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I was fired because I was acccused of abandoning a patient. I didn't abandon a patient it was a tiff with the charge nurse. Nothing bad happened to the patient. Anyways I still lost my job. Now the State Board is investigating it. I met with a lawyer and he told me that patient abandonment is probation or termination my license. He wanted to charge me 13,000 dollars to maybe get me probation. If I pay him that much I don't want anything on my license. Anyways I cNt afford 13,000 so I'm preparing for the worse. I don't know what to do with career after this. I thought about being a teacher but I read that if you try to get another job with a license that they won't give me another professional license.

Can you give more details about exactly what happened? I know from personal experience that different lawyers will charge different amounts... in Illinois I had quotes of $1,500 to $5000. I would call around more. There has to be more who have experience with the nursing board who charge less. Also, were you given the choice to resign or did they just fire you?

They fired me. In a nutshell i had a patient for 3 days in a row who had an appy. He was upset with his care because he couldn't eat (doctors orders). I over heard him telling the nursing director so I asked the charge nurse to switch me and I was willing to take admits. She said no at the time so then she ga evme an admit so I thought we were switching patients. And she said me if she was taking the patient and I said yes. I asked her if she wanted report and she said no. I didn't chart any of this so kinda shots myself in the foot. Anyways she emailed our manager who spun it where I abandoned the patient. Nothing bad happened to the patient. It was catty nurse stuff. But this accusation ruined my life.

So you didn't even leave the unit... this sounds so bogus. Sorry this is happening. Why couldn't the lawyer defend you more? Did he give a reason? All I can suggest is keep calling different lawyers.

iluvivt, BSN, RN

Specializes in Infusion Nursing, Home Health Infusion.

If this was just a conversation and at no time the patient was without access to you the nurse or a nurse while you on break then it's not abandonment.. Please go to your states web site and check out the definition. You have to accept an assignment and then leave the patient physically or not provide care at all to the patient. Let's say you come on to your shift and you have a assignment with ten patients when you normally have five. You can the go the charge nurse and tell them that you will not accept the assignment since ypu consider it unsafe. This would not constitute abandonment. So far with what you told us I don't see where this applies but again I need more details. It sounds like a witch hunt. How is your relationship with this nurse?

The charge nurse did not like me. She is the floor bully. 2 other nurses left this hospital due to the treatment they had from her. She is lazy and normally isn't a charge nurse.

I'm not going to get into whether this was patient abandonment or not; either way, you already know that what you did wasn't a smart decision and I'm sure you've learned a lot from it. It sounds like this was one hell of a miscommunication. But the main thing here is that your license is worth a lot. I agree with others who have said to shop around for different lawyers--but make sure you get a good one. Think of all the time and money you spent in school and all the years of future employment and benefits you could have--that's all definitely worth the lawyer fees.

I am not going to get a lawyer. I'm going to pray. If I am not meant to be a nurse then I'm not meant to be a nurse. Bulking in nursing is a serious problem with no repercussions. This woman ruined my life with one false statement.

They fired me. In a nutshell i had a patient for 3 days in a row who had an appy. He was upset with his care because he couldn't eat (doctors orders). I over heard him telling the nursing director so I asked the charge nurse to switch me and I was willing to take admits. She said no at the time so then she ga evme an admit so I thought we were switching patients. And she said me if she was taking the patient and I said yes. I asked her if she wanted report and she said no. I didn't chart any of this so kinda shots myself in the foot. Anyways she emailed our manager who spun it where I abandoned the patient. Nothing bad happened to the patient. It was catty nurse stuff. But this accusation ruined my life.

You asked the charge nurse to reassign the patient and she said no. You offered to take an admission, but were you not required to take admissions (as assigned) either way? You asked the charge nurse if she wanted report and she said no. The charge nurse "wrote her name on the board", but wouldn't it be on the board because she was the charge nurse?

