The Story of Jahi Continues

scaredsilly, BSN, RN · Jan 19, 2015

Was he documented to be BRAIN DEAD? No, he absolutely was not. He was in a coma, or PVS. People have been known to "wake up" from those conditions. Not possible with brain death. These comparisons are not apples to apples.

Horseshoe is correct. There is not one documented case of a brain dead person waking up ever-anywhere!

ebrooks1013 · Jan 20, 2015

I was more so asking about everyones thoughts on the subject. I understand they are different I just thought it was interesting case considering what was being discussed.

Horseshoe, BSN, RN · Jan 20, 2015

I was more so asking about everyones thoughts on the subject. I understand they are different I just thought it was interesting case considering what was being discussed.

Well, it certainly is an interesting case. Perhaps you could start a thread on that?

Gooselady, BSN, RN · Jan 20, 2015

The family wants her declared alive because they want to gain millions on the lawsuit instead of the 250k cap that California has if a child dies due to medical malpractice. They are looking at this as a way to get very rich very fast. That can be their only possible motivation

Maybe.

But I hadn't thought of the aftermath of Jahi being declared 'alive' again, and what lawsuits may come from such a ruling. And you are right, it would set a precedent that I'd dread seeing come to fruition!

Gooselady, BSN, RN · Jan 20, 2015

Anybody know if there's a court-appointed guardian for Jahi? Someone neutral to watch out for this child? Even with natural parents (ie her mother) avail, guardians do get appointed. I haven't been following THAT closely to know the answer.

Imagine that, being a GAL for a dead child. Sigh.

Gooselady, BSN, RN · Jan 20, 2015

What about the man who everybody claimed was gone? He was considered gone for many years and they bathed him and kept him comfortable all the while he claimed he was alert, just trapped inside his body. The book is called ghost boy.

He was not declared brain dead, but persistent vegetative state I believe -- the literal difference between life and death. "Locked in" is apparently what happened to this now young man. "Gone" isn't a medical condition (I know you know that).

ebrooks1013 · Jan 20, 2015

Yes like I said before it was just a thought. I think stories like these are what give people hope. That their loved one could possibly come back...have some type of life. I also know his situation is different. I don't know how I, as a parent, would react to this situation but I am hoping that I would have family in my corner that would have my best interest at heart. The mother has people in her life encouraging her to continue instead of helping her deal with the death of a child. I would like to believe this isn't all for money.

Gooselady, BSN, RN · Jan 20, 2015

Guilt makes people do funny things too as does grief that hasn't been allowed to run its course.

Horseshoe, BSN, RN · Jan 20, 2015

I'm not convinced it's ONLY about money for Mom. Maybe I'm wrong, but I have daughters who are my life, and I just can't be that cynical I guess.

Gooselady, BSN, RN · Jan 21, 2015

I don't think we could possibly know this family's TRUE motivation and are only displaying judgmental ignorance when we insist we do. It's too complicated. I'm not saying $$$$ isn't in the mix, it certainly is, who is going to pay the hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep Jahi going? Even if money was in their Family Feud Top Five, they ain't gonna be rolling in dough after the bills are paid! You can buy name brand hand bags on the grey market. I can't afford many things I'd love to have and if I saw an opportunity to spend what I could on something only sooooper rich people can buy I will do it. If my daughter happens to be legally dead, and I've made a public orifice out of myself, does having an Instagram photo of an expensive handbag AUTOMATICALLY MEAN I'm just in it for the cash?

That's the problem I had with some of the comments in the first place, but then again folks here have a right to their opinion on the matter. If you put your opinion out there, other members will be inclined to chip in with THEIR opinions, and it's not a matter of Who's Right, it's just a big pot of opinions and none of us are 'right' :)

scaredsilly, BSN, RN · Jan 21, 2015

The uncle made a comment way back when this started stating that $250K was peanuts and he was planning to file a suit for the big money. The mother spent funds that were meant for Jahi's care on Michael Kors bags.

And every time the GoFundMe site stops hauling in cash, they break their silence with another new update.

It IS all about money! I know that's hard to hear that a parent would do that, but there has been loads of evidence that proves it.

forgivenfaith119 · Jan 21, 2015

This situation is so sad. I believe the mother is in deep denial and probably believes in what she is saying to others. When will this end?

My mother ended up on life support in NICU 12 years ago. My family was told she was brain dead and there was no hope for recovery. We did not know her wishes. Even though it was incredibly painful, we made the choice to pull her off life support because we knew she wouldn't have a good quality of life. I know this isn't the same as a child but we wanted what was best for her and we were OK in the end with the choice we made.