58flyer 290 Posts May 6, 2009 Batman, some of the experiences I mentioned in my post occurred at an early age. By early, I mean adolescence or early adulthood, before one develops the social and communication skills that maturity and life experience brings. If I could go back in a time machine now and put myself in the difficult situations I encountered, they most certainly would have never happened. But it's the young people who most often encounter this kind of crap. They are easily pressured into submitting to something that will haunt them for the rest of their lives. It was at age 16, when I went in for surgery for my broken finger, that I had the horrific experience I mentioned in another thread. That might not have happened to someone much older. I can remember my mother telling me in earshot of the nurse, "these people are here to help you so do exactly what they say." I had every intention of being the good compliant patient. Oh, how I regret that. :angryfireI have to disagree with you Batman, about being "polite but firm." How can I be polite to anyone who disrespects me? To me, standard of care is the polite request to respect a patient's modesty. If I have to speak up and remind someone to do something so basic as provide privacy, then it's really the second request and I have the right to get forceful. Experience has taught me that asking nicely will not get the desired result. Only when I have snapped at them, with liberal use of the "f" word or "b" word, and demeaning them in the process, did I ever get the result I expected. A cleaned up example; "Shut the door moron, were you born in a freaking barn or what?" Yea, once I had a doc tell me I was not nice, only once. Before I retired from my last law enforcement career, I spent several years doing off duty employment as security in a hospital. I noticed that when medical people spoke to each other, it was direct, succinct, to the point with no sugarcoating. When communication was corrective in nature, it was often demeaning. I have found that approach works well when dealing with medical staff.