Thread for Filipino Nursing Students

I think studying at st.ignatius would be "suicide"!! Look at the fees! And that's only for ADN. Yeah maybe you'd be eligible for Nclex, but that NCLEX-PN only not NCLEX RN. COme to think of it, you're a second courser, why would you waste so much money for an ADN degree when you can get the BSN degree at the same time with so so so muccch savings!? Besides, with BSN you get to learn more nursing skills, etc. With ADN, you won't get paid the same rate as an RN. And there's no assurance that ADN can be your ticket for a green card. And even if you spend the final semester in California that's not an assurance that you can get a job right away. There's a lot of people here under student visa who graduated in US that still faces problems regarding getting a job, or even getting their license. If you know what I mean... St. Ignasius students are no exemption.

yeah maybe you'd be eligible for nclex, but that nclex-pn only not nclex rn. with adn, you won't get paid the same rate as an rn. .

adn graduates can sit for the nclex-rn. based on the other forums, there is very little or no wage difference between a adn and bsn graduate for entry level nursing. an entry level nurse, whether adn or bsn will have the same responsibilities.

Sounds like an interesting program. But be cautious though.....if it's too good to be true, it probably is! Research on what the program is all about. And during the orientation, be sure to do your homework.....ask questions about it and verify when necessary. Be careful of the "sales talk" that they can give you instead of giving you the real deal. Good luck and have a great day.

the program is way too expensive for phil. standards. if anyone can afford it, i think they'll be those who can live comfortably and may somehow have a "lesser" need to get out of the country. i don't think it's worth it...you may get to the u.s. faster but you stand to lose more if it proves unsuccessful.

unless anybody knows about this school and it's reputation (any affiliation with our bigger institutions?), it doesn't have anything to show and prove that it's no doubt capable of delivering what it promises...please be careful. it's doesn't really matter how fast you can get to the u.s. what's more important is how legitimate the path you chose.

unless anybody knows about this school and it's reputation (any affiliation with our bigger institutions?), it doesn't have anything to show and prove that it's no doubt capable of delivering what it promises...

For those who are interested, there's also a full page advertisement on the major newspapers (Feb 23 Phil Daily Inquirer,A8 and Feb 13 Philippine Star) with President Arroyo's message for the school. As well as messages from the Supervising Nursing Education Consultant of the Board of Registered Nursing, State of California; President of Fresno City College; Assistant Department Manager of Kaiser Permanente Medical Center.

I agree that there are a couple of risks associated with this program like: (1) being denied a student visa and thus not being able to finish in the US or (2) not making the GPA requirement of Fresno City College (they require a GPA of at least 3.0 and that the student passes the school's NCLEX review to be admitted).

I guess it really depends on the person if he/she thinks that this is something worth investing in. Anyway, if all else fails, he/she can always finish with a BSN at a local school.

It's just really a matter of perspective. Come to think of it, you get a US ADN degree (without the wait) for only $15,000 versus approximately $30,000 if you complete the entire course in the US (assuming $6,000 tuition for 5 semesters).

I think the said affiliation fee doesn't really give you that much value-added unless it means that they will give the school the right to use their US-prepared modules or they will send US-trained instructors...better yet, have something in place for the Pinoy int'l student to transition from student status to employment and legal immigrant status. I doubt it, really, as such things are beyond any school's concerns and therefore "affiliation" fees don't mean anymore than just nominal "face" fees...nothing more.

This is actually going to be my dilemma in less than 2 years. I'm on student visa now and I can only hope that where I'll be doing my clinical duties, I'll find a reasonable, willing employer-sponsor. Not only do I feel I'm in competition with the rest of US nursing students, I'm actually also elbowing my way towards employment alongside many kababayans, BSN holders with solid nursing experience at that, who may not even be physically present in the US. Truly, I don't think I'll be in a better position because even if I'll be a US-ADN nursing graduate, I'll still be subordinate to BSN holders who have better grounding, skills and knowledge base. The US has been hiring and sponsoring Pinoy nurses for countless years past and I'm sure they've become familiar with Pinoys' abilities/strengths (even weaknesses!) that gap(s) between US-trained or Philippine-trained nurses is hardly a problem anymore. Employers will primarily be interested in your education, skills and experience more than your physical presence in the US.

Between time and money, I'm inclined to give more weight to money. Nursing is a profession that you master through time and you simply can't go wrong with practice (and a tons of patience towards your patients!). Besides, the demand for nurses is at least a decade more. As to money, you better believe that it doesn't grow on trees. Get more "bang" out of it.

I think the said affiliation fee doesn't really give you that much value-added unless it means that they will give the school the right to use their US-prepared modules or they will send US-trained instructors....

The school is following the exact curriculum as Fresno and will be providing the materials (we're not going to spend a single cent on books -- everything is included in the tuiton) plus the school will be using NCLEX review modules from Fresno which has yielded a 98% pass rate.

