Tired of EMS thinking they can walk in!

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This thread has evolved from a pevious thread of EMS (one in particular) thinking they are more than qualified to work right along side a licensed RN in the ED just because they.....scoop and tx pre-hospital, or observe licensed RNs in the ED to BE A REGISTERED RN. Note: this person is currently in nursing school because their state requires additional education to become an RN like every other state in the USA! Ticks me off that this medic feels justified that his/her nonlicense schooling qualifies he/she to be licensed as an RN....Ignorance is bliss I guess!@#$%%^:twocents::down::angryfire:banghead:......

Specializes in ER/ICU/Flight.
That said, we are all on the same team and everyone has an important and vital role. We are not the enemies....the doctors are! ha-ha just joking. The pts are the real enemies.....

That is classic!!

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Reading the closed post I saw where the medic presumed to walk right in to the ED and function just as an RN. Medics have their honorable role and I love working with them. But, I think I would have a problem with someone who hasn't been licensed to practice in nursing allowed to do so because of a shortage.

I guess that is where we differ on opinions. I don't see it as an unlicensed personnel being allowed to function as an rn. I see it as a licensed medic being taught how to take what they already are licensed to do and apply it in house rather than in the field.

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Specializes in ER.
I guess that is where we differ on opinions. I don't see it as an unlicensed personnel being allowed to function as an rn. I see it as a licensed medic being taught how to take what they already are licensed to do and apply it in house rather than in the field.

Well, we can agree to disagree then I guess. Being a licensed medic and being an RN are different. Don't get me wrong, I love our medics. But the licensure is different.

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Specializes in ER,ICU,L+D,OR.
Well, we can agree to disagree then I guess. Being a licensed medic and being an RN are different. Don't get me wrong, I love our medics. But the licensure is different.

The license is different, the job is the same to take of patients. To function as a team. They have been taught to assess so have we. But we function together as a team and marvelous things can happen

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Specializes in ER.
The license is different, the job is the same to take of patients. To function as a team. They have been taught to assess so have we. But we function together as a team and marvelous things can happen

Functioning as a team is a great thing and our teams do so. I'm wondering when nurses start taking medics jobs or medics taking nursing jobs away from each other if attitudes about this topic will change. Sounds like some hospitals already hire medics over RNs in some areas according to posts. That's where I might have a problem with it.

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Specializes in ER,ICU,L+D,OR.
Functioning as a team is a great thing and our teams do so. I'm wondering when nurses start taking medics jobs or medics taking nursing jobs away from each other if attitudes about this topic will change. Sounds like some hospitals already hire medics over RNs in some areas according to posts. That's where I might have a problem with it.

RNs are nurses Medics are medics. They complement each other. We dont take over for the other. They are hired in ERs to make life easier for the nurses and the care quicker. We work together, is all.

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Specializes in ER.
RNs are nurses Medics are medics. They complement each other. We dont take over for the other. They are hired in ERs to make life easier for the nurses and the care quicker. We work together, is all.

Tweety,

If the medics are working as RNs, doing the same things as RNs, I would think there might be some RNs looking for that particular job that was filled already by a medic is all I am saying. I am not saying we do not work as a team or that medics don't compliment the team, thankfully my state requires your RN to practice as an RN. I am specifically talking of medics allowed to practice as if they are an RN and ERs hiring them.

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thankfully my state requires your RN to practice as an RN. I am specifically talking of medics allowed to practice as if they are an RN and ERs hiring them.

They require you to be licensed as an RN to practice as one here as well. Same with medics. To practice as a medic you have to be licensed as one. Medics here are not practicing as RN's in the ER. They are practicing as medics in house, but as we have mentioned before there is much overlap in the two jobs.

I guess a good analogy might be a np and a pa. While they function in much the same way and have much overlap in their jobs, the training is very different. Much like an rn and pm.

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Specializes in ER.
They require you to be licensed as an RN to practice as one here as well. Same with medics. To practice as a medic you have to be licensed as one. Medics here are not practicing as RN's in the ER. They are practicing as medics in house, but as we have mentioned before there is much overlap in the two jobs.

I guess a good analogy might be a np and a pa. While they function in much the same way and have much overlap in their jobs, the training is very different. Much like an rn and pm.

agree:D

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Specializes in ER,ICU,L+D,OR.

I like EMT help in the ER.

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Specializes in ER.

I am a CCEMTP and an ER RN. It is rare to find someone who really understands what is like to be pre-hospital if you've never done it before and vice versa. I think you may have just been rubbed wrong by a person who is perhaps a "know-it-all"..... all fields of medicine, and life, have people like this, not fair to generalize like that.

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Specializes in NICU, Post-partum.
in our defense, paramedics are usually associate's or bachelor's trained and have to pass a national registry examination. most states also require licensure. i for one am not a shake and bake medic.

This part of your post jumped out at me..I have actually never seen at any college a Bachelor degree paramedic program. Tons of certificate and associate programs...but have never seen a 4-year.

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