Tech that tells everyone she's a nurse

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We have a nurse tech who is from Germany. She's forever telling everyone...other staff & patients...that she was a nurse in Germany but the United States won't let her practice nursing here without going back to school and earning a degree here. She is currently in her first semester of an ADN program.

From a lot of the things she says and does, we don't think she really went to the kind of nursing school we have to go to here. She says she spent 4 years in nursing school, being taught by the nuns. I asked her just yesterday if she had to take classes like Anatomy/Physiology. She avoided giving the actual answer, but just said, "maybe our school was a little different than here". So, that told me NO. The other day, she came to me and said, "that patient said they couldn't breathe good, so I turned their oxygen up to 6". I told her to NEVER do that again and explained why. I could go on & on. I (and others) are really getting sick of hearing her talk about being a nurse and how good she is at being a tech. She does get her vitals & baths done quickly and is good about many things AS A TECH. But she also refuses to do anything else with patients that aren't assigned to her. She will sit & read magazines if no one is available to listen to her tell how good she is. I've told her before that they aren't just "your patients/my patients"...that they all have needs and if someone else is tied up with another patient and someone else isn't busy, then that person needs to attend to the needs of the other patients. She also loves to say, "I'm just here to help the nurse with the patient's I'm assigned to. If other techs can't do their work, then that nurse needs to do it, not me."

Anyway, back to my original reason for writing this post...does anyone know if the requirements to become a nurse in Germany is different than in the US?

Specializes in Cardiac Care.

This tech gave insulin???

Specializes in Critical Care, Capacity/Bed Management.
spanish is my second language, but it's very rude to speak it around other people who don't know it, especially in a professional setting. i don't blame you one bit for firing her for speaking spanish.

i have a problem with that i work in a very cuturally diverse facility and i find it more and more annoying that i get penalized for speaking spanish but the philipino rn's can speak tagalog (sp?) and haitian rn's can speak creole yet i cannot speak spanish, but when they need a translator i am the first person they call.

Specializes in Home Care, Hospice, OB.
i have a problem with that i work in a very cuturally diverse facility and i find it more and more annoying that i get penalized for speaking spanish but the philipino rn's can speak tagalog (sp?) and haitian rn's can speak creole yet i cannot speak spanish, but when they need a translator i am the first person they call.

sorry about the double (or triple) standard in your facility, but in mine, staff spoke english in front of our 100% english speaking residents, or they were unemployed. i have no concern about what language anyone speaks on their own time, but i a huge problem with anything but english at work. when i lived in germany, i learned german; ditto for thailand. don't mean to hijack the thread, but this is a sore point with me.:angryfire

Specializes in CNA.
i know its a sticky problem, but i fired a nurse who would not stop chatting in spanish with the cna's in front of residents (after the appropriate paper trail). he never did understand why it was upseting to the residents (and the rest of the staff, of course!)

i quit my job as a cna once because of this. i was the only native english speaker in the bunch. the other cnas would give report in their native tounge. i had no idea what they were saying. they had all been working there for 2-3 years, versus my first month. so obviously if i complained they'd know who it was and i'd be singled out.

not fun.

Specializes in currently an RN student.

I can't believe what I am seeing. This CNA is CRAZY!!! First of all, she is misrepresenting herself to other staff and patients. Second, she is not staying in her scope of practice. I am a CNA who is hopefully getting into the RN program this fall, and would never behave that way. If the state comes in they will cite that facility and hold the supervising RN responsible. That girl needs to go because she is not only a danger to the patients, she is a liability to licensed personnel and the facility.

Specializes in currently an RN student.

I totally agree! I even get Spanish-speaking patients that I triage at my work that say to me, " U need to learn Spanish." It takes everything I have in me to refrain myself because I feel like saying," I am in the United States, English is our language here!"

Specializes in Critical Care, Capacity/Bed Management.

I have to disagree, spanish is a very important language in the united states and it is important to atleast know some phrases.

And the we're in the USA speak english mentally is getting pretty tired.

Did you know we are the only country who believes everyone should know english so when we go to france we expect them to know english.

Specializes in Home Care, Hospice, OB.
i have to disagree, spanish is a very important language in the united states and it is important to atleast know some phrases.

and the we're in the usa speak english mentally is getting pretty tired.

did you know we are the only country who believes everyone should know english so when we go to france we expect them to know english.

i think you need to be a little more cultured

feel free to think as you'd like, but i stand by my assertion. english is the lingua franca of this country. my ancestors spoke gaelic, german, french, and hebrew--and all learned english before their deaths.

btw, have lived in nine countries, speak three languages..and never expected my host countries to make allowances for my linguistical deficiencies.

:typing

Back to the orignal subject...

I've worked with RNs who came from the UK and Eire and had never listened to chest sounds or given morphine, "the Doctors did that".

If you read through the international threads you'll see that many of the skills/duties we perform on a daily basis are not done by nurses around the world. Catheterization seems to be problem in the UK and Oz, with differences being drawn between males and females.

Scopes of practice and methods of training differ from country to country, even between Canada and the States.

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Nowadays in UK nurses catheterise both males and females.When I trained(just after Florence) only doctors or male nurses catheterised males.

Specializes in LTC, ER.
Originally posted by gentlegiver:

That's called insubordnation (spelling??) and I have written up many CNA's for thinking they could work under my licence and ignore my orders :nono:

:yeah:Thank You! I thought I was the only one getting fed up with that. Good for you for writing them up. The tech that the op is talking about- I would write her insubordinate self up everyday.

Specializes in currently an RN student.
I have to disagree, spanish is a very important language in the united states and it is important to atleast know some phrases.

And the we're in the USA speak english mentally is getting pretty tired.

Did you know we are the only country who believes everyone should know english so when we go to france we expect them to know english.

In response to your reply, if I were to go to France I would not expect them to speak English as I would be visiting their country. I think it is unacceptable to think everyone should cater to one culture in this country just because one thinks their language is "important". All languages and cultures are important. However, facts are facts. This is the United States of America and we speak English here. I don't mind speaking small phrases in Spanish, but I don't feel that I should have to speak another country's language just because people who chose to come here don't want to learn mine.

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