South university online graduate school of nursing (msn family nurse practitioner)

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Purpose of this Post:

As a licensed RN in the State of Ohio, I have decided to go back to school for my MSN. I want to become a Family Nurse Practitioner. In researching different schools, I have applied for both private, not-for-profit, and for-profit schools. In the end, I chose South University (located in Savannah, Georgia) based solely on the perception that it will accommodate my lifestyle/responsibilities.

AllNurses.com is an excellent site for nurses to network. That is why I chose this forum to discuss my educational experiences with South University. For the next 2 years or so, I will be updating weekly/biweekly on my experiences in South University's Online Graduate Nursing Program. As a graduate nursing student, I want to give other nurses a real idea of what they are signing up for with this university.

Additional Details:

Start Date: June 2nd, 2014

Program: Online Graduate Nursing Program

Track: Family Nurse Practitioner

As I was researching different graduate nursing programs I had specific criteria in mind.

1. It had to be accredited (and it is by the CCNE).

2. It had to be a flexible, online program (and it is).

3. It had to accept all licensed nurses in good standing, regardless of the amount of experience they have (and it does).

4. It had to be affordable/doable. For me, I refused to pay more than $35,000 for a program. The Family Nurse Practitioner program currently costs ($30,833).

5. It had to legitimately educate me to operate within my scope of practice, ethically and efficiently.

6. It had to be well-respected, at least insofar as future employers (or even your state board of nursing) do not laugh/roll their eyes when they hear where you graduated from.

Additional Factors To Take Into Consideration:

1. South University currently has some very bad reviews on consumeraffairs.com and onlinedegreereviews.org.

2. "For Profit" schools have a universally bad reputation as scam schools. "Buyer beware."

Disclaimer:

Before I go any further, I'd like to reinforce the fact that my opinions are my own and are not meant to reflect poorly on anyone. I will try to be as objective as possible in reviewing the school and the education I receive. No names will be mentioned, but I will discuss specific classes to give the reader as much information as possible.

Please keep in mind that admissions requirements, classes, tuition, and circumstances are relative to my situation. They will likely change over time, so I'm not entirely too sure how applicable any of this will be to others.

But for what it's worth, I'd like to give everyone an insiders look at a "For Profit," online graduate school of nursing.

Admissions Review:

Admissions Requirements


    [*=2]GPA of 3.0 or Higher
    [*=2]Unrestricted, Valid RN License in Resident State
    [*=2]Undergraduate Statistics and Nursing Research Class
    [*=2]3 Professional References (One Must Be an MSN Prepared Nurse)
    [*=2]Goal Statement
    [*=2]Transcripts from all universities you have ever attended
    [*=2]Resume or Curriculum Vitae.

Paper-Work to Be Aware of:


    [*=2]Online Application Form
    [*=2]Transcript Request Form
    [*=2]Goal Statement (Information about yourself as a professional, as long as what program you are applying for and what you hope to do with the degree. Why do you want to become a nurse practitioner? How will it impact your life?)
    [*=2]3 Professional References
    [*=2]Curriculum Vitae or Resume
    [*=2]Syllabus and Course Catalog (with web address) of both of your undergraduate Statistics and Nursing Research Class
    [*=2]Practicum/Clinical Site Form: This school wants you to identify 5 potential clinical sites for each of five clinical courses. They are not contracts and are not set in stone. They are merely there to provide incentive for RNs to begin looking independently.
    [*=2]FAFSA (Unless you are an international student.)
    [*=2]Student Loan Paperwork (If you are like me and will rely upon an unsubsidized student loan with a fixed interest rate).

Orientation to Online Classrooms:

If accepted into this program you must complete the online orientation class. It prepares you for where to find student resources (such as an online library which has most of your text-books), documents (lectures/powerpoints), student email, and technical support. It teaches you where your grades are stored and what will be expected of you in classes. To be seen as having good attendance/participation you are expected to contribute 4 times a week on 4 separate days. Contribution is defined as posting an assignment in the discussion, turning in an assignment, posting a question for the professor, and etc. If you do not make at least 2 contributions for 2 consecutive weeks, admissions will automatically boot you from the program.

Additionally, a student cannot score below 80% in any given class, without being on disqualified from the program. So, in other words, no Cs allowed.

As long as a student plays by these rules and actually puts forth effort (taking the program seriously), it seems that all will be well.

Another aspect of online education you should be aware of is that many essays and papers that will be written are going to be screened by anti-plagiarism software.

Admissions Review:

My admissions representative was outstanding and kept in touch with me every other day or via email. If she didn't have the answer to one of my questions, she would get back to me promptly. She was very patient but also helped motivate me to get things in ASAP so that I could begin in June. I finished Applying two and a half weeks before June 2nd and was around 10 days after I applied (just in time). June 2nd isn't a very popular start date. If you are applying in the Spring or Summer, keep in mind that you will face a lot more competition.

