With all the reading we are giving and expected to memorize, paired with minimal guidance and classroom time, how do they expect us to succeed? 2 classes over a 3 week period followed by a 50 point exam? And if I have a question or don't get it, then what?
I'm just very p.o.ed right now and getting very frustrated/borderline discouraged. All this hard work and I'm getting nothing to show for it expect disappointment and more frustration.
There comes a point in college where it's not going to be just given to you. You're at that point. It's preparation for the real world. Your patients won't come to you with a powerpoint or study guide telling you what to do and how to do it. You'll have to figure it out. And you won't have a semester to do it. You'll have minutes (if you're lucky.)
I had a point in school where it SUCKED. Tanked a test. I whined for a day about the unfairness of it all. Then sucked it up and realized that what I'd been doing didn't work anymore, or at least for this class. So I had to figure out what did work. I could have kept whining, or I could suck it up and pass nursing school. I chose sucking it up. You seem to be choosing to keep whining. Which is a valid choice, but it's not going to get you a nursing degree.
I have to disagree that professors should share their PowerPoints or offer study guides. As their own creation, those PowerPoints are their property to do with as they wish. If they choose to share them in printed form with students, that's their choice. If they choose to save them for only presentation purposes and not provide students with copies, that's their right too. This isn't high school anymore; you are responsible for your own learning. College and university professors shouldn't be spoon-feeding anyone information; providing PowerPoint slides and study guides is spoon-feeding. The professor isn't being "stingy" with knowledge; the professor expects you to take the initiative and learn the knowledge rather than be spoon-fed and parrot it back.
We are paying them to teach us, therefore it's their job to provide us wit powerpoints, study guides and any other information that will help us understand the information. I seriously do not get why this is a problem. What makes you a better student if you learn with powerpoint/study guides vs not being given anything at all? Why does everyone advocate for making learning so difficult???
We are paying them to teach us, therefore it's their job to provide us wit powerpoints, study guides and any other information that will help us understand the information.
And they aren't. Whining about it won't change that fact. So you can figure out how to learn without them, or you can continue whining about it and fail. Which are you going to do?
I don't understand this obsession with PowerPoint slides or study guides. Sure, they're nice sometimes as they show what to focus on studying, but they're essentially the same thing that's in the book or what you learn during lectures. I find the best way to study and retain the info is taking my own notes, in my own words.
Another thing. EmilyEmily, saying that you "pay them to teach you" and believing that that obligates them to provide you with all those non-essentials -- study guides, etc, is quite an arrogant and lazy attitude as a student. I think the better way of thinking is that tuition is for the privilege of receiving the knowledge. Teachers already do their part by sharing their knowledge through the lectures, assessing and guiding along your progress through homework and exams. The learning itself is the responsibility of the students.
Powerpoints and study guides give you direction. It saves you from retaining a bunch of material that will NOT be on the exam.
In my program, the professor who gave no powerpoints, no study guides and no reviews for the exam had an incredibly high failure rate, only two students passed! This no spoon feeding method does not work
And they aren't. Whining about it won't change that fact. So you can figure out how to learn without them, or you can continue whining about it and fail. Which are you going to do?
I regret choosing nursing. I should have stayed in the other program that provided study guides, power points, and more direction. They didn't want their students lost and headed for failure
There comes a point in college where it's not going to be just given to you. You're at that point. It's preparation for the real world. Your patients won't come to you with a powerpoint or study guide telling you what to do and how to do it. You'll have to figure it out. And you won't have a semester to do it. You'll have minutes (if you're lucky.)
THIS is a VERY good point.
I can count how many times that thinking in a fly helped solve a patient problem; nursing school is built for such instances.
Not to belabor the previous posts and points about the design for nursing school; heck post secondary education as a WHOLE; but if you are struggling in the theory AND practicum, rather, not placing value on an equally essential piece of your education (clinicals) ; I really think you need to take a step back and decide to return to nursing at a later date.
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We are paying them to teach us, therefore it's their job to provide us wit powerpoints, study guides and any other information that will help us understand the information. I seriously do not get why this is a problem. What makes you a better student if you learn with powerpoint/study guides vs not being given anything at all? Why does everyone advocate for making learning so difficult???
