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Hi to all,

I'm inquiring for the Psychiatric Nursing Program on Stenberg College. I'm going to attend the information session in the upcoming week. I have a couple of questions since it's a private college do they keep a waiting list and is it hard to get in?

Hi intelcorei... I'm new to the forum here but I've reading through lots of old posts, this one was spot on for you:

https://allnurses.com/canada-nursing-programs/stenberg-591121.html

For anyone considering going to a private college for nursing studies I would suggest that you thoroughly do your research before you commit to anything. Don't let the excitement and the rush to start a program blind you into only seeing the good about private colleges. I was lucky enough to do some good research and I am very glad that I did. All of the comments said the same thing about all of the private college - too expensive, lack of teaching, and difficulty finding employment in the field of study afterwards. Public colleges are worth the wait, are less expensive, and generally well known by all employers. Please, please, please do your research well before going to any private colleges.

But what happened to taking nursing at Kwantlen?? If there was a waiting list or you didn't meet the admission requirements, you'd probably be better off upgrading and trying again, imo.

When I lived in the lower mainland a few years ago, I was considering Stenberg, and other private schools, for nursing. But after doing some volunteer work and talking to employers, it sounded like a public college was the way to go. I've been upgrading my courses, moved back to the north, and looking forward to starting my BScN.

But whatever path you choose, best of luck to you :)

Thanks for the reply. I'm a very recent HS graduate with no experience at all I applied for Kwantlen and I didn't get accepted :( So my parents and I decided to apply for Stenberg. My grades are pretty good but I'm not sure if that's enough for Stenberg, I really don't know how private colleges work if they keep a waiting list or so... The program is also online based btw.....

So my parents and I decided to apply for Stenberg.

So is this what YOU want? Why nursing? Why specifically psychiatric nursing? I must have changed my mind every month when I was your age about what I wanted to study lol

When I looked, and mind you this was years ago, the private colleges would take you as long as you had the money. Especially seeing as this is an online program, I can't see there being a waiting list, perhaps only for the practicums. When you go to the information session I'm sure they can answer your questions about grades and waitlist.

But don't limit yourself to the one school. Go to multiple information sessions, research all the schools even if they have waitlists. Do some volunteer work, many LTC facilities welcome volunteers. You'll get access to new and long-time nurses, and you can pick their brains about their schooling and work.

Well, I want Psychiatric Nursing since my mom inspired me to do it (I find it fascinating) and I have better job prospects with that kind of career. I also like the idea of it being online based since I don't have to worry about transportation heh. So private colleges isn't too strict in terms of their admission?

Fiona59

Has 18 years experience.

Private Colleges will take you if you have a pulse and can pay the fees.

You do have to worry about transportation because you will have to go and do placements in different psychiatric facilities. There is huge competion among colleges and universities for placement times on units. The priority is given to public colleges, so you need to be prepared to travel to wherever they can find space.

How often is practicum or clinical in the program? It's only 2 years btw since it's just Diploma.

Fiona59

Has 18 years experience.

How often is practicum or clinical in the program? It's only 2 years btw since it's just Diploma.

You'll have to go to an information session. You will have at least three group placements and then your final practicuum where you demonstrate your abilities and work full time.

There's a push towards a degree for RPNs, so you may also want to see when the degree is becoming mandatory for entry to practice.

The hours are the usual hospital shift hours and on the final placement you must work your preceptors hours be they days, nights, evening, 8 or 12 hour shifts. You basically work their rotation.

Hi IntelCorei72600k,

I am currently in the Psychiatric Nursing Program at Stenberg College and did not have to wait to get in. My suggestion is to keep asking lots of questions about the college. Good luck with your future endeavors!

Hi IntelCorei72600k,

The practicum start in the second term in combination with your studies. It is expected that the students obtain 180 hours each practicum.

Hi IntelCorei72600k,

I am currently in the Psychiatric Nursing Program at Stenberg College and did not have to wait to get in. My suggestion is to keep asking lots of questions about the college. Good luck with your future endeavors!

Hi there! How was like studying at Stenberg College? Is it worth the money? Our family income will not qualify for a full student loan so we will be shedding our own savings for the tuition fee. I just want to know first hand from actual students how was like being a student or graduate of this institution.

If everything's turns out well with enrolment and stuff, l'm gonna start my RPN studies on Nov 2014 intake.

