State license that allows you to work in California

Silverdragon102, BSN · Aug 2, 2011

Going to another state to meet licensure when deficient for another state may not work when it comes to endorsing license and what is deficient for one state may be deficient for another. CA do their own assessments. NCLEX is a national exam

iamnomad · Aug 2, 2011

i'm just wondering what school you attended and why you have a deficiency in Psyche nursing.

But just to answer the general question, if you are licensed in ANY of the states, you should be okay endorsing it to another.

BUT, you have to know that it's not always the case. And your situation maybe this case. Majority of the states require a credential evaluation from CGFNS, and its basically an assessment of your nursing credentials if its comparable to US standard. It's US standard, not standard. So if it's not acceptable as a US standard, then it's not acceptable to ANY state.

AND also, you have to understand that eligibility or registration as an RN in one state doesn't guarantee you registration in another. California BRN, in your case, has the right to deny your application for the same reason they did in the first place.

I guess the only way to find out is to apply on one state and apply for a CES. Or do what California BRN instructed you to do.

bsnwnab · Aug 2, 2011

HELLO
I'm a graduate from the Philippines, and I'm planning to take the NCLEX here in California.
But the Cali Board of Registered Nursing said that I'm not ineligible to take NCLEX RN because I have a deficiency in my Psychiatric Nursing units. And the solution is for me to enroll to a nursing program here in California.

Are they asking you to enroll only in Psychiatric Nursing in a Nursing Program? How is that possible? I thought I read somewhere that the Board will tell you where to do clinical hours to meet your deficient hours.

Advanced Practice Columnist / Guide · Aug 3, 2011

Are they asking you to enroll only in Psychiatric Nursing in a Nursing Program? How is that possible? I thought I read somewhere that the Board will tell you where to do clinical hours to meet your deficient hours.

California does its own evaluation of all licensure applicants from international nursing programs. They do not rely on CES though they would accept it if you have it. The official form is available online in the board's website. It specifically asks for theory and clinical hours spent on Anatomy & Physiology, Medical Nursing, Surgical Nursing, Obstetrical Nursing, Pediatric Nursing, and Psychiatric Nursing. I am assuming that the OP's international program did not meet the required hours for either theory or clinical or both in Psychiatric Nursing, hence, the recommendation to make up the hours in a California-approved nursing program. This is a relatively new development within the state for some Philippine-trained nurses. Numerous nurses in practice in California received their BSN in the Philippines (including myself) and had no problems with hours in the past.

To the OP, the only way you can get a license in California is if you meet the required hours. Even if you get licensed in another state and try to endorse to California, the board will ask for the breakdown of your educational program once again and if it's deficient, they will still ask for you to make up the hours. That's just how it is.

starleviosa · Aug 3, 2011

i'm just wondering what school you attended and why you have a deficiency in Psyche nursing.
But just to answer the general question, if you are licensed in ANY of the states, you should be okay endorsing it to another.
BUT, you have to know that it's not always the case. And your situation maybe this case. Majority of the states require a credential evaluation from CGFNS, and its basically an assessment of your nursing credentials if its comparable to US standard. It's US standard, not standard. So if it's not acceptable as a US standard, then it's not acceptable to ANY state.
AND also, you have to understand that eligibility or registration as an RN in one state doesn't guarantee you registration in another. California BRN, in your case, has the right to deny your application for the same reason they did in the first place.
I guess the only way to find out is to apply on one state and apply for a CES. Or do what California BRN instructed you to do.

I went to Manila Doctors College, the nursing school for Manila Doctors Hospital.

The CA board of registered nursing said I have a deficiency in Psychiatric Nursing Theory and Clinical Exposure.

starleviosa · Aug 3, 2011

California does its own evaluation of all licensure applicants from international nursing programs. They do not rely on CES though they would accept it if you have it. The official form is available online in the board's website. It specifically asks for theory and clinical hours spent on Anatomy & Physiology, Medical Nursing, Surgical Nursing, Obstetrical Nursing, Pediatric Nursing, and Psychiatric Nursing. I am assuming that the OP's international program did not meet the required hours for either theory or clinical or both in Psychiatric Nursing, hence, the recommendation to make up the hours in a California-approved nursing program. This is a relatively new development within the state for some Philippine-trained nurses. Numerous nurses in practice in California received their BSN in the Philippines (including myself) and had no problems with hours in the past.
To the OP, the only way you can get a license in California is if you meet the required hours. Even if you get licensed in another state and try to endorse to California, the board will ask for the breakdown of your educational program once again and if it's deficient, they will still ask for you to make up the hours. That's just how it is.

Thank you so much for your advise. I understand it much better now. Ive heard the standards for the California BRN has been updated this year. The higher batches from my school didn't have a problem, its only happening to us new grads.

RLuiii · Aug 16, 2011

Hi offleemits,

I have the same problem as yours.. exactly the same.. I'm also from Philippines and I graduated April of 2010.. I just received the letter this August.. and its quite stressful.. What did you do regarding your application? Help

starleviosa · Aug 17, 2011

Hi offleemits,
I have the same problem as yours.. exactly the same.. I'm also from Philippines and I graduated April of 2010.. I just received the letter this August.. and its quite stressful.. What did you do regarding your application? Help

hello there from what school are you? my problems are already fixed and i have scheduled my exam on the 27th of september already.

bsnwnab · Aug 17, 2011

hello there from what school are you? my problems are already fixed and i have scheduled my exam on the 27th of september already.

good for you. how were you able to fix the problem?

RLuiii · Aug 17, 2011

hello there from what school are you? my problems are already fixed and i have scheduled my exam on the 27th of september already.

Im from Kester grant College, its just a new school.. wow that's great how did you fix your problem.. im losing hope.. but when you said that you already fixed it.. i suddenly became happy and hoping that this can be fixed.. what did you do?..

starleviosa · Aug 18, 2011

good for you. how were you able to fix the problem?

i just called brn and talked to my evaluator and complained and that's it.