Noting patterns in behavior is one way in which we can predict future behaviors. To be able to predict future behaviors allows us to plan our reaction thereby giving us a sense of security.
I've noticed some behavioral patterns here on this website, and one of the most recent ones is congregation. Where once the most heavily trafficked forum was General Nursing, one of the most heavily trafficked areas is now Politics.
I get this data through empirical endeavors. For example, a recent thread in General Nursing where I had submitted a post sat at the most recent post position for 5 1/2 hours. Politics rarely sit without a new post being submitted for more than an hour. As example, this morning, Politics had been posted on less than 30 minutes earlier.
Why the shift in interest from Nursing to Politics on a nursing website?
Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
Many newscasters today openly display their distaste over, for example, a Politian's actions or say things like, "I think", or "I believe", when I don't give a flying fruit basket about their opinion.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
49 minutes ago, Davey Do said:
Many newscasters today openly display their distaste over, for example, a Politian's actions or say things like, "I think", or "I believe", when I don't give a flying fruit basket about their opinion.
Too many Americans are unable to discern the difference between reporting the news and sharing rhetoric, commentary or opinion. I believe that on Sunday mornings Chuck Todd represents the worst in that respect.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
2 hours ago, Davey Do said:
Merely stating what one has an opinion on is subjectively biased, when presenting objective facts as a premise carries more weight.
Maybe it carries more weight. Doesn't the data reflect that some people put more value on opinion and some people place more value in facts and evidence in their individual thinking and decision making?
Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
17 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:
Doesn't the data reflect that some people put more value on opinion and some people place more value in facts and evidence in their individual thinking and decision making?
With all due respect and love, TMB, asking a question when the answer is already known is an attention-seeking passive-aggressive maneuver used to drive home a point.
The maneuver is similarly insidious to those who use phrases like "I believe" or "I think", or "In my opinion", or the worst, "I feel". The individual is inferring since THEY believe or think a certain way, others should too.
Some newscasters are better Dime Store actors than they are at giving the news. I won't even watch the news on TV, but Belinda does. The newscasters I've seen are flamboyant, loud, have pucker or nasopharynx voices, interrupt others, and express their emotions facially or by flailing their arms & hands.
All of these maneuvers are people's methods of saying, "What I think is important because I'm important".
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
13 minutes ago, Davey Do said:
With all due respect and love, TMB, asking a question when the answer is already known is an attention-seeking passive-aggressive maneuver used to drive home a point.
The maneuver is similarly insidious to those who use phrases like "I believe" or "I think", or "In my opinion", or the worst, "I feel". The individual is inferring since THEY believe or think a certain way, others should too.
Some newscasters are better Dime Store actors than they are at giving the news. I won't even watch the news on TV, but Belinda does. The newscasters I've seen are flamboyant, loud, have pucker or nasopharynx voices, interrupt others, and express their emotions facially or by flailing their arms & hands.
All of these maneuvers are people's methods of saying, "What I think is important because I'm important".
With all due respect, I asked the questions because your remark suggested something not supported by the evidence.
MAYBE people put more weight in data and facts over opinion and rhetoric. Millions of American adults clearly do not.
I watch the CBS and NBC evening news programming. They don't wave their arms, they are rarely loud and they don't often do interviews during the programming... they sometimes show portions of prerecorded interviews.
Maybe you are talking about cable television programming.
I think the news is pretty good at reporting the facts of what is going on.
What we have seen is the onset of group-talk on cable news offering opinions and not reporting. "Fox and Friends" for example. "Morning Joe" for example. They talk about the news of the day and give their opinions about it. This is where it gets a bit skewed. Both of the shows I mentioned above have a definite slant. "The Five" on Fox News in the evenings is extremely anti-Biden whereas "Morning Joe" seems to be anti-Trump.
Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
1 hour ago, toomuchbaloney said:
With all due respect, I asked the questions because your remark suggested something not supported by the evidence.
This where debates and discussions become off the topic and confusing.
If a remark is not supported by evidence, then state it instead of asking a rhetorical question which is designed to stand on its own accord!
The polite rules of discussion and debate ate often lost in this community. We need to first restate the premise- or quote it- and then give evidence to the contrary. Too often, the topic is lost due to members not following the rules, such as attacking the person and not the premise.
