Why Not Just Do A Bsn Program???

txspadequeenRN, BSN, RN · May 25, 2004

It is amazing you are still a nursing student. I've got news for you , you will always have someone giving you orders. And you better follow them whether they come from a ADN or BSN cause straight out of nursing school or even with one year of nursing experience you dont know crap.

I WILL NEVER TAKE ORDERS FROM AN ADN NURSE! (and for the millionth time: I NEVER SAID THAT ADN NURSES WERE NOT COMPETENT!!!!! DAMN!!!!):angryfire

nikonos · May 25, 2004

After pursuing a zoology degree for three years I decided to go in a different direction in my life and dive into nursing. I chose to switch to an ADN because A) the majority of the classes I had taken wouldn't apply to the BSN nursing curriculum, B) It is $79/hour at the cc compared with $327/hour at my university, and C) I would like to begin my career sometime before I'm 30.

Every cc within a 75 mile radius of where I live graduates many of their RNs in a two and a half year span of time, not three or four. And do you honestly think in going to school for 4 years and coming out with a BSN that you would know more than someone graduating with an ADN? Sorry to rain on your parade but when I finish my ADN I will have spent a full year more in college than the comparative BSN and have more applicable courses under my belt. Will you have had two semesters of animal physiology outside of what you learn in a/p? Organic chem? Comparative vertebrate anatomy? Probably not. But I, someone getting an ADN will have this knowledge and will be of far greater use than the required music/art appreciation or philosophy classes that the BSNs have to take as pre-reqs.

Student nurses in this thread are defensive and have every right to be. I applaud them for being such. Behind the ADN student may come decades of real world knowledge, common sense, and in my case 3 years of bloodand sweat in some of the most difficult classes a college student can take. ADNs come from every walk of life and are every bit as competent as their BSN counterparts if not more.

I can write pages more if you honestly want someone's opinion on choosing one degree over another but I shall leave it alone for the time being.

Nurse GOODNIGHT · May 25, 2004

I second the cost issue. Where I live, no extra pay for BSN and the docs/etc would rather hire ADNs as the program has a higher pass rate and better clinical skills. I think overall, ADNs are probably better caregivers as I know from my program that a lot of time is spent on "Paper writing on Florence Nightengale, etc" or management issues rather than pt care. Time is also spent on ridiculous theories involving energy fields and psychobabble.

Tweety, BSN, RN · May 25, 2004

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Erin RN · May 25, 2004

And furthermore, I must say that my theory has proven correct: nurses are very defensive group of people. But despite what you all may think, I posted this thread to gain insight and not to criticize someone for the decision that they have made. After reading all of the post, it make A LOT of sense to do an AND program: its cheaper, closer (sometimes) you get paid just as much, you are just as competent etc. I still dont agree with the fact that a BSN's pay scale is the same as a ADN"s pay, but hey I'll get over that. Thanks to all those who responded in a polite manner. As for myself, I'm glad that I chose the route that I did. I PERSONALLY (REMEMBER FOLKS, THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION) feel that the ADN program is just a cop out (except for the folks who are doing it b/c of money or family or work issues etc). But once again, like I said, this is just my personal opinion. It just doesnt seem logical that you can take two people: one of which went to school TWICE as long as the other one and yet they are to perform the same job, pass the same exam and get paid the same!!!! Where is the logic in that??? JUST MY OPINION

I agree..it kind of makes you question the intelligence of the individuals that go longer, pay twice as much, pass the same exam and get the paid the same doesn't it?? :rolleyes:

Sorry I couldn't resist. This person is trying to stir up trouble..and I for one m sick and tired of defending MY education choice..it was MY choice to become an ADN nurse...I am not sure why anyone else would even care..I could care less about why others chose the route they took. As far as advancement..I can say it until I am blue in the face..out of the 14 years I have been a nurse I have spent less than half at the bediside..I have been in management, worked on a state contract and now do case management..an ADN can also take you places!! :)

Nurse Ratched, RN · May 25, 2004

I agree..it kind of makes you question the intelligence of the individuals that go longer, pay twice as much, pass the same exam and get the paid the same doesn't it??

I think this is my favorite post on this thread lol (and I'm a BSN.) It also looks like this installment of the ADN versus BSN has run its course, especially since the OP has states he/she is no longer interested in the opinions asked for :).

Anyone interested in participating in the office pool on how long until this topic crops up again, please feel free to pm. Paypal accepted lol.