PS. I perfectly understand the advantage of going to a public school BUT l'm buying time here. And I'm on my early 30s now, I don't have that much privilege to wait.

stenberg is a disgusting school to attend, i would avoid this place like the plague. i am a stenberg alumni from one of their programs and the school is poorly run, like most students, i got excited at the thought of starting school asap but was one of the worst things that i could have done. the academic advisors really upsell you the program..why? they receive a "small commission fee" if you enroll and graduate from the program...a 1 percent fee...so if a program (psych nurs) costs 43000 after all fee's, they will take home 430 dollars...and imagine how many students they enroll per week?

the instructor was not very educated to say the least and lost many debates regarding ethics in healthcare and could not describe basic knowledge of core fundamentals in mental illness. the class was pathetic, mostly older people looking for career changes, staff sucked, there were no support services, the entire class had to be retaught personal care because the person teaching us was horrible and the entire class rose above and complained. they are very subjective with their grading and assign points to whoever they like, there were some class favorites. they also get involved in your personal life..which is sad. one instructor/life coach got fired because he had a sexual relationship with one of the students and was giving out his personal phone number, his name is sean parcker..there is an instructor whose name is steve paras who had his BCTF license revoked for not reporting abuse in which he was a principle of the school.

i highly recommend avoiding this school. the anatomy and physiology they teach (which is self taught btw), is nowhere near adequate or even comparable to what they teach at douglas college...i know because its the same bio course that i took in my program, i took anatomy and phsyi levels 1 and 2 at douglas and now start the psych nur program in jan 2015...avoid this school.

youve been warned

haha wow! the post above is quite hard.

I have been reading around and inquiring about psych nursing in volunteer settings and professionals that work in the field.

Many do say it's better to go to douglas or kwantlen, but what about for those of us that don't want to wait that long to get into Douglas College.

I mean isn't it quite hard to get into the douglas college program?

I was born in BC and finished a crim associates, and I find it quite hard to get into douglas. I think I would be at 8-10 points.

But that is only because of my prior education, I can't imagine how hard it must be for someone who has not gone to a public secondary school let alone not from Canada.

I would think Stenberg is a good option. I mean why would stenberg keep running, if it's such a bad school??? I mean one pays a lot of money to get into the stenberg program.

It's only reasonable to think that one will get hired after graduating and will succeed and if that is the case then the place should be banned.

Fiona59

Has 18 years experience.

Stenburg in various forms has been around for years. It used to be vocational.

It's hard to get into any publicly funded nursing programme. Places like Stenburg and Sprott-Shaw exist for people who think they shouldn't have to wait to get an education. Years ago, the only way to become a psych nurse was to train at the old Riverview facility and it's affiliated sites. They didn't care if you didn't want to wait. You met their requirements.

Read through the board some more. These two schools have dismal reputations. They will promise you the earth to get your cash. They don't guarantee you will pass or become licensed.

Stenburg in various forms has been around for years. It used to be vocational.

It's hard to get into any publicly funded nursing programme. Places like Stenburg and Sprott-Shaw exist for people who think they shouldn't have to wait to get an education. Years ago, the only way to become a psych nurse was to train at the old Riverview facility and it's affiliated sites. They didn't care if you didn't want to wait. You met their requirements.

Read through the board some more. These two schools have dismal reputations. They will promise you the earth to get your cash. They don't guarantee you will pass or become licensed.

On the stenberg website it shows two students that are in or were in the program that have done quite well.

I personally met a RPN that got licensed and she came from Stenberg. She did mention that Douglas and Kwantlen are better schools. =S

She said something about the adminstration is bad in Stenberg and the other RPN in the volunteer setting told me that he would hire someone from Douglas over Stenberg because of the quality of education from Douglas.

I just find it really hard to believe that stenberg is that bad. Especially when one pays more at that school then Douglas College.

I guess for me I don't really want to wait if I were to get into psych nursing at douglas college, because the home situation is quite nuts! and moving out without a backup in this economy in BC does not seem like a smart idea.

Stenberg for me and others that want to get that education quicker seems at least on paper like a more attractive option.

not going to lie I have heard and read bad stuff from stenberg. =(

Fiona59

Has 18 years experience.

What you want to find out is: what is their graduation rate in proportion to how many start the course, how many grads pass the registration exam first try, how many grads are employed.

My nursing class (at a public school) started with 72, 40 graduated and all passed on first writing. Within five years, 5 nurses that I know of had left the profession.

