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The return of Hillarycare
This seems like an odd time for politicians to tout government-controlled health care. Less than a decade ago, the Clinton administration was shaken by the negative reaction to its "Hillarycare" proposal for a government medical monopoly. Just weeks ago, Oregon voters overwhelmingly rejected such a scheme at the state level. Advocacy of an idea that has repeatedly earned thumbs-down from Americans looks like an exercise in futility.
But health care costs are growing across the country, as are the ranks of the uninsured, eliciting screams from patients, doctors and employers who foot the bill for much medical coverage. That brings loud calls for a some sort of fix.
So people with a taste for government-monopoly medicine still see an opportunity to advance their cause. Now a state board in Maine is considering a tax-funded health system; the head of California Blue Shield has called for state-provided care; and Rhode Island legislators are studying similar ideas.
But government-dominated medicine doesn't just have low popularity ratings with the American public -- it has a bad track record in terms of performance, too.
In August 2002, the Fraser Institute, a research organization based in Vancouver, British Columbia, released a devastating comparison of the country's state health care system to plans in several primarily European countries. The Fraser researchers found poor availability of doctors and modern technology, long waits, unnecessary deaths and high costs.
The report concluded, "The models that produce superior results and cost less than Canada's monopoly-insurer, monopoly-provider system have: user fees; alternative, comprehensive, private insurance; and private hospitals that compete for patient demand."
In January 2002, the British Medical Journal published a comparison of Britain's National Health Service and California's private Kaiser Permanente HMO which found, "Our overall conclusion is that healthcare costs per capita in Kaiser and the NHS are similar to within 10% and that Kaiser's performance is considerably better in certain respects..."
Tennessee's unfortunate experience with government medicine confirms the findings in other countries. Once touted as a bold experiment in universal coverage, TennCare has foundered ever since. The program ran up high costs, fueling calls for a state income tax -- which sparked a grassroots tax revolt.
Tennessee was forced to tighten eligibility requirements and slash coverage.
But the fact that government-dominated medicine suffers from inefficiency and mismanagement doesn't minimize the problems with health care in the U.S. at a time when roughly 40 million Americans are uninsured.
However, while many Americans do go without health insurance, that's not necessarily because it's unaffordable. While the common perception is that individual coverage is expensive, eHealthInsurance, which offers online insurance price quotes, reported in 2001 that the average individual policy costs between $100 and $125 per month -- a tab well within the means of many Americans.
Stuart M. Butler of the Heritage Foundation proposes individual tax credits to further improve the affordability of health care coverage to low-income people.
Medical Savings Accounts (MSAs) already let some people put money aside money for health costs the way they do for retirement, with the funds shielded from taxes. Such funds are especially helpful for workers who lose their jobs. Tom Miller, a researcher with the Cato Institute, recommends that Congress expand the pilot MSA program so that it's available to all Americans.
Neither MSAs nor tax credits would address the issue of people who choose to do without coverage, but they would make it increasingly clear that for some people, lack of coverage really is a choice.
But that doesn't solve the problem of high costs. Health care insurance premiums are expected to rise by 15%-20% in 2003 -- well above the rate of inflation.
Some costs -- in particular, those of developing new medicines and medical devices -- are partially attributable to regulations and bureaucratic delays that can and should be eliminated.
Then there's America's favorite pastime: litigation. Outrageous jury awards are reflected in high malpractice insurance premiums which have spurred orthopedic surgeons to walk off the job in Nevada, and limit the availability of care elsewhere.
Litigation has hidden costs, too. A Harris Interactive poll recently found that a whopping 79% of surveyed physicians order unnecessary tests, while 41% prescribe unnecessary antibiotics, in an effort to discourage lawsuits.
Tort reform, such as California's award caps, short windows for lawsuits and inducements for quick settlement, could reduce financial pressure on doctors and patients.
People seeking radical reform might look to the SimpleCare system promoted by the non-profit American Association of Patients and Providers. Under SimpleCare, doctors lower their administration, billing and paperwork costs by dropping all insurance plans. Instead, they bill their patients in full at the time of care, at a reduced rate that reflects their lower overhead.
To be honest, no matter what is done to improve the affordability of American health, some people will fall through the cracks. That's inevitable whether in a market system or under a scheme of tax-supported medicine.
But at their worst, private health care providers must compete for the loyalty of doctors and patients. A government monopoly can force people to pay taxes to support the system -- whether they like it or not.
The health care systems of other countires have been taking a pounding lately pointing out the problems but I want you to answer me a question.
First some background: The powers that be in the Infection Control and epidemiology world are worried about the next pandemic - WHICH WILL COME. Here we are watching the Asian Bird flu like - well hawks waiting for a sign that it will mutate to direct human to human transmission. Sars has arisen again and by latest tests is endemic within that region of China we are not safe from it yet. We missed SARS becoming a pandemic by the skin of our teeth.
I know how well we will cope with the next pandemic - we will cope well financially as a nation because we already have the infrastructure in place.
How well will America cope??? How in the case of thousands and millions of infected people are you then going to cope??? You cannot ignore them - they will infect the healthy - where will you put them - in the hospitals? Who then will pay for the uninsured?