Your Admissions representative will stay in contact with you for the duration of your education.

Academic Counselor Review:

My academic adviser was very knowledgeable and helpful. I have had better luck contacting him via email than through phone, but it seems like that is the standard in an online environment. Like my Admissions rep, he has always been on time telephone appointments. He explained that his role was to register you for the correct classes and notify you asap when you are not meeting attendance/participation/grade requirements to stay in the program. He is also the middle-man between me and my professors. If for whatever reason, an instructor is not responding to me within the 24hrs time-frame they have to reply, I can call up my academic adviser. (It's 24hrs on a week-day and 48hrs on a holiday/weekend).

The program is typically one class at a time with classes ranging from 5 to 11.5 weeks.

My Academic Counselor told me that I could double up on my classes, as long as I had financial aid approve of it and the ability to succeed. After convincing him and being cleared by financial aid (I would just take out more of my loan than previously planned upon), I was rescheduled. So, I have officially doubled up the first two classes of the program, Role of the Advanced Practice Nurse and Advanced Pathophysiology.

Then I will take Advanced Theoretical Perspectives for Nursing on its own.

After that, I will double up Nursing Research Methods (an 11 week class) with Advanced Nursing Practice I and II.

Advanced health & Physical Assessment is the first course with a clinical requirement (80hrs). Every class after that (except Graduate Project in Nursing) has a clinical requirement of 180hrs.

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Tuition:

The first year of loans period I will be paying for range from 06/02/14 to 01/26/14 and will cost me approximately $16,530. I do not yet know what the rest of my classes from 04/13/15-11/30/15 will cost.

Okay that is all for now! Please post questions you have and I will do my best to answer them!!

Which classes should I double up on.

I am scheduled to start the online FNP program at SU in July. Does anyone have any pointers or help they could give me? I am very nervous after reading so many negative reviews! It seems everyone on this thread has had a great experience though!!

Hi Lindsay - I too am scheduled to start AGNP in July. I was originally scheduled to start in May but they pushed back my start date due to "not enough staff" then I was told it was because "they were revamping the program". Either way, I just need to get started! Good luck!

Hey Rod Male Nurse BSN,

I am in NP 2 and Research. Boy am I procrastinating on my papers. I cannot wait for papers to be over with. Did you take pharmacology by itself? I think my advisor said it has be to by itself before you enter Health Assessment with clinical. How do you find a preceptor? I work in a hospital, do I just call a doctor's office and ask directly? Is there any paper work involved? I cannot wait to be working hands on with the patients. So clinical are just one by one till we graduate right? Are you done the program yet? Good luck with boards!

Hello all! I am supposed to be starting the program next month and I just wanted to check in and see how things were going with folks. Also, since we have to find out own clinical sites, I was wondering, do they have to be outpatient settings or can they be inpatient as well? Specialty or primary care? Anyone know? Thanks, Val

Specializes in GENERAL.

This is the most unbelievable propaganda I have heard in a while. During the time the OP talks about she not once mentioned that Education Management Corporation the corporate parent of South University was being sued by the Department of Education for false claims in the sum of 11billion dollars. Look it up. They are as deceptive and wiley as you can get. Hopefully they will die the slow death they deserve as they have financially ruined many earnest student's financial lives.

One more thing. Next time get a non-lawyer to write the next tome of lies. This one is too obviously planted. Nursing students please be careful with all for-profit loan mills before you make a deal with this corporate devil.

If you are enrolled in South's program for MSN. You can double up on classes up till NP 2. It is doable a long as you keep up with the assignments. It is mostly papers and discussion boards. Once or twice in a class there is an exam. Good luck!

Specializes in ORTHO, PCU, ED.

I am starting SUs FNP program in October! After reading all this negativity yikes...hope I'm not making the wrong decision. Lord help.

Specializes in GENERAL.
I am starting SUs FNP program in October! After reading all this negativity yikes...hope I'm not making the wrong decision. Lord help.

Please! Please! Please! Do not go to South. I WANT you to go to NP school. But there are many other alternatives than this Wall Street owned ( and you know how much they care nursing education) spider to the fly loan mill. Read: "DOJ sues EDMC for false claims Re: student recruitment." You must look this up. This case goes to the core of what they are all about. *By the way South U online 2% graduation rate. Look it up!

