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So, let me start by saying that I *think* I work for a good company. It's a non-profit health care company, an umbrella company for the largest health insurance corporation in the U.S. Heard they offer nice benefits and decent pay, so that's why I sought them out.
That being said, they know all of the SCIP protocols and every other reimbursement rule very, very well and basically pay these unit managers to nag the floor managers to check on all of our charting and the doctors' orders and have US call the docs and whatnot to get things 'corrected' and up to their standards all throughout the day on top of non-stop admissions, discharges, transfers, testing, and calls from everyone in the hospital.
Well, so I'm working in this new very busy environment (employed two months), only got 9 days of floor orientation (and that's because I asked for a little more than 7 days when I saw how busy and demanding of a floor this is)...
And what happened yesterday just might be the straw that broke the camel's back! It was about 0935. I was right in the middle of getting orders to transfuse a patient in need, address medicating a fresh post-op patient with a new PE, and getting another's things in order to discharge around noon. When I was passing one of my patient's medications (turn and check q2h), she says 'oh, I think I need to be changed.' I said, 'ok, I will call the tech and get her in to help you.' Did just that. She said: 'yeah, I was going in there to give her a bath.' Ok, good.
Well, the tech doesn't check turn, or change the patient, she just sets her up to eat her food. I said, did you reposition and change this patient? 'She got very nasty and rude and said 'if you saw that the brief needed changed, then why didn't YOU change it?!' I said: because I delegated that task to you. I am busy doing other things right now, such as passing meds.
So, this tech goes straight into our unit manager's office and complains. Claims she thinks I "hate her". So, my boss pulls me into her office and rehashes this nonsense. Basically aide insubordination and says that most nurses would've just changed this patient's brief. I said: yes, I would have without any problem. It's just that I had X, Y, and Z to do at that very moment, so I called the tech in to assist this patient with this matter (patient had no complaint btw). Boss says she sees both sides, and that if this happens again maybe we can both go into her office for "mediation".
I said: why don't we just do that now, because I will need to feel like I can communicate with my techs and vice versa.
So, this tech comes in and repeats that she "thinks I hate her". (WHAT?!) I say: No, I don't hate you and have no reason to hate you. She wouldn't be honest about the verbal interaction we had, that's just about all she said. I was at a loss for words, and not to be rude, but I was thinking that I wasn't talking to an emotionally mature individual at that point, so it was pointless.
The boss didn't help or "mediate" at all. She said ok, now the air is cleared and we can go back to work! Nothing more!
I feel very unsupported and wonder if this seems normal or a little out of line. I don't see the point in having techs if they will not take direction, or if they don't understand that they need to take direction from us without a bunch of attitude and resistance.
Shouldn't the unit manager back us nurses up? Set some expectations for us other than -- If an order wasn't put in right, you must call the doctor incessantly (and it's our fault if nothing is accomplished?!)
Or, if a tech doesn't feel like accepting your delegation, you just need to do it (what about MY prioritization of care ---like my PE patient and the one who needed blood?!)
Feels like she is tying our hands.
I strongly suspect the tech has a victim mentality/persecution complex problem, they probably have a history of targeting new staff and making wrongful accusations about colleagues who delegate tasks to them. I don't agree with those who are advising you to write the tech up, because this disciplinary tactic doesn't work with this personality type (I wish it did). I recommend you have a private discussion with the manager, if they are a seasoned manager, they should have some suggestions on how to manage this type of colleague, if they don't offer advice, speak to human resources.
I just think if a person can't do their job satisfactorily, they should be talked to about it so they are aware of any problems. This tech LIED to the unit manager about what I asked her to do. Like I said, I don't have time to coddle staff on this floor. I really don't. And if a person has emotional or mental issues that keep the from doing a decent job or makes it so they can't communicate or listen effectively, they need to seek treatment so that they can do their job or go work somewhere else.
IF what you said is true about this individual, don't you think the manager should have said something to me about dealing with this sort of thing? I honestly think my manager has no clue. She didn't even "mediate". AND she walked down with me to show me where the blood bank was (finally got the pt type and crossed and available product) she said -0- about it. On the elevator I was hinting, wondering, waiting... nada. Then she went to lunch.
I didn't think *I* should say anymore, I mean, the tech just accused me of "HATING" her, lied about what I delegated, and couldn't give one example of why she thought I "HATED" her when I asked her in the manager's office. The manager was sitting right there, even more speechless than I was. I was just thinking this is /was RIDICULOUS that I am being pulled away from patient care to hear this absolute nonsense.
@cola, I used to think like you, I used to believe that employees with emotional problems could be dealt with in a straight forward manner and if the employees' problems were not resolved, it was the managers fault. However, after years of working with numerous managers, and dealing with colleagues with emotional issues, I now know, the solutions are not as straight forward as I once thought they were.
Anyways, maybe I'm answering my own question --- think I'm lookin for another job because the unit sucks and maybe it's partly because the nature of the hospital and the type of floor and partly because the manager is ineffective.