Now, on a side note directed at you, TMB: The respect I have for you is real and one piece of evidence is the act of discussing these matters with you. There are those members who have become non-persons to me because they have proven through their posts that they do not know how to politely discuss or debate. They have used such methods as personally attacking me, red herrings, and the like.
You and I have a history going back years, TMB, and I have favorable feelings toward you. For example, you helped me deal with my part Huskey dog and have shared resources with me, for which I am grateful.
So, there's no way that I want to put you down in order to elevate my own low self-esteem but will challenge the premise or methods of your tactics.
Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
1 hour ago, Davey Do said:
This where debates and discussions become off the topic and confusing.
If a remark is not supported by evidence, then state it instead of asking a rhetorical question which is designed to stand on its own accord!
The polite rules of discussion and debate ate often lost in this community. We need to first restate the premise- or quote it- and then give evidence to the contrary. Too often, the topic is lost due to members not following the rules, such as attacking the person and not the premise.
Now, on a side note directed at you, TMB: The respect I have for you is real and one piece of evidence is the act of discussing these matters with you. There are those members who have become non-persons to me because they have proven through their posts that they do not know how to politely discuss or debate. They have used such methods as personally attacking me, red herrings, and the like.
You and I have a history going back years, TMB, and I have favorable feelings toward you. For example, you helped me deal with my part Huskey dog and have shared resources with me, for which I am grateful.
So, there's no way that I want to put you down in order to elevate my own low self-esteem but will challenge the premise or methods of your tactics.
That's what we do here... discuss and challenge.
I will admit that I ask rhetorical and sometimes obvious questions. This is a throwback to my history in education... people tend to remember things that they think through themselves better than information that is simply presented to them. My intention is not to inform members with those questions but to cause them to think about the foundation of their statement(s).
The evidence that people don't utilize facts or evidence to formulate opinions and beliefs, especially about political issues is abundant. We only have to consider the emotional adoration of Trump for evidence.
The maneuver is similarly insidious to those who use phrases like "I believe" or "I think", or "In my opinion", or the worst, "I feel". The individual is inferring since THEY believe or think a certain way, others should too.
I can’t speak for other posters, but I tend to use ”I believe”, ”in my opinion” or ”I feel” when I want to make it clear that it’s simply my beliefs or opinion I’m sharing. I will sometimes include a link to a source that supports my belief, but most of the time I won’t. I’m just sharing my opinion. If on the other hand I want to share something factual, I will state that this is a fact and I will provide a source. No source = my opinion.
Tone can be very hard to discern on the internet, so I try to avoid categorically ascribing a certain way of expressing things a definite meaning.
2 hours ago, Davey Do said:
With all due respect and love, TMB, asking a question when the answer is already known is an attention-seeking passive-aggressive maneuver used to drive home a point.
Personally, I interpret the phrase ”with all due respect and love”, immediately followed by criticism as supremely passive-aggressive and hectoring. However I realize that might not be your intention, so if this was something that concerned me, I’d ask you to clarify your intention.
23 hours ago, toomuchbaloney said:
I believe that on Sunday mornings Chuck Todd represents the worst in that respect.
When TMB said this, I didn’t interpret it as meaning that because TMB believes this, other posters should as well. I just took it as TMB’s opinion. It’s what TMB believes. Not what we should all believe. I don’t even know who this Chuck Todd person is, so I can’t possibly agree or disagree with TMB on this issue.
1 hour ago, Davey Do said:
The polite rules of discussion and debate ate often lost in this community. We need to first restate the premise- or quote it- and then give evidence to the contrary.
Well, until this becomes part of ToS, posters will present their arguments and opinions in a myriad of different ways. Some that you’ll approve of, some that you most likely won’t. It’s the internet.
Specializes in Psych (25 years), Medical (15 years).
49 minutes ago, toomuchbaloney said:
This is a throwback to my history in education... people tend to remember things that they think through themselves better than information that is simply presented to them.
Touché, TMB!
Thank you for that explanation, it sheds a new light on things for me. The best instructors I had were the ones who drew out the information and guided us to the answers.
And also thank you for that illuminating revelation which allowed me to have a change of consciousness.
Davey Do
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Many newscasters today openly display their distaste over, for example, a Politian's actions or say things like, "I think", or "I believe", when I don't give a flying fruit basket about their opinion.