Published Apr 10, 2016
Nurse2bViolinist
12 Posts
Hey everyone! This is my first thread to start. Yay! :) I am a BSN student and recently applied for the VALOR Program in my area. (For those who don't know, the VALOR Program is essentially a paid internship with the VA for 10 weeks during the summer, and then I think part-time during the school year.)
I am waiting on hearing back about any results, but I am also torn about it. On one hand, my heart lies with the military and veteran community because my husband is in the Army and is a veteran, and has struggled with the "invisible wounds" of war. It can be a difficult road to walk and since I have experience walking alongside him in this journey, I want to help other veterans too. So even before I started nursing school I've had my eye on the VALOR program because it would be a way to get my foot in the VA door/veteran community.
The flip-side is that I am already turned off by the federal system. The application process through USA Jobs and the VA site was convoluted and I had to resubmit my information via email to the program coordinator because it was unclear that a transcript was necessary as part of the application. (It was not indicated under the list of REQUIRED documents.) It was also difficult to touch base with the coordinator. I should've known that it would be this way, since my husband is in the military and deals with things like this all the time.
If I get a spot with the VALOR program, I'll be paid about $20 an hour full-time during the summer, which would be SWEET and there's really no other student nurse job that would pay that much. On the other hand, will I be basically an overpaid CNA? I'm not saying I'm above doing CNA work. But I do want to get experience with RN tasks too. If all I'll be doing is CNA stuff full-time, I'd rather have my summer to do other things (I run a home business and a blog and would like to get caught up with that so things can be more automated during the school year).
Anyhow, this is a very long-winded way of asking: who here has done the VALOR program, what did it entail, and was it worth it to you? :)
Julesmama28
435 Posts
I did it. It's a good program and an amazing way to ease into nursing. I was taught by some great preceptors and had some really great hands on experiences. I was treated like a nurse, it was awesome. The pay doesn't hurt either. Downsides? Not great communication about the actual job status but that's something you can work around. I was offered a permanent job after graduation but I chose another direction. Don't regret my almost year there though, it was great!
sc1211
1 Post
I graduate in December with my ASN and have had my eye on the VALOR program since last August. I'm kind of confused about the process though, can I apply as an ASN if I plan to enroll in a BSN program ASAP?
WookieeRN, BSN, MSN, RN
1,050 Posts
The way it was explained to me is that it is intended for BSN students in their senior year and that you need to be enrolled in a BSN program with I believe 2 semesters or less left.
gere7404, BSN, RN
662 Posts
The VALOR students at my facility get to do a lot of hands on things -- they're much more than glorified CNA's, in fact, from what I've seen a lot of the time the VA nurses just expect you to do everything and use you as a way to pawn off their nursing duties (this could be specific to my VAMC). I'm currently a nursing assistant for the VA and my major responsibility is mostly psychosocial support, I do very little bedside care or traditional CNA stuff.
I'm interviewing for a BSN program locally who is aligned with my VAMC and hope to apply to the VALOR or VANAP program later down the line (I was told 2nd year students can apply), but from what I here they prefer outsiders for those positions for recruiting purposes because "they already got you" if you're a current employee.
nsti
17 Posts
I did the VALOR program after my first year of nursing school. To answer your question, yes, there is a ton of paperwork. I do feel like the experience is more than worth it. In the competitive environment that new grad nurses are coming into, the nurse extern experience gave me the ability to get the job I wanted after graduation. I was on a med surg tele floor and it was all nursing responsibilities. They pick often from the VALOR pool for new grad RNS, but it will depend on the needs of the hospital l ended up in ICU at my VA because spots were open. The pay is nice, and I was able to act as a tech per diem whenever I wanted after I finished my VALOR. However, do not assume that because you got the VALOR they will offer you the job you want after graduation. Also, I ultimately ended up leaving the VA and staying there per diem after two years. I thought the program was the best step into nursing I could have ever had, though.
Nurse_bre
4 Posts
I LOVED the VALOR program. I did the program the summer after my junior year. I learned a lot more there than I had in clinicals. I worked in the ICU and my nurse preceptors were so knowledgeable and eager to teach. I was not a glorified CNA at all, I actually got to use some of my delegating skills for practice! I functioned as a nurse, charting assessments, giving medications while supervised, of course. Practiced IV insertion, how to admit/discharge patients. I even got to tag along to rapid response calls. I highly recommend this program. Now after graduation I didn't apply to the VA but it's definitely an option in the future.
cjcsoon2bnp, MSN, RN, NP
7 Articles; 1,156 Posts
My significant other works for the VA as a Med/Surg. nurse and precepts VALOR students frequently and I also have a friend who completed the VALOR program. As a VALOR you are much more than a "glorified CNA", you get to practice a lot of nursing skills that can include: medication administration, procedures (e.g. foley cath. insertion, IV insertion, NG tube insertion, wound care), assisting with admissions and discharges, document in nursing notes with your preceptor countersigning and much more... It is a 10-week program but some programs allow you to request additional hours and extend your time in the facility if they have needs for ancillary staff on a particular unit. While it's not 100% guaranteed that a VALOR student will be offered a position upon graduation it is highly likely (think of it as they have already made an investment in you and want to see a return). If you get a chance to join this program I would, its a great way of securing employment after graduate and gives you some good experience.
!Chris
nurse826
10 Posts
I work for the VA, and actually work in a department, that chooses and oversees the VALOR program. I cannot say enough about the program, and it will also open doors to the possibility (if you want it) to come back and work as an RN serving our Veterans. There is a lot of hands on training, as well as learning opportunities that the VA gives.
I think it should be something that you give serious thought to!
I work for the VA, and actually work in a department, that chooses and oversees the VALOR program. I cannot say enough about the program, and it will also open doors to the possibility (if you want it) to come back and work as an RN serving our Veterans. There is a lot of hands on training, as well as learning opportunities that the VA gives. I think it should be something that you give serious thought to!
Would you say being a current VA employee is an advantage or disadvantage when applying for a VALOR position?
cloudneoqt
Hi,
I am going to start my BSN program in the Fall of 2016 and would like to know what I should do to prepare me to become a competitive candidate for the VALOR program. I live Rosemead,CA and am willing to commute in the LA area and OC area
Thank you all SO MUCH!! It sounds like everyone has loved the VALOR program and it is totally worth it! So, so good to know. :) I am waiting to hear about an interview via email, so fingers crossed! Now I am sure that I would love to do this program. I was having some doubts (probably also from end of semester stress!) but now my mind is put at ease.
Another question: is it kind of like a preceptorship where your work hours are whatever the RN you are assigned to has? If that makes sense....