In this day and age there is also a BIG shortage of CNAs and techs. Why? Back breaking work and low pay. How did the facility I work for fix that? We went to primary care. Got rid of all CNAs/techs. But they didn't reduce assignment load. Not helpful at all except for getting negative attitudes off of the floor. This is the other reason many managers let CNAs and techs run the show. At least in my area. My cousin who used to work as a tech told me that she could stay home on got assistance and make double the money that she could make working FT + OT as a tech...
Anyways, maybe I'm answering my own question --- think I'm lookin for another job because the unit sucks and maybe it's partly because the nature of the hospital and the type of floor and partly because the manager is ineffective.
Good luck. I've changed jobs because of ineffective management.
Unfortunately, good managers are hard to find. When you find one, let me know, I'll come work with you!
In this day and age there is also a BIG shortage of CNAs and techs. Why? Back breaking work and low pay. How did the facility I work for fix that? We went to primary care. Got rid of all CNAs/techs. But they didn't reduce assignment load. Not helpful at all except for getting negative attitudes off of the floor. This is the other reason many managers let CNAs and techs run the show. At least in my area. My cousin who used to work as a tech told me that she could stay home on got assistance and make double the money that she could make working FT + OT as a tech...
One of my former classmates works in another city and they did take away the techs on nights and left one for a floor of 25 patients on days. Their pay rate and nurse to patient ratios are the same as where I work. It has to be hard. They will probably have a hard time keeping nurses next. Then what?!
One of my former classmates works in another city and they did take away the techs on nights and left one for a floor of 25 patients on days. Their pay rate and nurse to patient ratios are the same as where I work. It has to be hard. They will probably have a hard time keeping nurses next. Then what?!
Once they start losing nurses due to unmanageble workloads, the management will realize they created a shortage cycle and will start hiring techs again.
Nursing employers go in shortage/surplus circles because of poor management decisions and an unwillingness to learn from past mistakes. Management calls it "change" and "restructuring" but those who have been in nursing long enough, realize it is just going in circles.
I don't know what to tell you.
There are some people who are just incredibly difficult to deal with (or get rid of). I know one of my now former coworkers was difficult to work with (cultural issues to name one). I now know every time my manager tried to deal with them (initially) this coworker went above her to someone else to get it "fixed". Not only that, this coworker was super devious because s/he never acted in the worst ways when our boss or other managers were around. Our manager had to try REALLY hard to catch this coworker in the act (of what we said s/he did). This coworker caught on to us paging our manager when their stuff was going down and put pressure on us for "being a snitch". So some of us just tolerated the more benign of this coworker's behaviors - just knew how to work without setting them off or ignoring their stupid behaviors that weren't right. Then the more serious stuff (not just coworker-coworker issues but patient safety and legal issues) started. At that time, my boss was out on FMLA so we were reporting these events to and the coworker being caught in the act by more senior management. At this same time, this coworker was being ridiculous in general and multiple surgeons reported their behavior. I know it may not be easy, but eventually, your coworker will get what is coming to them/what they've earned. Despite taking forever, it's done, the coworker is gone. Now that my (now former) coworker is gone, people are sharing stories about their worst experiences with s/he, and management is appalled - people wouldn't come forward with this stuff because of fear of retribution from this now former coworker (I can speak to that, the last thing I reported them for, I was threatened by the coworker after the fact).
It's hard sometimes, to accept that eventually karma will bite your coworker in the butt for their actions. Some way, some how, what they have put out into the world will get back to them. May not even be a work-related event but it will get them in time. I learned a lot about myself and how to handle myself, how not to be, when working with this now former coworker. It made me a stronger person in many ways. I didn't always see how much my manager was trying to help us, because it can be really hard "in the trenches" in a situation to see a perspective other than what you see yourself. Having become a seasoned and experienced, one of the most experienced staff on our "team", I can see a little different perspective now than I did when I was new and frustrated.
I've found, you learn how to handle specific coworkers sometimes. There are a few others who are challenging sometimes, but you learn what works and work well together even when they're challenging (this is a two way street, sometimes I'm the challenging one). I don't know, when it's an occasional thing, when it's not every day, I try to be understanding (we're all capable of those days).
OP, you are caught between a lazy tech and a useless manager. If you could do her job and yours, too, then why have they hired her? She's using victim behaviour to weasel out of working and your manager is too stupid or lazy to deal with it appropriately. She needed to show the tech her job description and remind her what she is there to do.
I think you are smart to start looking for a new job. That ship can sink without you.
dishes, BSN, RN
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I strongly suspect the tech has a victim mentality/persecution complex problem, they probably have a history of targeting new staff and making wrongful accusations about colleagues who delegate tasks to them. I don't agree with those who are advising you to write the tech up, because this disciplinary tactic doesn't work with this personality type (I wish it did). I recommend you have a private discussion with the manager, if they are a seasoned manager, they should have some suggestions on how to manage this type of colleague, if they don't offer advice, speak to human resources.