It sounds like you were "playing dumb" and it worked a little too well. Were medications or other care skipped or delayed during this "misunderstanding"?

I do wish you well and hope you come out of this unscathed, but it doesn't sound like your behavior was reasonable ...and that's just from what you say- we haven't even heard the other side of the story.

OrganizedChaos, LVN

Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.

I am not going to get a lawyer. I'm going to pray. If I am not meant to be a nurse then I'm not meant to be a nurse. Bulking in nursing is a serious problem with no repercussions. This woman ruined my life with one false statement.

I'm spiritual & everything but God can't protect you from what will happen. If your former workplace wants you to lose your license, they will make it so. You *need* to get a lawyer!

You didn't spend all your time, money, sweat, blood & tears to have it taken away from you. There are good attorneys out there who don't cost an arm, leg, liver & spleen.

TAANA Executive Office - Home

Try that website & good luck.

ETA: It doesn't sound like it was a false statement. From the summarization that Sour Lemon gave, it sounds like pretty cut & dry. You wanted to switch assignments but the charge said no. You still didn't want to deal with your patient because he didn't like you so you didn't. If at any time your patient didn't receive care by you that would be patient abandonment. I can't tell you how many times I've had patients or family members not like me but I still had to take care of the patient. I just suck it up.

Edited by OrganizedChaos

I am not going to get a lawyer. I'm going to pray. If I am not meant to be a nurse then I'm not meant to be a nurse. Bulking in nursing is a serious problem with no repercussions. This woman ruined my life with one false statement.

What if you're having a heart attack? Would you go get treatment or pray that God takes care of it? I would venture to say that you can do BOTH, but I would also say that if God really is up there, and he really did create us, then he must have given us a brain with the capacity for critical/rational thought for a reason. There's nothing wrong with using your resources for self preservation.

I don't know if I should save it. If I'm going to be treated like this idk if I want to be in this profession

Edited by MissouriRN13

kakamegamama

Specializes in MCH,NICU,NNsy,Educ,Village Nursing.

Is it worth keeping my license if you coworkers (nurses) are out to get you? I picked the wrong career because I was not apart of the mean girls and I'm not going to start now.

No matter where you are, there will be "mean girls". That is human nature, the human condition. How valuable is caring for the sick to you? How valuable to you are the hours you spent learning to be a nurse? The answers to those questions only you can give, and those answers will determine what you do regarding fighting for your license.

Is it worth keeping my license if you coworkers (nurses) are out to get you? I picked the wrong career because I was not apart of the mean girls and I'm not going to start now.

That's a pretty bold blanket statement, which I'm sure is because you're so distraught over your current situation, BUT: not ALL your co-workers are "out to get you".

If you want to continue being a nurse, fight it. If not, just admit you don't like it and move on, playing the victim card will only damage you and your future relationships.

Edited by Scottishtape

I don't know if I should save it. If I'm going to be treated like this idk if I want to be in this profession

I'm a firm believer in learning lessons and covering your bases. Will you make another mistake again? Yes. But do you know how to cover your butt so that your mistakes don't result in loss of licensure? In the future just remember to do everything by the book. If you don't want to get accused of patient abandonment, ensure that you gave a full report to another nurse (they have to have the report...they absolutely cannot decline receiving report if they're going to accept the patient), that you don't leave that patient until the next nurse (who received your report) is ready to take that patient, and that the nurse who received the report and is ready for patient care accepted the patient assignment.

I know this is discouraging to you. I know you didn't mean to abandon a patient, and it sounds like the patient still had access to care. This whole situation will pass eventually. Just get through this to the best of your ability. If in the future you decide that you don't want to be a nurse, that's totally fine. But wouldn't you rather make that choice on your own than have it forced on you because you lost your license?

OrganizedChaos, LVN

Specializes in M/S, LTC, Corrections, PDN & drug rehab.

