filipino to migrate in Canada.... what to do to become a RN?

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i am new to this forum. i am a r.n. in philippines and will migrate in canada (vancouver). i haven't actually practiced my profession as a nurse in hospital setting instead as a company nurse.

actually i don't know have an idea :idea: as to what to do to become a r.n. in canada.

should i need to take up another how many years of nursing in canada?

what should i do? kindly help me please!! thanks a lot.

Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.
thanks a lot. i dont have any employer yet but i just tried to apply in CNRBC, i havent tried any of the employment agencies, i hope i could get a direct employer while applying to CNRBC. maybe you guys can help, any recomendations for me to apply, I would really appreciate your help.

Pls. help

CRNBC is only the regulatory body and has absolutely nothing to do with helping to find employers. Also, there are very few agencies that are in the game of finding placements for nurses. It's up to the individual to do the legwork to find out about the province, the different health regions and then start contacting them to see what jobs are available. Maybe you should start with a Google search of "BC health regions" and see what pops up. It'll keep you busy for several hours.

hi guys! crnbc requires me to take the complete sec assessment on med/surg nursing, maternity, pediatric and psychiatric nursing. it will be a 5-day 'toxic' period, though am already preparing for it now. however, has anyone experienced the complete sec assessment, please share you experience so i can have,more or less, an idea on what will transpire by the time my turn comes.

am sure any shared experience would somehow bring relief to my anxious thoughts. thanks in advance!

thanks for the tips and advice and im sorry for posting my E-add im new in allnurses so i didnt know..

If CNRBC reqires me to have a SEC assessment, is it possible for me to take since im in singapore at present?

Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

You have to come to Canada to do the SEC. It will be a minimum of one day and as many as five. Then if you need any remedial education, you'll have to apply and be accepted to a program here that will provide the necessary upgrading. The process isn't as simple and straightforward as people think. It also costs a lot of $$ to get through. There are no shortcuts either.

aw..i was thinking i could take it online. that means i need to aplly for a visa to go there if in case ill take a sec assessment. any advice for an applicant like me whos not in canada.

thanks a lot

Specializes in intensive care, recovery, anesthetics.

Part of SEC is clinical (scenarios) how do you want to take that online????

It is how it is, you have to travel to Canada to get the assessment done, if you need one, same goes for CRNE.

5cats

Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.
aw..i was thinking i could take it online. that means i need to aplly for a visa to go there if in case ill take a sec assessment. any advice for an applicant like me whos not in canada.

thanks a lot

Let's clear something up about the SEC. There are many things that are being evaluated when you undergo the process. The examiners are looking at far more than what you know about nursing. They look at how competently you perform skills, how carefully you plan your care, how well you organize your time, how you interact with others, how you react in stressful situations and so much more. One of the most important aspects they want to assess is how well you will fit into the nursing role as it exists in Canada. Here we are expected to function autonomously within our scope of practice, making decisions and carrying them out without a lot of guidance or supervision from anyone. If you aren't even sure what the scope of practice is, you will struggle. If your educational preparation and scope of practice in your country is markedly different that ours, you won't know where to begin. Therefore, SEC cannot be carried out in any other way than face-to-face direct observation. That's why you have to come to Canada to do it. That's why I said the process is expensive.

As for the CRNE, it has been stated many times in this and other threads that you must come to Canada to write it. There are no foreign locations for writing the CRNE and there probably won't be for many years to come. You can certainly apply to write from abroad, once your eligibility has been confirmed following assessment of your credentials by the College of Nursing and any SEC components they may feel are necessary, but you MUST write the exam in Canada. My personal view of that is that it weeds out those who aren't committed to their goal of working in Canada. If you're willing to go through the entire process from start to finish and do whatever is required, then you're more than welcome to come and work with us. But if you balk at any stage of it because of the "inconvenience" or expense, then you really only wanted an easy out and it's likely that if something better comes along, you'll take it. Then where are we (the collective "we", Canadians), but back to Square One?

