I was reading the paper this morning, and this topic was mentioned in teh "Ask Marilyn" column. The question and answer was this
"A question has been bothering me since I moved to a city that is home to some of the finest hospitals in the world. When I use public transportation, I see people wearing scrub suits to work. Is this acceptable? I had thought employees were supposed to change into scrubs provided at the hospital in order to leave outside germs at the door"-
and her answer
"You're right. I've noticed the same phenomenon in other cities, too. If those people are hospital employees they are endangering patients and should be reported to hospital authorities. Another growing problem is scrubs being stolen and word in other places, such as the subway, to convey an impression of respectability. Anyone seen wearing scrubs outside an appropriate environment should be regarded with caution"
What do you think?
WHen i was a student, so recently, we had to wear our scrubs into the hospital, we were told not to change at the hospital. Here I saw the OB nurses and OR nurses were the only ones who had uniforms provided to them to change into at the hospital.
It's not for me to decide if you are in trouble. There are issues of hospital scrub loss, carrying germs to and from work, and how good you look in scrubs. It's up to you to decide. I love scrubs at home but don't like to wear them outside. My choice. Some hospitals allow home washed scrubs and some don't. Their choice. There is no one answer for this interesting thread. IMHO :)
Well, the answer is based oth etichs: "DON NOT HARM" is on of them. If Y or your manager or anyone of the employees, dont do the best for the pt. related to hygiene, or fex. are some part of transferring infections as MRSA AND ANY OTHER TREATH to the pt because their immunesystem are lower just because they are in a hospital with a decease,- that outside, -the hospitals employees can be (for the singel pt), and because Y AS A HEALTHY PERSON CAN TRANSFER FEX. MRSA TO ANYBODY THERE IF YOU DONT RESPECT THE HYGIENE OR INFECTION CIRCLE!
ITS THAT IMPORTANT, THAT IF ANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES HAS BEEN IN COUNTRIES THAT US, ENGLAND, AFRICA, ASIA AND SOME EROPEAN COUNTRIES, AND HAS BEEN WORKED IN A HOSPITAL,(EVEN WITH PAPERS), THEY MUST do A SCREENING AND MEDICAL EXSAMINATION IF THEY ARE STARTING TO WORK AGAIN IN THE HOSPITAL in our country.....This is the chief of infection medicin staff that set the protocol,and has pepole like me, that perform the tests (MRSA, TBC-Mantoux). This is the Health-care authority that made the rules and regulations based on research and infection-control all over the world...
So, its IMPORTANT, SCARY, AND HAS TO DO WITH ATTITUDES.:sofahider
Yes we had a problem. Over 100k per year in scrub losses. Our hospital provides lockers and changing rooms for everyone. People that decide to purchase and wear scrubs instead of a uniform or street clothes (to work) are and should be allowed to wear them where ever they want. Hospital policy is that hospital supplied scrubs are to stay in the hospital.
:wink2: I can understand the problem for the hospital! We are actually paying or do a deposit for our working habits when we are beginning in a new job. If quitting, y get all back if you leave all of the uniforms back...
If people is stealing....I cant believe the etichs...
I went out to dinner saturday night after work in my scrubs. Am I in trouble?
I hope this dinner was out on your working place at the cafeteria in the hospital!
If not, I think you have a huge lack of understanding hygiene, infection-controll, lack of knowledge and attitude related to your colleges that fight every day against MRSA as an example.
I can ensure you that this is not about y and your scrub only, this is a global problem, that can kill people. MRSA, that y probably dont have heard about! Do me a fawer and read about it. I have lost relatives cause of that MRSA, I have lost a friend, because of people who doesnt care abaut the rules, regulations, infection-control system. I am talking about not respecting the policy and Hospital rules and regulations. They want the best for the single pt. And if you are dressing like this, even the scrub was clean, its not meant for using as a dress for eating out, unless this is a cafeteria for the hospital.
I hope this dinner was out on your working place at the cafeteria in the hospital!
If not, I think you have a huge lack of understanding hygiene, infection-controll, lack of knowledge and attitude related to your colleges that fight every day against MRSA as an example.
I can ensure you that this is not about y and your scrub only, this is a global problem, that can kill people. MRSA, that y probably dont have heard about! Do me a fawer and read about it. I have lost relatives cause of that MRSA, I have lost a friend, because of people who doesnt care abaut the rules, regulations, infection-control system. I am talking about not respecting the policy and Hospital rules and regulations. They want the best for the single pt. And if you are dressing like this, even the scrub was clean, its not meant for using as a dress for eating out, unless this is a cafeteria for the hospital.
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um...thanks for the lecture and all
Tomorrow night I just might go dancing after work, wanna go?
I am sorry but I have not read the other threads here only the opening thread. Only here to make a comment or add my two cents. In the old days, yes, scrubs were provided by a hospital for all of the specialty areas, that is no longer the case. Now they are usually only provided in the OR, Sterile processing, as well as Labor and Delivery. They are no longer provided in most NICUs, PACUs, etc.
Uniforms are no longer required to be white in many facilities, and many choose to purchase their own uniforms, which happen to be "scrubs." It is not any different from seeing a nurse in white "in the old days" out shopping after work, etc. Were they expected to go home and change first? Many stopped to run errands on the way home from work. They would change shoes at times just because of adverse weather conditions, but nothing more.