I don't know if I should save it. If I'm going to be treated like this idk if I want to be in this profession

No one is treating you badly. You came to an online forum to get opinions from people. Everyone has their own opinion that you won't necessarily agree with & you can't control the responses you get.

But honestly, it doesn't make sense to just give everything you worked so hard for up. In that sense you are letting your boss win. Why lay down & let them walk all over you? Are you that weak? Or are you gonna show them that no one can take what you want away from you. You can pray all you want, but in the end you have your own mind & can make your own decisions. If you choose to not get a lawyer that wasn't God's choice, that was your own free will & you have to live with the consequences.

Meriwhen, ASN, BSN, RN

Specializes in Psych ICU, addictions.

If you have malpractice insurance, call them for guidance. And get another lawyer consult because 13K seems excessive.

Pray if that helps bring you comfort. But IMO, don't rely on just prayer to carry you through, because the odds are 50% that it will work, and 50% that it won't work. With your license on the line (and BONs frown upon patient abandonment, BTW), are you really comfortable with those odds?

Best of luck.

You asked the charge nurse to reassign the patient and she said no. You offered to take an admission, but were you not required to take admissions (as assigned) either way? You asked the charge nurse if she wanted report and she said no. The charge nurse "wrote her name on the board", but wouldn't it be on the board because she was the charge nurse?

It sounds like you were "playing dumb" and it worked a little too well. Were medications or other care skipped or delayed during this "misunderstanding"?

I do wish you well and hope you come out of this unscathed, but it doesn't sound like your behavior was reasonable ...and that's just from what you say- we haven't even heard the other side of the story.

That's exactly how i read it, too. And the other posts from OP is certainly not painting a prettier picture of the behavior.

Sorry I wouldn't want to work with this person, nor have her take care of me or my loved ones. Very rarely have I ever had a problem with the actual patients - it's usually the families and their unrealistic expectations that drive me up the wall. But that even if it were the patient, I would still not avoid the patient and then play dumb thinking I didn't have the assignment, and further cover myself by reiterating that nothing happened to said patient...

~Mi Vida Loca~RN, ASN, RN

Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.

I am pretty firm in my faith, like completely 100% resolved in it. I would almost bet though from what I have seen only in this thread, you're not going to be able to pray yourself out of this situation. Personally, I don't think that's how it works. However I suggest maybe pray for clarity in self reflecting and the ability to see what you might have done in this situation. If you're willing to throw away your entire career and all you worked for because of this bad experience, that might tell you right there if you're meant for this profession. Me? I would fight with all I had to come to a solution or do everything within my power to at least save my license. But Nursing is very important to me and I worked really hard and for a very long time to get it.

Daisy4RN

Specializes in Travel, Home Health, Med-Surg.

I am not sure that it makes sense for you to assume that the Charge was going to take the patient just because you got an admit. If it were me I would have clarified it with the Charge (since she already had told you no, she wasn't going to take the patient), given report to the Charge (or other nurse), and charted that patient care changed hands, and how the patient was doing at that time (in bed, A&O etc.) I am also not sure why you even wanted to change patients just because the patient was upset about not eating, this happens all the time where I work and its not really a reason to switch. I think we are missing some facts here, but either way I would check with your personal malpractice lawyers first if you have one, if not I would check around for different lawyers to see their prices and what they think about your personal case (outcome based on facts). This is a personal decision that should be considered carefully before you proceed. Weigh pro and cons, what kind of case do they really have (according to the lawyer), what is the probable outcome, how many years were you planning to work, how much money would it cost you either way (fight BON, new career etc). There are always going to be people who like you, and don't like you, no matter where you work so that should not be considered into your decision. Also not sure if you have ever been a Charge RN, but speaking from personal experience I know that some nurses think you are being mean to them because you tell them no (for whatever reason), when they really don't understand the full situation at that time (just something to consider). Either way I hope that you can at least think of this as a learning experience and not let it ruin your nursing career (if you choose to stay). Good luck!

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