Truly, I don't think I'll be in a better position because even if I'll be a US-ADN nursing graduate, I'll still be subordinate to BSN holders who have better grounding, skills and knowledge base. Employers will primarily be interested in your education, skills and experience more than your physical presence in the US

I still see the benefits of choosing this program. I think I will get the best of both worlds: solid training/experience/exposure from the Philippine hospitals and the recognition of a US degree.

i guess it really depends on the person if he/she thinks that this is something worth investing in. anyway, if all else fails, he/she can always finish with a bsn at a local school.

the school does not offer a full bsn program?

so if you fail to reach the gpa requirement, or if you run out of money, then you have to transfer to another school?

bad situation: too risky, too expensive.

fyi, it is not easy to transfer schools, especially from a relatively unknown (1st time i heard of this school) school to other ched-accredited schools.

you might have to start from scratch if you transfer.

btw, is this school recognized by the ched? is the philippine bon aware of the program? the philippine bon is the authority regulating all nursing education in the country. it's easy to ask the philippine bon--just go to prc, go up to the 3rd floor, and ask the secretaries there, or if you're lucky, maybe one of the bon members. better be safe than sorry.

the school is following the exact curriculum as fresno and will be providing the materials (we're not going to spend a single cent on books -- everything is included in the tuiton)

plus the school will be using nclex review modules from fresno which has yielded a 98% pass rate.

nclex reviews are all over manila--you can even take kaplan, which gives the same review here as in the us.

98% pass rate? do you know how some schools attain this?

here in the philippines, some schools give you a pre-board exam, and if you fail, they will not allow you to take the boards. to my knowledge, 2 schools have filed complaints with the ched regarding this practice.

i still see the benefits of choosing this program. i think i will get the best of both worlds: solid training/experience/exposure from the philippine hospitals and the recognition of a us degree.

even among the established nursing schools, they're having problems with hospital affiliations. there are just too many nursing schools here in the philippines, especially manila, right now. have you asked this school if it has a base hospital? about the affiliated hospitals where you will go on duty?

so your claim about a "solid training/experience/exposure from the philippine hospitals" may not be true.

come to think of it, i wouldn't bet on "the recognition of a us degree" until i have it in my hands. do you know of any graduates from your school that have successfully completed the program & have used this "us degree" to land a job in the us? coz if you graduate from this program & do not get a job in the us, i doubt if you can get a job as a nurse here in the philippines. not even a midwife, coz you have to pass the midwifery board exam for that.

fyi, for the june 2006 local boards, some students from different schools still have incomplete cases. the deadline for filing is near. they may not be taking the boards if they do not complete the requirements. so there is a shortage of hospitals to go around for the nursing schools.

it's just really a matter of perspective.

come to think of it, you get a us adn degree (without the wait) for only $15,000 versus approximately $30,000 if you complete the entire course in the us (assuming $6,000 tuition for 5 semesters).

i am not posting this to dissuade you, seeing that you're very much convinced about the wisdom of choosing this school.

i am posting this to enlighten the other forum members what to look for in a nursing school, and how to check.

i would be interested in the answers to the questions i raised.

good luck with your choice.

hello everyone! just want to help those searching for nursing schools (for bsn degree) in metro manila that accept 2nd coursers. some that i know are the following:

philippine women's university (pwu), metropolitan hospital college of nursing, saci (formerly udmc) near welcome rotonda, arellano university, de ocampo college at the foot of nagtahan bridge, pchs in recto, dr. lanting college, fatima university, perpetual help university, st. jude college, de los santos-sti college of health professions (formerly de los santos college) in e. rodriguez sr. blvd. quezon city, world citi college, global city college. there are many others that i could not remember right now. but, i hope other people here will give info also on schools in the areas of bulacan, cavite, laguna and batangas for those who prefer to stay in the surrounding provinces. contact the schools/check the websites for the admission policies, tuition, affiliated hospitals, etc....and contact also ched and prc for the list of accredited schools and blacklisted schools (if any) i hope this helps. goodluck! :nuke:

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Anyone here studying at st dominic savio college? Its somewhere in Caloocan. It also offers nursing program for 2nd coursers. One school in bulacan that might be of help is University of Regina Carmeli(?) in Malolos. It also accepts 2nd coursers but will start in November I think. So I have to look for another school. My choices for now are St Dominic and MCU sincer these are the nearest ones. Do you guys know any other schools around bulacan/pampanga/caloocan area? thanks.

Anyone here studying at st dominic savio college? Its somewhere in Caloocan. It also offers nursing program for 2nd coursers. One school in bulacan that might be of help is University of Regina Carmeli(?) in Malolos. It also accepts 2nd coursers but will start in November I think. So I have to look for another school. My choices for now are St Dominic and MCU sincer these are the nearest ones. Do you guys know any other schools around bulacan/pampanga/caloocan area? thanks.

I think St. Dominic will be having their own community hospital soon wherein their students and nurses can do some of their clinicals and RLEs.

This is a good move in their part because affiliation fees to hospitals are becoming expensive because of the high demand. Nursing schools are being taking advantaged too by some hospitals because of these w/c then leads to

higher tuitions.