Why do I say this? Among other things, they have no standards, no GED required, no pre-admission professional department interviews and their tuition is no bargain. These are red flags and there are many if you investigate. They have pitifully low, and I mean very low, graduation and retention rates. Look at *collegescorecard.edu.gov. This site does not evaluate their graduate school graduation and retention rates (that you won't find, and they won't tell you), but if you look at their undergrad stats you can come to a reasonable conclusion that they are not in the business of education but in finding the most direct route to your student loan Title IV or post 9/11 VA or reimbursement benefits. *For-profits engaged in a protracted legal battle to have this site suppressed.

By the way, they are in dire financial straits as are most for-profit schools. They can and will and without warning shutter their schools and leave you stranded owing thousands in student loans and with no degree. This happened in 2015 in the Corinthian college debacle. By the way the Department of Education really doesn't care.

If you want the real low-down on what South U, owned by The Educational Management Corporation, (the name alone should make you run for the hills), go to "The Layoff.Com" and look-up EDMC. You will get a real education regarding for-profits; just don't be put off by all the expletives, name calling, and general vitriol going on between those who have been deceived and defrauded and those who are on the South (EDMC) payroll.

I find it more than coincidental that as long as this OP's post has been up, only one other person before myself had anything even mildly substantive to say about South U one way or the other. This tells me the schills are at play. Look folks, comments like "it's doable" "almost done" and "I graduated" don't tell you a thing. You must look at the hard facts for yourself to have no regrets. No, all schools are not the same.

I have 30 years of experience in nursing. I consider myself well informed when it comes to nursing education. I am on nobody's payroll, I have no ax to grind against the for-profits that I can not reasonably through thorough documentation substantiate . I am your advocate! Contact me and I will tell you more. If not, Do your homework. Lots of very bad actors in education, not like it used to be in any way. You know, if they make it too easy, as South U does, that's the biggest RED LIGHT there is my colleagues. Good luck in all your endeavours and keep your eyes open. And remember to be your own best friend. Especially when there are thousands of dollars and years of your precious life on the line.

Specializes in ORTHO, PCU, ED.
Please! Please! Please! Do not go to South. I WANT you to go to NP school. But there are many other alternatives than this Wall Street owned ( and you know how much they care nursing education) spider to the fly loan mill. Read: "DOJ sues EDMC for false claims Re: student recruitment." You must look this up. This case goes to the core of what they are all about. *By the way South U online 2% graduation rate. Look it up!

Why do I say this? Among other things, they have no standards, no GED required, no pre-admission professional department interviews and their tuition is no bargain. These are red flags and there are many if you investigate. They have pitifully low, and I mean very low, graduation and retention rates. Look at *collegescorecard.edu.gov. This site does not evaluate their graduate school graduation and retention rates (that you won't find, and they won't tell you), but if you look at their undergrad stats you can come to a reasonable conclusion that they are not in the business of education but in finding the most direct route to your student loan Title IV or post 9/11 VA or reimbursement benefits. *For-profits engaged in a protracted legal battle to have this site suppressed.

By the way, they are in dire financial straits as are most for-profit schools. They can and will and without warning shutter their schools and leave you stranded owing thousands in student loans and with no degree. This happened in 2015 in the Corinthian college debacle. By the way the Department of Education really doesn't care.

If you want the real low-down on what South U, owned by The Educational Management Corporation, (the name alone should make you run for the hills), go to "The Layoff.Com" and look-up EDMC. You will get a real education regarding for-profits; just don't be put off by all the expletives, name calling, and general vitriol going on between those who have been deceived and defrauded and those who are on the South (EDMC) payroll.

I find it more than coincidental that as long as this OP's post has been up, only one other person before myself had anything even mildly substantive to say about South U one way or the other. This tells me the schills are at play. Look folks, comments like "it's doable" "almost done" and "I graduated" don't tell you a thing. You must look at the hard facts for yourself to have no regrets. No, all schools are not the same.

I have 30 years of experience in nursing. I consider myself well informed when it comes to nursing education. I am on nobody's payroll, I have no ax to grind against the for-profits that I can not reasonably through thorough documentation substantiate . I am your advocate! Contact me and I will tell you more. If not, Do your homework. Lots of very bad actors in education, not like it used to be in any way. You know, if they make it too easy, as South U does, that's the biggest RED LIGHT there is my colleagues. Good luck in all your endeavours and keep your eyes open. And remember to be your own best friend. Especially when there are thousands of dollars and years of your preciouS]

I have a hard time following your way if writing, but the thank you for your concern. I'll look into it.

Specializes in GENERAL.

If you have specific questions or need clarification please ask. I know that's a lot to absorb at one time but please beware of these wolfs in sheeps clothing.

Specializes in ER, Tele, Cardiac Cath Lab.
If you have specific questions or need clarification please ask. I know that's a lot to absorb at one time but please beware of these wolfs in sheeps clothing.

Thanks for your input. I will look into it. I'm finishing my MSN in nursing education in September and have been talking to South university regarding their FNP program.

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