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Thinking of being a circulator?...(especially for new RN grads)...consider carefully. If you will only circulate, and you will be working in an OR with surgical technicians, or scrubs, who do not have a nursing background, then you may find yourself answering to, not supervising, surgical technicians, who may harbor resentments towards you being "the nurse".
In these OR settings, there is often a hierarchy: surgeon, anesthesia (often the CRNA, who is the advance practice nurse, and who knows far more about the patient's vital signs than the RN circulator), then comes the surgical technician, or scrub, and at the bottom of this hierarchy, the RN circulator.
In such OR settings, when the surgeon asks, "How is the patient doing?" The surgeon wants anesthesia (CRNA) to provide the information, not the RN circulator, who could possibly not have a clue, especially if said circulator had to leave the room for an instrument, said scrub forgot to pull prior to the surgery.
If the patient needs meds, such as for blood pressure, heart rate, etc., the CRNA is the advance practice nurse, and will be administering such drugs. Basically, they are the primary nurse in the room. As a circulator, you will be the secondary nurse. You will be charting, helping position the patient, going get stuff from outside the OR (which was forgotten, or is unexpectedly needed), checking the paperwork (consents, H&P, etc.), and setting up the OR with the scrubs.
When the surgeon, CRNA, or scrub politely asks (or yells), "I need...!" It's your job to fulfill their needs...not the other way around.
In such OR settings, don't think, "I'm the RN! I'm in charge of this operating room." No. You are not in charge of the operating room. The surgeon is the captain of that ship, or operating room. Then comes anesthesia (usually CRNA). Then the scrub, who is working with the surgeon, and anticipating, or relating the needs of the surgeon. Then comes you...the RN.
So why have a RN in the operating room? Because some states mandate their be a RN in the operating room, as a circulator, who may assist (often assisting the CRNA, when the patient crashes) during emergencies. But, laws are not written in stone. Could these state mandates change? Sure. In Australia, the nurse (RN) works in the position as a scrub, and the surgical technician works as the circulator.
So do operating rooms need registered nurses (barring state mandates)? In my humble opinion, No. Registered nurses are not needed in the operating room. Surgical technicians can easily perform the duties done by a circulator. They do it in Australia. Just a matter of time, probably, until RNs are phased out of the OR.
So, thinking of being a circulator? Consider what career growth and potential you may have. Want to be a RNFA? Your gonna have to learn suturing and instrumentation...scrub work...that's their area of expertise. They don't teach such things in nursing school. Want to be a surgical nurse practitioner? Helps to have scrub experience...otherwise you are in the same position of not knowing the basic suturing and instrumentation. See the trend? Career advancement in the operating room is rooted in knowing how to scrub if you're a RN. Even if you want to be the OR manager. Never scrubbed? Then let's see how much respect you will have among your subordinates.
Sure there are all RN ORs, in which even the scrubs are nurses. But scrubbing is the badge of honor.
Still thinking of being a circulator? Good luck.
@kiki617 As an OR nurse for 15 years, I agree with most of what you say. I work with amazing techs that know & understand things about cases that as an RN who only scrubs when needed can EVER understand. I really wish RN circulators were required to do a certain amount of scrubbing just to see the "other side" of things! Also, I do agree most techs are underpaid & are often treated like second class citizens as far as breaks & lunches go. One reason I have insisted on being trained to scrub is to be able to offer breaks....like at the close of a case, I can load a needle & cut suture, apply dressings & clean up a room while you go eat.
I think you may be in the wrong field yourself, but please don't discourage anyone else from wanting to come to the OR. A Circulator's job IS to provide sterile instruments & other necessities to the op field as needed. You are to ensure the sterility of all people involved, before, during and after surgery.. Anesthesia intakes care of the patients at HOB and it IS their job to answer to surgeon concerning how the patient is doing. Scrub techs & assists ARE supposed to ask for things from you as they are "sterile", you are not & THAT IS your role in the OR. I'm confused as to what you think your role is, but I don't believe you have the mindset, or so it seems, to be in the OR.. I've been a Circulator for 13 yrs! I love my job. I love the people (scrubs, assists and many of the doctors) I work with because we are a "team". We work ""together to get the job done. I cannot do my job without my scrubs and assists as they are very much as important as I am
I too have seen such manipulation of knowledge...and who may ultimately suffer as a result? The patient. These schisms between scrubs and nurses could be avoided if the OR could be composed entirely of nurses, or as I have suggested, surgical technicians (of course keeping the only advance nurse currently in the OR, the CRNA) instead of creating a factional workforce, which can exist in less than perfect teamwork OR settings. Teamwork, for the sake of the patient, should be the overall goal of an OR workforce, not factional issues such as those you (showmethemoney) have experienced.
You keep talking about the CRNA over and over. Not all places hire them. My OR only uses board certified anesthesiologists since the beginning of time. No CRNAs ever. Moot point.
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I have been an OR nurse for 15 years....I was once a new grad in the OR. I am sorry you feel the way you do & have had the experience you have had. Perhaps I have been one of the lucky ones who worked with good teams & have experienced toxic people only occasionally. I disagree that RN will eventually be phased out of the circulating position & the fact that you think that is a good idea makes me believe you would be better suited in another specialty. What we do as circulators is invaluable, and good ones make it look easy. Also, as far as being "in charge of the room"......well that isn't why I love what I do. Technically, by definition, I AM "in charge" of the room until the surgeon walks in. However, when you work with a good team, you all work together to do the right thing for the patient (this includes the surgeon) and no one let's their ego get in the way of that. The majority of surgeons I have worked with across my career appreciate me advocating for their patients in every way that becomes necessary. I hope you find your niche in the world of nursing, whatever that may be. Not every specialty is compatible with everyone. Good luck to you