No one is advocating for making learning so difficult. What we are telling you is that you are responsible for your own learning. You are not paying the professors to teach you. You are paying tuition to the school, who is paying the professor. You are insistent on getting PowerPoints and study guides. This makes me ask you, what would you do if PowerPoint hadn't been designed? The professor has decided not to share his/her property (the PowerPoint) with you, as is their right. What this means for you is that you need to find another way to learn the information. Believe me, PowerPoint isn't the be-all, end-all of education that you are making it out to be. PowerPoint isn't perfect, and if you Google disadvantages of PowerPoint in the classroom, what you find may shock you. What you need to do is accept that the professor chooses to provide PowerPoint only during class time, you need to take notes, and you need to study in a way that works for you and that works with the resources you have.
No one is advocating for making learning so difficult. What we are telling you is that you are responsible for your own learning. You are not paying the professors to teach you. You are paying tuition to the school, who is paying the professor. You are insistent on getting PowerPoints and study guides. This makes me ask you, what would you do if PowerPoint hadn't been designed? The professor has decided not to share his/her property (the PowerPoint) with you, as is their right. What this means for you is that you need to find another way to learn the information. Believe me, PowerPoint isn't the be-all, end-all of education that you are making it out to be. PowerPoint isn't perfect, and if you Google disadvantages of PowerPoint in the classroom, what you find may shock you. What you need to do is accept that the professor chooses to provide PowerPoint only during class time, you need to take notes, and you need to study in a way that works for you and that works with the resources you have.
A student should get the information from the professor and not have to go on a witch hunt to find it from somewhere else
Powerpoints and study guides give you direction. It saves you from retaining a bunch of material that will NOT be on the exam.
In my program, the professor who gave no powerpoints, no study guides and no reviews for the exam had an incredibly high failure rate, only two students passed! This no spoon feeding method does not work
How on earth do you think people learned to be nurses when there were no computers?This isn't second grade. you are an adult and you need to take some responsibility for your learning.Adults don't need to be spoon fed. You don't need to only learn what will be on the exam, you need to learn the things you need to be a competent nurse.Just because it's not on the test doesn't mean you don't have to learn it.Some day the "test" will be at the bedside when you need to know what to do for your patient.
Specializes in Complex pedi to LTC/SA & now a manager.
As a nurse you need to be independent with a strong knowledge base and able to think critically and apply the knowledge. You need to be able to read a text and ascertain which are the most important concepts to learn in relation to the syllabus. You need to develop note taking skills
You are not paying tuition for a teacher to teach you and give you the answers. You are paying tuition at the collegiate level for the privilege to learn. Just like you pay a gym for the privilege to use a facility and work out. You don't pay them to work out for you. You pay a personal trainer for 1:1 instruction. If you want specialized instruction in college you hire a tutor.
The professors in a school or college of nursing are charged with helping you to develop the knowledge base, practical and clinical skills, and critical thinking abilities to graduate, pass the NCLEX and safely practice the art and science of nursing.
You are NOT paying for power points. & study guides. You are entitled to a course outline or syllabus that explains the expectations & obligations to successfully complete the course.
EmilyEmily you are really projecting all your limitations and deficiencies onto others. You need to take responsibility for your own education. If you do not learn personal responsibility you will continue to struggle with class work and continue to skirt the border of passing & failure. Which side you land on is entirely on you and based on your choices.
You have been given a lot of advice on all your posts & threads. Your only response is to blame everyone else for your shortcomings.
Nursing school has high expectations of students. Students need to determine how they best study and learn. There are many resources available to figure this out whether at your school's counseling or academic center or online sources. The grading scale for the school of nursing is often higher than other programs with a passing minimum of 75 or 80...a 74 or 79 is failing where in another department school a 64 is failing and a 74/79 is a C.
I regret choosing nursing. I should have stayed in the other program that provided study guides, power points, and more direction. They didn't want their students lost and headed for failure
If that were the case, then nursing would never graduate any new RNs and the profession would cease to exist. Perhaps it's time you stop complaining long enough to realize that the problem isn't perhaps with everyone else, but maybe is a little bit closer to home.
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There comes a point in college where it's not going to be just given to you. You're at that point. It's preparation for the real world. Your patients won't come to you with a powerpoint or study guide telling you what to do and how to do it. You'll have to figure it out. And you won't have a semester to do it. You'll have minutes (if you're lucky.)
I had a point in school where it SUCKED. Tanked a test. I whined for a day about the unfairness of it all. Then sucked it up and realized that what I'd been doing didn't work anymore, or at least for this class. So I had to figure out what did work. I could have kept whining, or I could suck it up and pass nursing school. I chose sucking it up. You seem to be choosing to keep whining. Which is a valid choice, but it's not going to get you a nursing degree.