Which Level? Extending What?

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Numerous positions posted in Michigan (and elsewhere) titled "Mid Level provider" and "physician extender." First of all, who would actually be confident and proud to post a position looking for a mid level provider? After earning a DNP and gaining experience in various areas, of you would like an advanced practitioner, then yes I would consider it. Advertising that you need and employ mid level providers sounds to consumers as if they're "going to get what's provided and from this clinician that's only MID level care." Who's considered the low level providers? Second, I'm not a physician extender, I'm a nurse. I'm not extending any physician practices. I practice nursing and I'm extending my skills and knowledge to treat you. Now I'm assuming that phrase may be commonly applied to physician assistants, which still delineates the knowledge and skills they're applying to treat patients because they are extending their attending's practices. Any thoughts??

Specializes in Nephrology, Cardiology, ER, ICU.

When we are advocating for independent practice and ability to practice to the scope of our training, what they call me is irrelevant as long as they value me as an employee and pay me accordingly.

At our hospitals we are called APP - advanced practice providers as that encompasses all APRN designations: NP, CNS, CRNA, CNM.

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I don't know about any of you, but other than in the academic setting, I don't know any DNP who insists on being called "Doctor." Anyway, why is everyone all bent out of shape even if we were to call a doctorally trained NP "Doctor"? Why does no one bat an eye when we call a PhD (not in nursing) "Doctor"?

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Specializes in Outpatient Psychiatry.
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Or physical therapist, or lawyer, et al...

Lawyers don't go by doctor despite holding a doctorate. I think there's an ABA statement about that.

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Specializes in Family Nurse Practitioner.
IWhy does no one bat an eye when we call a PhD (not in nursing) "Doctor"?

No worries I find it equally ridiculous that PsyD's call themselves doctor and Physical Therapists now that seriously cracks me up.

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Specializes in ACNP-BC, Adult Critical Care, Cardiology.

Advocating for NP's not being called mid-level providers or physician extenders yet coming off with a denigrating tone by saying the term applies to PA's goes against the political correctness that brought about the issue with these designations in the first place. For the record, PA's as a collective group also do not think they should be addressed as mid-levels or physician extenders.

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oh no another ego driven title topic.

who cares just do work at be good at it

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Specializes in Outpatient Psychiatry.
No worries I find it equally ridiculous that PsyD's call themselves doctor...

Well dammit. I was going to get one of those degrees in my lotto retirement.

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Specializes in Outpatient Psychiatry.
oh no another ego driven title topic.

who cares just do work at be good at it

You need to get busy studying, mister. Then when you graduate, thank daddy for giving you motivation.

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You need to get busy studying, mister. Then when you graduate, thank daddy for giving you motivation.

I know right. When out of motivation I usually listen to the FMJ gunnery Sargent Hartman monologue on youtube.

Our basic science coordinator is a lot like him, so if you bomb tests you get verbally reamed, love getting screamed at, best motivation ever. (at least for me).

as ms1s, we are pretty much grabastic pieces of amphibian ****.

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Specializes in Outpatient Psychiatry.
I know right. When out of motivation I usually listen to the FMJ gunnery Sargent Hartman monologue on youtube.

Our basic science coordinator is a lot like him, so if you bomb tests you get verbally reamed, love getting screamed at, best motivation ever. (at least for me).

as ms1s, we are pretty much grabastic pieces of amphibian ****.

I absolutely love Full Metal Jacket, the boot camp first half at least.

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No worries I find it equally ridiculous that PsyD's call themselves doctor and Physical Therapists now that seriously cracks me up.

The Latin origins of the word doctor means "teacher." It was used for centuries before universities existed, before degrees existed. It meant a person who was qualified to teach a particular subject, whether that be medicine, law, history, etc.

It is not saved for just doctors of medicine. Everyone just needs to get over it.

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Specializes in Neurology, Psychiatry.
oh no another ego driven title topic.

who cares just do work at be good at it

Yes, yes it is. My intention was to create a title that would intrigue others to read my commentary hence why you're here and responded. :)

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