the 28 months without having to work at all. I will tell anybody, the military is the place to go for the best educational benefits.
Since my program offers all their core courses online, I will only be left with my actual anesthesia courses, which will end up being about 2-3 classes a quarter, which will lighten my load considerably allowing me to just focus on those courses. A couple of quarters, I will be down to just 1 anesthesia class towards the end of the program. I know some programs like the military schools, yo are taking around 18 cr hrs of classes a semester. Since I already have a MSN, I was exempt from all the core courses except pharmacology and physiology since my MSN was in a non-clinical specialty.
- 0Jan 26, '13 by wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA GuideQuote from SRNA4UThe NE and Florida is where I've noticed the lowest salaries. Except fo Florida I don't see those other states advertising that many CRNA jobs. The Midwest in rural areas seem to have consistently the highest advertised salaries.In the South, I was referring to states such as MS, LA, AL, FL, SC, etc. There have been articles written regarding the low end in salaries for CRNAs in those states, especially the ones that have a lot of programs.
- 3Jan 26, '13 by wtbcrna, MSN, DNP, CRNA GuideQuote from Topher53Depends do you think the money is worth being away from your family in a hostile environment every 18 months for 6months or more. Then when you get back home you have to work 50+hours a week and be told you can't take leave every summer because of low staffing.So is the military route one of the better ways to go? All those allowances and tax free deductions seem great!
I can easily make 200-300k/yr working on the outside. The money is okay as an officer in the military, but it doesn't even come close to compensating us for what we do in the military.
- 4Jan 27, '13 by IndiCRNAQuote from Topher53The answer is "it depends". Most of classmates/friends started at $130K-200K in this area. "this area" being between were we went to school in Minneapolis MN east through Wisconsin since most of us came to MN from Wisconsin for school then restured to Wisconsin (more than half of my class all came from one hospital's SICU and we all knew each other long before NA school). Those who took jobs in the city are making the least, those working in rural area the most. There are two of us, inlcuding me, who belong to all CRNA anethesia practices. I am not an employee but rather 1/3 owner of the practice. We have the exclusive contract to provide anesthesia sevices in a very busy smaller rural hospital, plus contracts to provide on call services for a couple tiny rural hospitals). My net (after taxes, health insurance, capital and interest payments to buy into the practice etc)for my first year will be over $300K. I make considerably less that the two senior partners at this point. We work a 6 week rotating schedual. 2 weeks of Monday-Friday schedualed cases in the OR and covering 2nd call in off hours and weekends (very rare to actually be called in, never happend to me so far). The second two weeks is no schedualed cases at all but on call 24/7. Actually average 21 hours a week of work during the call weeks. Then we are off for two weeks and the schedual repeats. I average slightly over 20 hours of work a week when six weeks of hours are devided by six. We take our call from home.Now, before I get blown up with comments saying "it's not about money, but patient care". I get that. No need to tell me over and over. I heard CRNAs mainly get hired in rural areas, which kind of scares me. I would simply like to know the average starting salary of your line of work, plus the area you live in, and/or the amount of experience you have as a CRNA. Thank you!
It is a fantastic qualiety of life. We are never medicaly directed, we ARE the anesthesia department. Complete autonomy. I love it and highly recomend it. However to work in this enviroment you have to feel confident in your skills since there is no back up as there is with an ACT model.