hi, i just want to ask whether it is the nursing board or the employers right or decision to ask an ien to take the sec? actually it is clear to me that if crnbc find that you lack somethings based on their assessment, they do sometimes ask you to take sec. but what i am confused because i know someone who already passed the crne last october but an agency told her that in order to be successful in her employment, they recommend that international nurses complete the competency assessment and enhancement for nurses program at kwantlen university college. correct me if i am wrong, but i guess this is same as sec right?

so, why do they ask for this since the offcial regulatory board for nursing in vancouver did not even asked for this?

i hope someone could help me with these confusions that i have. thank's.:wink2:

Another friend of mine already passed the CRNexam last October. He's on a tourist visa and still in BC, Canada. So, since his visa isn't expired yet, he utilized his time looking for employers. The problem is, he is now confused because he really doesn't know what to get first. Ok, this is what happened: :thnkg:Since he passed already his CRNE, CRNBC requires him to finish 250 hours of supervised nursing to attain full registration. They will give him an interim permit, but he needs to get an employer first who will sign the neccessary papers for the release of the interim permit. Ok sounds easy. But when he started applying for jobs, agencies/facilities are asking for an interim permit from him? So what confuses him is what should come first? the inerim from crnbc or the an employer? So it's like asking which came first, Chicken or egg?

Please do help us with this inquiries. I am also concerened because I am planning take the same path that my friend took.

Thank you.

Specializes in intensive care, recovery, anesthetics.

Your friend should have a letter stating the eligibility for the interim permit. That should satisfy potential employers.

SEC is asked by the College of Nursing BEFORE someone is eligible to take CRNE to determine if education and skills are equivalent. Employers can demand that you're doing a program offered by many Colleges/Universities for IEN to get to know the Canadian health system and integrating better. Names for those programs and length vary. Some also cover language as well.

5cats

Thank you so much 5cats.

hmmm, may I ask what is that eligibility for interim permit is? I haven't heard of that and I think it's not in CRNBC's site? What is it? Is it a letter wherein CRNBC certifies that the said person is eligible to apply coz they will produce an interim once they(employer) hires the person?

So you could include that letter together with your cover letter upon your application?

Another thing, do you have any idea where should a person who just recently passed the CRNE and have to complete the 250 hours should apply, wherein hiring possibility is higher? Coz I heard that it is hard to apply here in Greater Vancouver specially in hospitals compared to outskirts and provincial BC areas?

Thank you and God Bless.

Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

Let's see if I can make this clear. In Canada, the provincial Colleges of Nursing regulate the practice of all registered nurses in that province. Each College is required by law under the Regulated Health Care Professionals Act of each province to ensure the competence and fitness to practice of every single nurse they register. The legislation also contains specific terms for comprehensive examinations prior to registration. Employers are required by the same legislation to employ only those nurses who have been registered by the College. The SEC is a tool the Colleges in Nova Scotia, Saskatchewan, Alberta and BC (and likely country-wide sooner or later) use to meet the legal requirements for competence in those provinces. Alberta developed the assessment tool in 2007; the other provinces have adopted it in recent weeks as they've seen too many newly-registered IENs failing to meet competence requirements after the fact. The bridging programs such as the Kwantlen program janelf mentioned are another tool the College uses to ensure fitness to practice. But they are not the same.

The 250 hours of supervised employment required in BC must be obtained through a Canadian employer. An employer who is willing to take on an IEN for long-term employment will know about that requirement. As 5cats said, once the CRNBC has proof of success on the CRNE, the applicant is eligible upon submitting all the pertinent documentation fees to receive temporary registration. And once the 250 hours of supervised practice have been completed and documented the temporary registration automatically converts to full registration.

Do not make the mistake of applying for work in a community that you have no desire to live in just to obtain the 250 hours of supervised practice. If you wnat to live in Vancouver, look in VANCOUVER. You will not score any points if you work for two months in Osoyoos and then quit to go work in Coquitlam. In fact you'll be viewed as an employment risk. The easiest way to find employers who are hiring is to look at the health regions' websites under "careers" and apply on those positions that you qualify for.

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