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The wage gap myth

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litepath2 has 10 years experience and specializes in ICU/Burn ICU/MSICU/NeuroICU.

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I swear, some of you write essays. Go get a PhD. LOL

Simple. I Always broke the rule about not disclosing how much I made.

My very first job I basically announced it out loud to all my cohorts.

I can tell you some of them were pissed at what I wa$ hired at. The truth was all they really wanted.

I didn't ***, I thought they all deserved to know.

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vetpharmtech has 1 years experience.

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I am not really convinced of the wage gap. Perhaps in the corporate world that has some truth. In the animal hospital where I am working, each staff member has annual review for their performance; their pay rate depends on how many responsibilities they can handle, their nursing skills, how their colleagues view them, their client service skill, etc. Gender does not play a role in this.

Moreover, Dennis Prague is a right wing Jewish theocrat. His words should be taken with a grain of salt.

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Silver_Rik has 1 years experience as a ASN, RN and specializes in Perioperative / OR Nurse Intern.

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1 hour ago, vetpharmtech said:

I am not really convinced of the wage gap. Perhaps in the corporate world that has some truth. In the animal hospital where I am working, each staff member has annual review for their performance; their pay rate depends on how many responsibilities they can handle, their nursing skills, how their colleagues view them, their client service skill, etc. Gender does not play a role in this.

Moreover, Dennis Prague is a right wing Jewish theocrat. His words should be taken with a grain of salt.

I’m pretty sure that Dennis Prager agrees with you about the wage gap

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vetpharmtech has 1 years experience.

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5 hours ago, Silver_Rik said:

I’m pretty sure that Dennis Prager agrees with you about the wage gap

I don't think so. At least, I am willing to admit that I don't know how other professions outside mine deal with the wage gap if there is one.

This man, in contrast, thinks it is a conspiracy from the left.

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Silver_Rik has 1 years experience as a ASN, RN and specializes in Perioperative / OR Nurse Intern.

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21 minutes ago, vetpharmtech said:

I don't think so. At least, I am willing to admit that I don't know how other professions outside mine deal with the wage gap if there is one.

This man, in contrast, thinks it is a conspiracy from the left.

Prager believes that the existence of a gender wage gap is a left-wing myth.

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vetpharmtech has 1 years experience.

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17 minutes ago, Silver_Rik said:

Prager believes that the existence of a gender wage gap is a left-wing myth.

Exactly. That and other things as well.

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M1ST3R3DW1N0_RN is a BSN and specializes in CVICU.

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Wage gap; please. It's 2020. All the hospitals in my 200 mile area are union. No one is getting paid more than they are worth. It's a female dominated industry, if you think you're not getting paid enough, you are the majority to do something about it. OP is spot on.

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Silver_Rik has 1 years experience as a ASN, RN and specializes in Perioperative / OR Nurse Intern.

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On 4/21/2020 at 9:28 PM, M1ST3R3DW1N0_RN said:

Wage gap; please. It's 2020. All the hospitals in my 200 mile area are union. No one is getting paid more than they are worth. It's a female dominated industry, if you think you're not getting paid enough, you are the majority to do something about it. OP is spot on.

Other than the VA nobody is union near me.  We do have a pay scale based on experience, degree, and clinical ladder - I think the other hospitals around here do too.  Plus merit raises - but there’s a freeze on those this year due to the financial hit from Covid-19

Back to the main topic, I’m not sure if there’s a gender wage gap in nursing; but in my opinion when you are discussing the existence of a gender wage gap throughout our economy / society and you start making the argument that the gender wage gap doesn’t exist once you control for variables A, B, C, D ... that itself is problematic.  Women don’t go into STEM.... maybe there’s more to that than “girls don’t want to study math and science”.  Women take breaks in their careers to have kids.  Our system values children but still expects women to make a choice between kids and career that most men don’t have to make.  Or they don't negotiate as well...
 

My wife is in IT.  She makes 3 1/2x what I make as a nurse.  She's very  happy with what she makes; but still runs into situations where men with far less experience and expertise are making the same and guys on her level are making much more.

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Two points to make:

1: Men are less drama. I've had plenty of female nurses tell me as much. As a male charge nurse, I don't get HALF the drama even from my "problem" male staff as I do my female staff. To people who do the hiring and firing, that's worth something. I LOVE women but would prefer working with men.

2. Men are naturally more disagreeable and assertive, while women tend to be more agreeable in their proclivities. When it comes to salary negotiation and career advancement, this is where it shines. Just look at all the female responses here: They're talking about being passed over for promotions or raises while men with equal experience etc get them. Yeah, because we push for them and advocate for ourselves. Hiring and raises and advancements are not done by computers; they're done by people who can be impressed and influenced and even coerced. Men are more likely to work that to their advantage than women.

So its not a gender gap, its a personality gap. And you can change that. If you're a woman reading this, stop with the drama and cattiness and be more assertive and disagreeable.

I wrote this buzzed, so factor that into any replies.

 

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