These are all things you need to consider.

lol...the website will obviously self promote their students, so it would be surprising for them NOT to put some type of positive advertisements about their programs on their website. The graduation to jobs ratio was 98 percent..then it slowly started to drop..and drop. There is a career services and alumni coordinator there who keeps track of students graduating compare to jobs that are obtained (they call you within 6 months..half the students in my class never received this "call"), while she was helping us with our resumes, she was telling students that she can omit students and rates from the stats depending on "circumstances" so you never actually know what is factual and what is not. Stenberg does not seem better on paper...i work with RPNs from fraser health and vch, they all avoid stenberg because the educational component is self taught and nowhere near what you would receive from douglas..in comparison..douglas offers a bachelors of science degree in pnursing because there is research intensive courses that prepare you to work in research positions in the field of p nursing..kwantlen only offers a b. of p nursing because it is more pragmatic and practical, stenberg only transfers to kwantlen because of this..and the fact that the dean for stenbergs p nursing program WORKS at kwantlen (corruption if you ask me). stenberg is NOT A COLLEGE. it is an institution regulated by PCTIA (private career training institution) which means it is a FOR PROFIT training institution that mainly prepares people for career specific paths..pctia is not a government body, so they have no say in what quality of education is being delivered...only the provincial government has that authority to assign a college or institution with EQA (to date, there is only one private institution or "college" in BC with EQA status and that is the adler school of professional psychology). whatever you do, just be cautious, 2 years may sound like a short amount of time, but the entire course is self taught, and the instructors are garbage...google jon cutcliffe...he was a stenberg employee for the RPN program and quit his job/has a lawsuit against stenberg for them trying to force him to perform and teach stuff that is outside of an RPN's scope of practice:

Texas man sues Canadian college for breach of contract - Southeast Texas RecordSoutheast Texas Record

quality of education is ****..ive been there, so has everyone i know, and they all regretted it. do what you want but as i said before, youve been warned

lol...the website will obviously self promote their students, so it would be surprising for them NOT to put some type of positive advertisements about their programs on their website. The graduation to jobs ratio was 98 percent..then it slowly started to drop..and drop. There is a career services and alumni coordinator there who keeps track of students graduating compare to jobs that are obtained (they call you within 6 months..half the students in my class never received this "call"), while she was helping us with our resumes, she was telling students that she can omit students and rates from the stats depending on "circumstances" so you never actually know what is factual and what is not. Stenberg does not seem better on paper...i work with RPNs from fraser health and vch, they all avoid stenberg because the educational component is self taught and nowhere near what you would receive from douglas..in comparison..douglas offers a bachelors of science degree in pnursing because there is research intensive courses that prepare you to work in research positions in the field of p nursing..kwantlen only offers a b. of p nursing because it is more pragmatic and practical, stenberg only transfers to kwantlen because of this..and the fact that the dean for stenbergs p nursing program WORKS at kwantlen (corruption if you ask me). stenberg is NOT A COLLEGE. it is an institution regulated by PCTIA (private career training institution) which means it is a FOR PROFIT training institution that mainly prepares people for career specific paths..pctia is not a government body, so they have no say in what quality of education is being delivered...only the provincial government has that authority to assign a college or institution with EQA (to date, there is only one private institution or "college" in BC with EQA status and that is the adler school of professional psychology). whatever you do, just be cautious, 2 years may sound like a short amount of time, but the entire course is self taught, and the instructors are garbage...google jon cutcliffe...he was a stenberg employee for the RPN program and quit his job/has a lawsuit against stenberg for them trying to force him to perform and teach stuff that is outside of an RPN's scope of practice:

Texas man sues Canadian college for breach of contract - Southeast Texas RecordSoutheast Texas Record

quality of education is ****..ive been there, so has everyone i know, and they all regretted it. do what you want but as i said before, youve been warned

I believe you. Especially since I have asked people that are RPN's about Stenberg. They told me the same thing that the schools has problems.

WOW! this is absolutely crazy. Yeah haha I don't think I will enter Stenberg especially after studying at Kwantlen and especially after doing research.

I would feel very angry, it would hit me quite hard after studying a criminology associates degree to get into stenberg and spend more money and be dealing with this stuff.

Douglas College would be the way to go for me or even Kwantlen, but not for commuting purposes since I believe they offer the program in langley way too far for me.

HOLY! thanks for the warning.