So just because someone is wearing scrubs, it doesn't mean that they have taken them from the hospital or facility. Chances are that they are wearing their own.
There are uniforms available in scrub style in various colors, including the same colors that we have gotten used to being called "hospital" scrubs, either the faded blue or green. They can be purchased at any uniform store, I even bought some last year at Costco for $14.95 per pair.
So do not assume that because the nurse is wearing scrubs that they have not purchased them, unless the name of the facility is in big letters across their chest or saying "Property of...."
I also disagree that wearing a uniform (scrubs/other) outside of the hospital is always an infection control risk.
Yes, its the care of the patients I am concerned of, so its very nice to to hear about somone that really care in this way. Even it is of course many other ways to take care of, do their nursing that also count: knowledge, etichs and of course much more....
Tomorrow night I just might go dancing after work, wanna go?
I hope Y'r understanding, as a professional nurse, and act like that! This note was not done to offend you, but open your eyes, if your notes waseded irony....Y'e the answer.
If Y'r asking me out for dancing tomorrow, .....take a look of our distance.... If Y promice to use y'r privat wardrobe, the person you might ask for a dance, this will give you respect for what you are as a privat person.
A professional nurse never dance at the work or out in a scrub. Take care of youreselves and I wish you good luck and a happy new year as a professional, discent nurse.
I hope this dinner was out on your working place at the cafeteria in the hospital!
If not, I think you have a huge lack of understanding hygiene, infection-controll, lack of knowledge and attitude related to your colleges that fight every day against MRSA as an example.
Scrubs or not, there is no way i could 100% avoid MRSA. IT IS everywhere.
Scrubs or not, there is no way i could 100% avoid MRSA. IT IS everywhere.
I have to tell Y that is absolutely many ways to avoid MRSA!!!!One of them has to be connected to your working habits.
There are MENY OTHER, TOO. I AM TALKING AT PREVENTION AND TREATMENT. WHERE DO Y HAVE YOUR RESEARCG SOURSES FROM?
In Europe we have a continuating research going on on how to handle MRSA, ISOLATION, HOW TO SANATE, AND HOW TO HEAL SOMBODY WHO HAS GOT MRSA. MANY DIES FROM THAT DESCIES, BUT MANY SURVIVE, TOO!!!!
this is actually what I am working with at this moment; screening, preeventing and healing, so together with the Cheif of Infection Medicine, we are saving lives.
I have to tell Y that is absolutely many ways to avoid MRSA!!!!One of them has to be connected to your working habits.
I'm aware of this, but what i said was "there's no way i could 100% avoid MRSA" whether i wear my scrubs or not. Working habits or not, if i go to the local grocery store, it's already living on the cart in the front of the store.
I'm aware of this, but what i said was "there's no way i could 100% avoid MRSA" whether i wear my scrubs or not. Working habits or not, if i go to the local grocery store, it's already living on the cart in the front of the store.
OK:YOU DONT BELONG IN A SCRUB OR HEALTHCARE JOB IF YOU HAVE MRSA, SORRY!!!
GOOD ATTITUDES, NOT ONLY IN OR, BUT IN EVERY SINGLE HOSPITAL, NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF WARDS, UNITS, AND ALSO CLINICS/OR ROOMS WHERE PEOLE ARE TOGETHER, AND NO ONE THERE HAS THE MRSA, BUT MAYBE ONE PERSON HAS WORKED WITH PEOPLE/OR BEING TOGETHER WITH THAT D. IS A THREAT. SORRY TO TELL.
DO YOU OR ANYBODY KNOW HOW TO SCREEN FOR MRSA? ITS A PROCEDURE THAT TAKES WEEKS! AND OF COURSE Y CANT HAVE A JOB, THEN, Y HAVE TO BE TREATENED!!! And as an occup. nurse the last years, it was my job to visit the OR and explain proceedures, when taking care of pt. with MRSA in the OR, where everything seemed to be so clean or sterile. The procedure in OR is exstremely important...Well, it seem to me that you know much about it, so tell us the way we are fighting against it!!!!Just for my learning, it is very interesting if y'r hospital do that procedure in a different way.
If some employee has MRSA THEY MUST WAIT UNTIL ITS TREATENED, UNLESS THEY CAN WORK. WE ARE DEFENDING OUR PT, RELATIVES AND EMPLOYEES, BY DOING THAT.
I hope Y'r understanding, as a professional nurse, and act like that! This note was not done to offend you, but open your eyes, if your notes waseded irony....Y'e the answer.
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ITS THAT IMPORTANT, THAT IF ANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES HAS BEEN IN COUNTRIES THAT US, ENGLAND, AFRICA, ASIA AND SOME EROPEAN COUNTRIES, AND HAS BEEN WORKED IN A HOSPITAL,(EVEN WITH PAPERS), THEY MUST do A SCREENING AND MEDICAL EXSAMINATION IF THEY ARE STARTING TO WORK AGAIN IN THE HOSPITAL in our country.....This is the chief of infection medicin staff that set the protocol,and has pepole like me, that perform the tests (MRSA, TBC-Mantoux). This is the Health-care authority that made the rules and regulations based on research and infection-control all over the world...
So, its IMPORTANT, SCARY, AND HAS TO DO WITH ATTITUDES.:sofahider