Why ADN is Better Than BSN for CRNA.. For Some

Nursing Students ADN/BSN

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This is just one person's story but I think it may apply to others. A very good friend of mine just left for CRNA school in MN. He was a cheese factory worker who lost his job. He did extensive research as to what field would best to go into and discovered nursing, and through it CRNA. The state of Wisconsin had a program to re-train factory worker who lost their jobs, but the training had to be at one of Wisconsin's 16 Technical Colleges. He chose ADN RN and finished in two years with no previous college (Wisconsin's ADN programs are desinged to be finished in two years). He then went to work in the same SICU where I work and enrolled in an online RN to BSN program and used the hospital's education assistance program to pay for it. It took him two years to complete the BSN while working more than full time in the SICU. He applied to several CRNA schools and was accepted to four, La Crosse WI, St. Mary's in MN, University of MN, and Rush in IL. He graduated in May with his BSN and left for CRNA school this month (June). His ADN RN took two years and cost about $6,000, paid for by the state, his BSN took two years and was paid for by the hospital, while earning the BSN he made around $120,000 over two years as an ICU nurse and got two years of very solid ICU experience at the same time.

Had he chosen to go directly to a university and do a BSN program it would have taken him 4 years and he would just now be a new grad RN with a lot of education debt to pay back. Even had there not been a state program to pay for his ADN the $6,000 community college RN program would have been much more managable for a laid off factory worker with a family than the $40,000 four years at the UW would have cost him (probaly should also take into account the $120,000 in pay he would not have made over two years).

It would seem to me that for those who can actually complete an ADN in 2 years, the ability to gain two years of real world nursing experience (plus RN pay & benifits) in one of the many hospitals that have programs to pay for or help pay for nursing degrees, while at the same time doing one of the many BSN program desinged for working nurses, would put one at a significant advantage for CRNA school over a traditional univeristy BSN.

Specializes in Critical Care.

I want to know how he completed an ADN in two years.

You can't even gain entry to the programs around here (including the one I'm in) without a minimum of 27 out of 31 semester hours of prereqs.

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
I want to know how he completed an ADN in two years.

You can't even gain entry to the programs around here (including the one I'm in) without a minimum of 27 out of 31 semester hours of prereqs.

*** In Wisconsin the ADN is designed to be completed in two years, though many or most take longer, lots do it in 4 semesters. There are no pre-reqs, only co-reqs. Wisconsin has 16 technical colleges, all have ADN programs. Waiting lists are from 0 to 5 years depending on the school. The technical college I went to (same school the subject of the OP went to) did not have a waiting list.

Last I head ( about 6 months ago) my school had a one semester waiting list for regular program. no wait list for the LPN to RN and no wait list for the part time evening / weekend ADN-RN program.

www.swtc.edu

Specializes in LTC.

I have two sisters who are CRNAs. One went back to anesthesia (NA school) bc (before children) at age 29. The second one went back to NA school ac (after children) at age 47. They each had their own unique struggles related to their age. I encourage you to go back when you feel ready. There are advantages to completing your education while you are younger and when you are more mature!

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
what is CRNA

Certified Registered Nurse Anesthesist - they administer much of the anesthesia givien in the US. They work under the direction of an anesthesiologist MD. They are very well paid.

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
Certified Registered Nurse Anesthesist - they administer much of the anesthesia givien in the US. They work under the direction of an anesthesiologist MD. They are very well paid.

*** No state requires a CRNA to be supervised by an anestesiologist and in many, many practice situation they are not. In some they are.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
*** No state requires a CRNA to be supervised by an anestesiologist and in many, many practice situation they are not. In some they are.

My apologies, I confess to making a rash assumption and I apologize.

Let me rephrase that to where I work, the CRNA's all report to an MD anesthesiologist. The don't have an MD physically present every moment supervising them, but their next higher up is an MD, not another CRNA and there is always an MD in the building responsible for anesthesia. Much like the ARNPs in our ER, they work with a physician.

For some reason I thought all CRNAs had an MD in the practice with them. Duh...

Specializes in burn ICU, SICU, ER, Trauma Rapid Response.
My apologies, I confess to making a rash assumption and I apologize.

Let me rephrase that to where I work, the CRNA's all report to an MD anesthesiologist. The don't have an MD physically present every moment supervising them, but their next higher up is an MD, not another CRNA and there is always an MD in the building responsible for anesthesia. Much like the ARNPs in our ER, they work with a physician.

For some reason I thought all CRNAs had an MD in the practice with them. Duh...

*** In the hospital I work in that is the case as well. I also work in a small rural hospital where there is one CRNA, no MDAs at all. There are also many all CRNA practice groups around the country that do contract anestesia services.

Specializes in CDI Supervisor; Formerly NICU.

If she's too old at 23, I must be ancient at 40, and still a year from my ADN.

Anyone seen my cane?

Specializes in Everything!.
If she's too old at 23, I must be ancient at 40, and still a year from my ADN.

Anyone seen my cane?

haha that made my day!

Specializes in CDI Supervisor; Formerly NICU.
haha that made my day!

Since I'm here for the entertainment of the masses, my work is complete. :)

Thats a great story. I am a incoming freshman to a local University in my home town. However after doing some thinking, I am considering transfering a community college to get a two year nursing degree and then apply to get a bacholors through the university. I am a little torn though, I am not sure if I do this it will look bad on future applications to either be a CRNA. What do other CRNA or even other students think? Please let me know.

PS. CRNAs: How was the two years you were in school?

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