some truths about CNM salaries and benefits

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What school did not prepare me for was how much salary I should expect to get, and how to negotiate it, so I'm here to share my experience with you because salary seems to be a bit of a elusive topic. Nobody wants to talk about how much they make, so it's hard to pin it down.

I have had people offering me and my classmates a range of salaries from over 75K to over 100,000K (over many areas and states). One outlier, a private OB hiring a CNM for the first time, offered me 65K. He had googled it and was sincerely surprised that when I told him it was far too low. After doing some googling myself, I realized that there sites out there that really underrates our pays.

Google "salary cnm" and you are usually led to payscale.com, which uses a special scientific method (sarcasm intended) to rate it unrealistically low.

Go to midwifejobs.com, the official ACNM site, and it's on the FAQ, but they won't commit to giving a range ("widely varies").

So far, I found this site to be most realistic representation of what I am personally seeing.

http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layouthtmls/swzl_compresult_national_HC07000229.html.

As far as benefits and hours go, private companies seem to be able to give less, but make you work more. In one private practice, I was to work 5 days a week 8 hours a day, but on 2 of those days, I am also on call 24 hours. In addition, I had to be on call every third weekend. I was quite shocked at how they expect me to physically function that way - that is, if you are up 24 hours, how do go in for another 8 hours of seeing patients?

Then I realized that mostly, the providers sleep in the call rooms until it's time to catch a baby.

In some big hospitals and birth centers, the standard that I have seen are 40 hours - 2x8hours clinics, and 2x12hours. I like that because besides working under more humane conditions, I am able to provide labor support and spend more time with my laboring women when I'm on. Many hospital do have calls.

Bigger places come with bigger benefits, usually, not not necessarily - average 4 wks vacation, 1 wk paid CME, personal days, better healthcare, and .

I know nothing about women who start their own practices, but that's probably a whole different experience.

So.... I hope that gives some of you a better idea. If anybody can share their experiences, I would love to hear.

chayaN can u PM me--I am new and have not figured it out yet-thanks!

Ok, so I just figured out that I can't PM (and maybe can't get PM's either, not sure) b/c I'm too new!

Anyway, just 2 cents on what CNM's make per birth who are in private practice:

homebirth midwives in NY (where you and I live, ChayaN) get reimbursed very nicely

b/c they get both a facility fee (hey...my house is a facility?) and practitioner's fee.

That can total usually $4000-7500 (maybe more, but it's the most I've heard of actually getting paid).

But if the same midwife practices in the hospital, she loses the first fee, and winds up with about

$2000-3000 for most NY HMO's. PPO's can pay upwards of $5000, which is why a lot of the successful

NYC mw's only take those. So it's a huge variety--if she's struggling to build a practice she might

be bringing home very little at the end of the day, but if she's got 5-6 (some of them have more)

births per month, they can do very nicely--esp. the HB mw's and hospital mw's who are able to

get the PPO clients.

Specializes in Pediatric Pulmonology and Allergy.
chayaN can u PM me--I am new and have not figured it out yet-thanks!

Shayna, I PM'd you. Were you able to receive it?

I did get it but cannot PM back.

Would be interested in knowing more about the accelerated BSN at Downstate

and how that is going with kids, etc...

Please email me.

Regards,

Shayna

This is all kind of sad. I wanted to work as a FNP until my son gets older, then get my CNM. But it seems it will be a paycut.

I have one question, I am almost 45 years old. I am one course shy of an MSN. I have been "thinking" of getting a post-Masters's in nurse midwifery. One school told me I could do this in a year full-time and two part-time. I am one of those nurses with many years (23) of experience. Is anyone else older like me? I also like the idea of shifts and of having my back-up right there in a larger institution. I have worked for years in a small hospital where there is no 24/7 coverage. By the time I would start back in school and finish (I have to get rid of some bills, so I could work part-time while going for the CNM), I'd be 47-48 years old. Does that seem reasonable? Am i too old to still be considering this and to have a long career as a CNM? I am sure I will need to be working past age 70 as I hope to live long and anticipate needing the money. I also do very much like to work.

I think it's beautiful that you want to go on to serve women.

I am only 33 and worrried that by the time I grad midwifery school

will probably be close to 40-- but I figure I can do it until 60.

Somehow I just don't see working past that point--

I know I'll always be involved in some way--

mentoring, teaching, maybe opening a birthing center one day...

but I don't see getting up in the middle of the night and

rubbing backs and kneeling down on the floor to catch babies

mcuh after that...

anybody here know a vibrant mw over 60?

my business partner is over 60 and still loves every minute of. She can keep going long after I need a bed (and I'm in my 40s).

that's awesome! when did she start?

How saturated is this field with male CNMs? How are the job prospects for them that are in the field? How much of a demand is there for men? Thanks in advanced

MLH

Specializes in L&D.

I'm not sure what you mean by "saturated." We have a lot of midwives who deliver at our facility (maybe 25?), and two of them are men. I haven't come across any patients who didn't want them solely because they were male.

I'm starting college soon and have thought of one day becoming an obstetrician. I am intrigued by the idea of working with pregnant women and babies but I have started to think I would be a better nurse than doctor and would prefer being a nurse. I have been doing some research on nurse midwives and labor and delivery nurses and all the posts on this topic have been very insightful.

I'm just curious would anyone recommend I pursue this career?

about how many years of schooling would it take me to get there?

will I be able to have a good family life? (vacations, money, time with kids.....I know this will vary depending on where I would be employed but just wondering on average)

Is anyone doing this job on Long Island, NY? That is where I live and would like to work in the future.

Your personal stories are of interest to me- not just facts about the job but about the overall life you lead as a nurse midwife

thanks!

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