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I was just wondering what you think. Now that there is this recession and a lot of new grads are having a hard time getting jobs, do you think that BSN nurses will be hired over ASN nurses? I.E. similar back ground experience but BSN vs ASN degree?
I've read on numerous occasions that most hospitals preferred a candidate have a BSN as opposed to an ADN but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll give a position to a BSN trained nurse before they would the ADN trained nurse. I personally if I were in HR would give the position to whomever presented themself better during their interview. Just because you have a BSN doesn't necessarily mean you know more than a person with an ADN.
If all hospitals were to hire ONLY BSN nurses...which I seriously doubt will ever happen, too many community and junior colleges would lose a TON of money because then there would be no reason to pursue an ADN degree. I personally know a ADN graduate who was hired in the ER at a local community hospital and she's making more than the BSN trained nurses at my 900+ bed hospital.
Well as of right now a new graduate with a BSN will most likely get the job over a an ADN. In my new grad internship there were no ADNs - zero. The Portland metro area and Willamette Valley are flooded with new graduates, and many including the BSNs are looking outside the area for new grad jobs.
I don't want to hash out "who knows more a BSN or ADN" because it is dumb to try and quantify the the degrees like that.... but I did ask the hiring manager why a BSN is preferred. She said they could teach anyone a skill, but they can't teach a new grad how to think. They (the BSN degrees) are taught differently and think differently - and it is those critical thinking skills that we are looking for right now.... She then directed me to go look up the nursing research.
everyon on here has interesting opinions. however, its a recession. so realisticall, woulnt they try to hire the cheapest person to do the job? this wasnt brought up on here, and I don't want to sound stupid, but with all the talk about adn or bsn,in the southeast in my area anyway, i have actually seen "Lpn perferred". thats right,this was in a hospital setting. imho,the hospitals are trying to save money so would that apply in this situation?(please know,im not turning this into an lpr vs rn debate)
I was recently chatting with three new nurse recruiter at Virginia magnet institutions.
Hospital 1: has openings for 28 new grads (and 400 applications received this year. All 28 spaces will go to BSN (or Direct Entry MSN) grads.
Hospital 2: Brought on 71 new grads this year. 66 were BSN/MSN grads. The other 5 went to ADN graduates who were employed by the hospital as Patient Care Techs; the hospital paid the RN tuition for these 5 fulltime employees. A
Hospital 3: Has their own diploma program in house and anticipated hiring 30-40 new grads. 1/2 of new grad positions will go to their own diploma grads (diploma grads in the lower part of the class will have to look elsewhere for jobs). They are reserving 5 spaces for grads of the local community college. The others 10-15 spaces will go to BSN grads.
Granted, these are Magnet institions -- but all are giving preference to BSN over ADN.
maybe llg is a girl. I know I often use "she" and "her" when referring to an unknown/hypothetical situation because I myself am a girl and it just happens naturally.
No problem. But if I remember correctly, that was one of the arguments used by close-minded, chauvinistic men back in the 60s and 70s when we were all trying to get past the general terms "fireman," "policeman," and "mailman," among many others.
We all need to be conscious of bias, whether sexual, racial, or otherwise, and realize that bias is not only very inaccurate, but it functions to exclude certain groups. It's time the nursing profession outgrew it.
'nuff said, back on topic now!
Well as of right now a new graduate with a BSN will most likely get the job over a an ADN. In my new grad internship there were no ADNs - zero. The Portland metro area and Willamette Valley are flooded with new graduates, and many including the BSNs are looking outside the area for new grad jobs.I don't want to hash out "who knows more a BSN or ADN" because it is dumb to try and quantify the the degrees like that.... but I did ask the hiring manager why a BSN is preferred. She said they could teach anyone a skill, but they can't teach a new grad how to think. They (the BSN degrees) are taught differently and think differently - and it is those critical thinking skills that we are looking for right now.... She then directed me to go look up the nursing research.
That's interesting, all this time I was under the impression BSN and ADN took the SAME CRITICAL THINKING NCLEX EXAM:lol2:
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there is something wrong with a system that has an ADN and BSN fighting for the same job .... that alone should change