Will LPN's be around for long?

[OMMx3]

From some of my own research, I did read that LPN programs have remained stable since the 90's. I have been thinking about starting an LPN program and going through with school. I do not want to go through everything if there is no future for LPNs because then of course I would have wasted my time and money. My overall goal is to be an RN, I was thinking of doing LPN and then doing an LPN-RN bridge program. Please let me know what you all think.

[Red Kryptonite]

I respect all opinion whether I agree or disagree.

Opinions are "a view or judgment about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge"

But you weren't posting opinions:

It's bonafide fact that LPNs are the unhappiest group of nurses because their job choices and salaries are limited....due to facility and state regulations regarding their ability and worth. That's undeniable fact

You can't provide any sources to back up your bonafide, undeniable facts, so now suddenly they're opinions. At least you're right about one thing: your anecdotal experiential data do not constitute provable facts about anything.

You don't know the difference between fact and opinion apparently, and that makes any kind of rational or valid discussion impossible. I'll let it rest there.

[mhusen5]

fltopp1,

I respect your opinion and theirs., despite the fact that I don't concur.

IMHO, no education is ever a waste, underwater basket weaving notwithstanding ;-)

Although your sense of humor should gets you props.......

[mhusen5]

Obsessive curiosity and questioning my "personal" business quite frankly leads me to believe that any further dialogue would be totally counterproductive.

In that case, please respect my request. Thank you.

[RNsRWe, ASN, RN]

Obsessive curiosity and questioning my "personal" business quite frankly leads me to believe that any further dialogue would be totally counterproductive.

In that case, please respect my request. Thank you.

It is not "obsessive curiosity". I simply asked for a straight-forward answer to an extremely simple question, one that even the most protective of privacy have no trouble with answering: Are you a NURSE? Asking if you are a licensed RN or LPN is not invasive of privacy on a website GEARED toward nurses.

When someone comes on as you do, making blanket statements about what "all" or "most" LPNs like and don't like, what "all" or "most" RNs are like when it comes to education, and make statements of comparison, it stands to reason that you would be questioned as to whether your statements are from the point of view of an LPN or RN.

I think for most of us, failure of someone to answer even this most basic question--in the course of understanding such statements--indicates someone who is masquarading as a nurse. Perhaps enjoying the attention, and wishing to "join in" on a discussion that would otherwise exclude you.

Your statements have largely been inflammatory, and when asked for evidence to support such statements, you respond that you are being civil, you are being respectful, as if in declaring yourself such, there should be no further complaint....IOW, a continual backpeddling away from the inflammatory statements, once made.

At this point, I think we do agree on one thing: further dialogue with you would not be beneficial to anyone, as it is the viewpoint of actual NURSES--and nursing students--that is sought when NURSES are the topic. And I say that as respectfully as possible.

[Lmomma]

Obsessive curiosity and questioning my "personal" business quite frankly leads me to believe that any further dialogue would be totally counterproductive.

In that case, please respect my request. Thank you.

lol. no one "obsessively" asked you anything. But good try at making yourself look like the "reasonable" person here.

[mhusen5]

Whew!

[IrishIzCPNP, MSN, RN, APRN, NP]

Im an LPN currently going to school to get my ADN. I work with tons of RN's AND BSN's in a hospital and everyone tells me through their experience that the only difference between the two is the extra classes of underwater basketweaving that are required just to get the credits.

I am an RN who did a diploma program first and then an RN-BSN program. It is more than just underwater basket weaving. It is a shame those nurses don't value their education.

[mhusen5]

RNsRWe,

You have made serious and blatantly false allegations and innuendo concerning my qualifications and right to to be a member of allnurses, simply because I chose not to feed into your obsessive curiosity about issues that I chose not to disclose to you.

You have accused me of lying.

Your quotes:

"I think we do agree on one thing: further dialogue with you would not be beneficial to anyone, as it is the viewpoint of actual NURSES--and nursing students--that is sought when NURSES are the topic.

"enjoying the attention, and wishing to "join in" on a discussion that would otherwise exclude you."

"Asking if you are a licensed RN or LPN i....."

This is not your first blog questioning the nursing qualifications of those who comment on this blog!

I have taken a screen shot of your comments. I'd prefer that you 'voluntarily' remove your false allegations.

[Aurora77]

How is asking about nursing licensure a personal question? There are several million of us, we're not that rare. :)

On topic, I definitely see the value of LPNs. If you look outside (and sometimes within) the acute care setting, they play a valuable role in healthcare. My LPN program was one of the hardest thing I've ever done, harder than my ASN and BSN degrees.

[mhusen5]

Aurora,

I chose not to answer the question simply because I refuse to measure ANY nurse's worth by the degrees or licenses in her wallet. That's despicable behavior!

Imho, that was her intent. Her 'curiosity' was for ammunition to support her premise....and she stated as much in her blog. I respect all nursing disciplines and resent those who attempt to pit one against the other....it's too ridiculous for further comment!

Each NSG discipline presents its own set of challenges depending on the individual..learning how to study again is perhaps the biggest stumbling block..for those who have been out of school for a period.

[mhusen5]

IrishizRN,

I agree with your assessment of those who do not value the education received.

Makes me question their motivation and how dedicated they are to their profession,

if they got nothing out of their advanced classes but another degree.

[Red Kryptonite]

This isn't a blog, it's a message board.

And anyone who refuses to state their credentials when asked on a board dedicated to professionals is being evasive.