This does worry me because I know from my reading that we are a sneeze away from a pandemic whether unintentional or intentional (bioterrorism). America by the very fact that it's populace is so mobile and because of the fact that there has been a recent dismantling of laboratories able to investigate and deal with this issue then becomes a world problem.
BTW, the law is clear in the matter of Lacy Peterson. A person can be charged with the murder, UNLESS it is a doctor performing an abortion. There is a reason they specifically exclude abortion in the law.
So, for the record:
If I have money and I go pay a doctor to kill the fetus inside of my uterus: The doctor is protected by law. He gets MONEY to rid my body of the fetus. However, if that SAME doctor shoots ME killing the baby in my uterus then it is murder.
I see, the law is perfectly clear. Interesting concept....
Gwenith, there are health professionals in the US very concerned about what you posted. You only have to look at the flare up in drug resistand TB in some areas a few years ago to see how not treating everyone impacts all citizens.
Fergus, Fergus, Fergus....
I am not saying the US is perfect. We have our problems. Canada has problems. Australia has problems. The NHS has problems. For the most part, the complaints sound similar and then other complaints are different. The problem is that there are problems in YOUR systems too. Yet, nobody can tell me exactly why their problems are any less significant than ours. Because, in fact, they are not less significant. Canadians do not want to pay more taxes, right Fergus? Yet, the only way to decrease waiting lists is to put more tax dollars into the system. This concept seems easy to understnad to me.
Interestingly as well, when I post a conservative, supported post you call it insignificant. However, all of your posts and others posts and all of the pro-universal healthcare "opinions" are supposed to be fully trusted and believed.
Why should we rid ourselves of our problems do adopt universal care problems?
Kitkat
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Fergus, TB programs at MDH are free. We treat free and we perform DOT, which is the WHO and CDC standard for drug resistant, multiple-drug resistant TB. So, I do not think you know enough about MDH's TB treatment programs. Drugs free, treatment free.... for TB. Hey, I can rhyme too! Yowsa !
The health care systems of other countires have been taking a pounding lately pointing out the problems but I want you to answer me a question.First some background: The powers that be in the Infection Control and epidemiology world are worried about the next pandemic - WHICH WILL COME. Here we are watching the Asian Bird flu like - well hawks waiting for a sign that it will mutate to direct human to human transmission. Sars has arisen again and by latest tests is endemic within that region of China we are not safe from it yet. We missed SARS becoming a pandemic by the skin of our teeth.
I know how well we will cope with the next pandemic - we will cope well financially as a nation because we already have the infrastructure in place.
How well will America cope??? How in the case of thousands and millions of infected people are you then going to cope??? You cannot ignore them - they will infect the healthy - where will you put them - in the hospitals? Who then will pay for the uninsured?
This does worry me because I know from my reading that we are a sneeze away from a pandemic whether unintentional or intentional (bioterrorism). America by the very fact that it's populace is so mobile and because of the fact that there has been a recent dismantling of laboratories able to investigate and deal with this issue then becomes a world problem.
America will have a difficult time coping, just as will NHS, Canada (SARS), and Australia. We would all have a very difficult time coping with pandemic flus. MDH holds pandemic influenza tabletops to practice, as we all expect another pandemic influenza (that come along every 30 or so years, last one being 1918). I do not think any healthcare system can fully prepare for that or bioterrorism. We also have the PUSH package from CDC and they are putting plans in place now at MDH to attempt to deal with public health threats.
So, for the record:If I have money and I go pay a doctor to kill the fetus inside of my uterus: The doctor is protected by law. He gets MONEY to rid my body of the fetus. However, if that SAME doctor shoots ME killing the baby in my uterus then it is murder.
I see, the law is perfectly clear. Interesting concept....
Yes. It is interesting.
Did I say anything about MDH's treatment plans? No. For the record, I have said the Canadian system has problems and the American one does (though Toronto hospitals coped with SARS, which was not a fun time to be living here let me tell you!). This is an example of an American problem because unfortunately not all drugs are free there. The increase in TB treatment and surveillance was probably largely due to the spike in MDR TB that occured in the early 90s.
Conversely, I never saw an abortion clinic stalking a pregnant mother, or a person who was shot WITHOUT a gun.
I had to think about your first point for a long time and it still doesn't make any sense. A pregnant woman seeking an abortion walks in to a clinic of her own free will . . .so the clinic doesn't need to go stalking pregnant women.
As to the second point, the gun won't go off unless a person is involved.
Neither a clinic nor a gun have free will. They are inanimate objects and therefore your analogy, while funny, doesn't work.
It is the human being with the free will.
My brain is tired. :chuckle
steph
I had to think about your first point for a long time and it still doesn't make any sense. A pregnant woman seeking an abortion walks in to a clinic of her own free will . . .so the clinic doesn't need to go stalking pregnant women.As to the second point, the gun won't go off unless a person is involved.
Neither a clinic nor a gun have free will. They are inanimate objects and therefore your analogy, while funny, doesn't work.
It is the human being with the free will.
My brain is tired. :chuckle
steph
Then are abortion clinics morally neutral places?
Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN
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Have a sig line like that and you'll get an arguement.